No, not Adam, who last heard of was playing for Mumbai City.

This is Kian Le Fondre, his second cousin who it looks like we might have signed from Bolton. I think he's 16 but is listed by Bolton as a member of the first team squad,

Plenty of investment and input into our youth at the moment, all very positive.

Anyone know if he’s any good?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:47 pm

This is Kian Le Fondre, his second cousin who it looks like we might have signed from Bolton. I think he's 16 but is listed by Bolton as a member of the first team squad,

To be fair last season if you turned up at the Horwich bowl with a pair of boots you stood a chance of getting a game.....

Is he also a forward?

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:02 pm

Is he also a forward?

Midfielder from what I can find

Why's Karl Pilkington there?

That’s a name to evoke memories. Adam was a name often linked with us as we climbed the leagues. A little bustling forward who got his share of goals, Mainly for Bolton. If he’s a chip off the same block he’ll become a useful signing. Good luck Kian.

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:01 pm

To be fair last season if you turned up at the Horwich bowl with a pair of boots you stood a chance of getting a game.....

They were winning promotion last season

Goalscoring midfielder from what I can find. Made the first team bench last season in the EFL Trophy when he was 15 but didn't come on.

Good luck to the young man, I hope he has a great career ahead of him and it works out well for him with us.

This is the way forward!

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Why's Karl Pilkington there?

Really? Which one is Karl Pilkington?

Even without the previous owner keeping (mostly) the vault doors closed to fatten up the goose, this is the area we need to be better than most.
A good youth system is the only way a club our size can survive.

Always good to see a young prospect, and if Kian has a career as good or better than Adam he'll be faring well.

And youth development does seem to be an area we're making great strides in over the past few years. Long may that continue.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:47 pm

No, not Adam, who last heard of was playing for Mumbai City.

This is Kian Le Fondre, his second cousin who it looks like we might have signed from Bolton. I think he's 16 but is listed by Bolton as a member of the first team squad,


kian le fondre.jpg

Wow his uncle Defour's put some timber on

Do we pay any fees for these players? Or decent wages?

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:41 pm

Do we pay any fees for these players? Or decent wages?

Maybe. Somebody will know.

We've got a gap in our recruitment when it wasn't being done properly so it's a good idea to flex our financial muscle over clubs like Bolton who are in need of money but had better recruitment than us in years gone by.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:44 pm

Maybe. Somebody will know.

We've got a gap in our recruitment when it wasn't being done properly so it's a good idea to flex our financial muscle over clubs like Bolton who are in need of money but had better recruitment than us in years gone by.

Ten years?

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:30 pm

Ten years?

Don't know the details. It basically the time Howe was here + the remaining contract of the guy he appointed.

Sounds shocking from what I've heard but I know very little beyond that. Others who post here seem very well informed on how unacceptably shambolic it all got.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:30 pm

Ten years?

I think that went over some peoples heads!

Ahhh it's a 10 years ahead joke. Yup. Missed that.

No laughing matter though how bad our youth system was allowed to get.

Still, nice how everything turned out since all those years ago.

UTC

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:41 pm

Do we pay any fees for these players? Or decent wages?

We will have to pay a compensation fee to Bolton

burnley007 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:41 pm

Do we pay any fees for these players? Or decent wages?

Would imagine wages are pretty much equal across all the youth team players, only once they sign a professional deal will they start to vary.

In terms of fee it will depend on how long he's been at Bolton. Assuming he's been there a long time the fee we've had to pay would be £109,000* and then there'll be further payments for every 10 first team appearances he makes.

*Category 2 to Category 1 transfers (which Category 2 cannot reject) are £25,000 for every year of development between ages of 12-16 up to a maximum of 5 years plus £3,000 per year between the ages of 9-11 up to a maximum of 3 years.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:06 pm

We will have to pay a compensation fee to Bolton

I think Bolton must be nearly skint if they need to let a prospect like this lad appears to be, for just a 'Training fee'.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:06 pm

We will have to pay a compensation fee to Bolton

Am I right in thinking our Category One academy status allows us to make such signings, and for a set fee as well Tony ?

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:08 pm

Am I right in thinking our Category One academy status allows us to make such signings, and for a set fee as well Tony ?

I think Mattster has answered my question

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:08 pm

I think Bolton must be nearly skint if they need to let a prospect like this lad appears to be, for just a 'Training fee'.

They can't stop us. A few years back the Premier League teams railroaded this through with threats to withhold the solidarity payments from the Premier League to the Football League if they didn't agree with it.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:08 pm

I think Bolton must be nearly skint if they need to let a prospect like this lad appears to be, for just a 'Training fee'.

I doubt Bolton could have done much about it other than to ensure they get the training fee.

I don't believe any fee is due in this case.

Andingle wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:38 pm

I don't believe any fee is due in this case.

It was Marc Iles (Bolton News) who reported they were due a training compensation fee

Sounds like a bit of a melt

aggi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:17 pm

They can't stop us. A few years back the Premier League teams railroaded this through with threats to withhold the solidarity payments from the Premier League to the Football League if they didn't agree with it.

Think we had a thread about that?
We may have benefitted a little here, but what the PL did there was so wrong.

aggi wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:17 pm

They can't stop us. A few years back the Premier League teams railroaded this through with threats to withhold the solidarity payments from the Premier League to the Football League if they didn't agree with it.

Didn't know that. Typical bully boy tactics from the PL, who couldn't care less about the lower leagues.