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Batters now in cricket and not batsmen
Laws of the game changed with the batsman changed to batter and batsmen to batters
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Re: Batters now in cricket and not batsmen
That's all well and good , but what are they going to do to describe someone who bats for both sides!?
(Please take this in the spirit in which its intended)
(Please take this in the spirit in which its intended)
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Makes sense. Wish they’d get rid of actress and waitress, you don’t call a female accountant an accountress do you!
Edit, not sure who “they” are but you get my point.
Edit, not sure who “they” are but you get my point.
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Maybe this is why they've stopped putting a 3rd man in when fielding? 3rd person? 3rd?
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So my fish gets dipped into a cricketer on Friday. Yuk!
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Is an over where no runs are scored still referred to as a maiden?
If so, for how much longer?
If so, for how much longer?
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They will start calling a Six a home run nextClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:29 pmLaws of the game changed with the batsman changed to batter and batsmen to batters
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You could call that a Sixist remark
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Now to be referred to as a non-gender specific virgin over
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They were going to call Bowlers ... "Pitchers" but that rumour didn't hold water
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Poured scorn on that one
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Can you still say the bowlers holding the batters willy upthecolne
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What about when a night watchman comes in to be a batter.
Lighthouse keeper might be ok.
Lighthouse keeper might be ok.
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What about Jimmy Anderson's swinging balls?
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Because waitress and actress are historic terms gthat have typically been gender specific, accountant is an actual profession that has never been gender specific....claret2018 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:44 pmMakes sense. Wish they’d get rid of actress and waitress, you don’t call a female accountant an accountress do you!
Edit, not sure who “they” are but you get my point.
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Why ? Does this REALLY bother you ? Genuinely can't understand what the problem is. Also don't see what the problem is with batsmen and batswomen and think "batter" sounds horribly baseballish.claret2018 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:44 pmMakes sense. Wish they’d get rid of actress and waitress, you don’t call a female accountant an accountress do you!
Edit, not sure who “they” are but you get my point.
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What do we call a ladybird or a Hunntsman spider nowadays?
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Slip....sexist ladies clothing
Third man......sexist
Fine leg....sexist some blokes refer to women's legs as fine.
Square leg...prejudice to people with peripheral endema.
Third man......sexist
Fine leg....sexist some blokes refer to women's legs as fine.
Square leg...prejudice to people with peripheral endema.
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Or a "Daddy Longlegs" or "Black Widow"Guller Bull wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:19 pmWhat do we call a ladybird or a Hunntsman spider nowadays?
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“Because that’s the way its always been” is the poorest of reasons to do something illogical.Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:32 pmWhy ? Does this REALLY bother you ? Genuinely can't understand what the problem is. Also don't see what the problem is with batsmen and batswomen and think "batter" sounds horribly baseballish.
It doesn’t bother me it just doesn’t make any sense.
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You’ll get used to it. After all we have never had bowlmen, but if we had and then it was deemed sexist and changed to bowler you’d probably have a similar reaction.Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:32 pmWhy ? Does this REALLY bother you ? Genuinely can't understand what the problem is. Also don't see what the problem is with batsmen and batswomen and think "batter" sounds horribly baseballish.
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Sorry but what a load of cr*pClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:29 pmLaws of the game changed with the batsman changed to batter and batsmen to batters
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When did wicketkeepman get changed?
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Women are from now on to be known as wo
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Biggest job creation scheme of the century. ‘Man’ was interchangeable as in human… until the PR companies saw an opportunity. Humus for human?
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Why can’t a female ‘batter’ in women’s cricket just be called a batswoman. It’s all getting a bit silly.
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Batpeople.
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Why on earth would we remove a feature of language that allows us to be easily more precise?claret2018 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:44 pmMakes sense. Wish they’d get rid of actress and waitress, you don’t call a female accountant an accountress do you!
Edit, not sure who “they” are but you get my point.
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I’m sure they can, can’t they? From what the OP says the laws have just been reworded to apply to both genders. It could get a bit longwinded if they read; Law 749 - the batsman or batswoman…
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The change has been heralded by those running the women's game as making the sport "more inclusive" especially at a junior level where both boys and girls play in the same team. They feel a girl might be uncomfortable being referred to as a batsman.
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Of course it makes sense. Why should it be wrong to differentiate? Why is it deemed offensive? Taking offence has become so fashionable now it is laughable. People should be proud of what they are, not be offended by people referring to it.claret2018 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:37 pm“Because that’s the way its always been” is the poorest of reasons to do something illogical.
It doesn’t bother me it just doesn’t make any sense.
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Sounds like they’ve probably got a valid point.kentonclaret wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pmThe change has been heralded by those running the women's game as making the sport "more inclusive" especially at a junior level where both boys and girls play in the same team. They feel a girl might be uncomfortable being referred to as a batsman.
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"More inclusive"
When the men and women start playing each other, then it will have relevance.
Until then it's just more sandal wearing nonsense.
When the men and women start playing each other, then it will have relevance.
Until then it's just more sandal wearing nonsense.
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But the rules apply to both men and women's cricket?Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:56 pm"More inclusive"
When the men and women start playing each other, then it will have relevance.
Until then it's just more sandal wearing nonsense.
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Batswoman then
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Well that isn't going to happenBin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:56 pm"More inclusive"
When the men and women start playing each other, then it will have relevance.
Until then it's just more sandal wearing nonsense.
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I don't really care, I will still call them a Batslady.milkcrate_mosh wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:57 pmBut the rules apply to both men and women's cricket?
Which goes for Dom Sibley as well.
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What does Robin call his crime fighting partner now?
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Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:56 pm"More inclusive"
When the men and women start playing each other, then it will have relevance.
Until then it's just more sandal wearing nonsense.
I think that the "more inclusive" comment was intended for junior level where mixed teams play the sport.
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its got way beyond a joke, who exactly are these clowns that dictate all these changes to how we refer to things?
**** the lot of 'em. If people just ignore these ideas and continue as we were, there's nothing they can do.
**** the lot of 'em. If people just ignore these ideas and continue as we were, there's nothing they can do.
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Fair enough.kentonclaret wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:20 pmI think that the "more inclusive" comment was intended for junior level where mixed teams play the sport.
Although when their brains develop and they mature, I wonder if they'll notice the difference between men and women in sport.
Like why nondescript batter A has to have a shorter boundary than nondescript batter B.
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So because women’s cricket may have shorter boundaries than some men’s cricket they shouldn’t be referred to by the same terminology in the laws of the game? Good logic.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:44 pmFair enough.
Although when their brains develop and they mature, I wonder if they'll notice the difference between men and women in sport.
Like why nondescript batter A has to have a shorter boundary than nondescript batter B.
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Yes that's clearly what I said, to a blind man on a galloping horse. Good grief.
Looks like you're after one of your late night sparring encounters, well you'll just have to do it with someone else I'm afraid.
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Not at all champ, I'm off to bed with a book. Just wanted to let you know that your point was nonsensical.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:55 pmYes that's clearly what I said, to a blind man on a galloping horse. Good grief.
Looks like you're after one of your late night sparring encounters, well you'll just have to do it with someone else I'm afraid.
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I'll settle for "willow operative"
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Where will it end?......Women will have to open doors for blokes! Eh, bloody hell.claret2018 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:44 pmMakes sense. Wish they’d get rid of actress and waitress, you don’t call a female accountant an accountress do you!
Edit, not sure who “they” are but you get my point.
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I remember in the 70s that the great Tom Graveney always used the term ‘batters’.
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Can we not just describe them as batsman and 6 or 7 people who follow the women's game choose their own definition?
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I played Cricket for nearly 30 years.
Batter was the only terminology I ever used in relation to batting. No idea what the fuss is about.
Batter
Bowler
Keeper
Fielder.
Couldn’t be more straightforward.
Batter was the only terminology I ever used in relation to batting. No idea what the fuss is about.
Batter
Bowler
Keeper
Fielder.
Couldn’t be more straightforward.
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