AJ v Usyk

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:18 pm

AJ looked shocked at the announcement of the winner :shock:

He won’t be when he watches it back
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by diamondpocket » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:20 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:17 pm
http://thecrackstreams.net/title-game/a ... tream/5953

Works well. Just make sure you have pop-up blocker and ad blocker extensions running.
Thanks Mik, quality stream. Way too conservative Joshua, didn't do anywhere near enough to win a fight, Usyk much more courageous and on the front foot, he deserved the win.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:24 pm

I watched it on DAZN in German (beautiful language but alas I know very few words) so I watched it without the hype or biased commentary.

To me it was obvious Joshua was miles behind after 6 rounds let alone exiting the 9 round. Yet his corner (caught live on tv) were telling him to stay behind the jab. Bizarre imo because at that stage you need a count as a minimum to get back in the fight.

Now you might not like Fury but that lad wears these two as a pair of earrings imo

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:24 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:18 pm
AJ looked shocked at the announcement of the winner :shock:

He won’t be when he watches it back
It’s what happens when you’ve been punched for 12 rounds, you actually remember very little :lol:
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:32 pm

Ha ha, Josh the gobshite has been slapped.

Boxers are difficult to like at the best of times, but when you have a gobshite who can't back it up, it's incredibly funny.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:34 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:32 pm
Ha ha, Josh the gobshite has been slapped.

Boxers are difficult to like at the best of times, but when you have a gobshite who can't back it up, it's incredibly funny.
How is he a gob shite? I’ve never understood the animosity.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by HunterST_BFC » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:38 pm

Another wait for a title at Spurs
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Inchy » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:50 pm

Fury would clearly paste AJ.

Not going to happen now though. Rematch between these two, likely same result and AJ will retire to his millions.

AJ seems to lose heart very quickly when the fight doesn’t go his way. Could never imagine him getting up from a Wilder knock down
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:56 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:34 pm
How is he a gob shite? I’ve never understood the animosity.
He's basically said before that Fury is running scared.

Fury is the ultimate gobshite, but he seems to get things done (however boring it is).

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by CFS » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:42 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:56 pm
He's basically said before that Fury is running scared.

Fury is the ultimate gobshite, but he seems to get things done (however boring it is).
Might be true might not be but don't get it twisted it was AJ pushing for the fury fight whether he thinks he can win is a different story.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by diamondpocket » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:21 am

He's lost the ambition and drive, it's just a professional job for him now, back to the grind. Listen to the interview afterwards. He doesn't wanna be the best but just wants to fight the best even if he loses. All this 'I'm blessed to be here,religious spouting, boxing is all a circus', has made him lose his appetite to be Number 1, champion of the world. a Shame, he could have been one of the British greats.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:28 am

Seems a strange game plan, when the only real thing you have going for you is your power and you don't use it.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by gavster » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:30 am

I was on the fence for a bit. No way on earth after that display goes AJ get a glove on Fury. Wider ain’t gun shy and has punch so may get fury but Joshua would be insane to take a fury fight. He seems to have lost his swagger or mojo. Over trained and not willing to open up. Bizzare

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:30 am

AJ ticks so many boxes , superbly naturally gifted conditioned athlete , Olympian gold ,trains like a demon , excellent technical skills , great defence , big ,strong , brave , looks after himself etc . But just lacks that “ eye of the tiger” ultra killer instinct . No shame losing to Usyk ,who ,if he was a natural heavy would be a living legend .

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by burnleymik » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:31 am

Usyk was on another level to Joshua. Not sure there is anyone in boxing in this moment that can live with him. Incredible fighter.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by kazza » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:32 am

So that's AJ vs Fury out the window now.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Shaggy » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:59 am

Was very likely to happen. AJ is way too static and needs to set himself to throw his power shots, Usyk just kept that lead foot on the outside and kept Joshua turning, making him have to reset all night long. Rematch will go along the same lines. Joshua is too slow and lumbering to get to Usyk and he doesn’t have an inside game either.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Caballo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:14 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:31 am
Usyk was on another level to Joshua. Not sure there is anyone in boxing in this moment that can live with him. Incredible fighter.
Disagree, think fury comfortably out points him.
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by CFS » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:52 pm

Half the people hating on him are the ones whose wives have probably mentioned how good he looks and they feel small and insecure loool.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Gp8419 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:54 pm

Tend to agree fury is such a clever fighter,he will lean all over him when they hold and use his size and weight advantage.Lovely boxer is usyk but fury is the no 1 always as been.I’ve never over liked Joshua anyway but when he said all that about supporting’ black ‘ businesses he lost any respect I had for him also.I am not one for getting into a race war but if a white fella said it there would be riots.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by diamondpocket » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:09 pm

really striking was the interview after with Usyk. I'm sure the adrenaline was kicking in after winning but he was so calm & relaxed and didn't look like he'd be in a 12 rounder with a heavyweight. Think he could have gone a lot harder if he had had to. Had a few cuts but wasn't overly out of breath nor did he look knackered. He seems hard as nails.
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Murger » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:52 pm
Half the people hating on him are the ones whose wives have probably mentioned how good he looks and they feel small and insecure loool.
Hahahaha what?

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by burnleymik » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:39 pm

Caballo wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:14 pm
Disagree, think fury comfortably out points him.
Certainly think he will do a lot better than AJ, but Usyk looks outstanding.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:19 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:30 am
AJ ticks so many boxes , superbly naturally gifted conditioned athlete , Olympian gold ,trains like a demon , excellent technical skills , great defence , big ,strong , brave , looks after himself etc . But just lacks that “ eye of the tiger” ultra killer instinct . No shame losing to Usyk ,who ,if he was a natural heavy would be a living legend .
Agree

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:46 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:52 pm
Half the people hating on him are the ones whose wives have probably mentioned how good he looks and they feel small and insecure loool.
What a bizarre posting , are you on the substance affectionately known as “ coke” that seems to be the favoured livener in the CFS?

Ps I appreciate the aforementioned substance is about as much related to “ cocaine “ as Nick Pope is to The Pope
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by bobinho » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:05 pm

If there was another minute in that last round, it wouldn’t have needed the judges score cards.

Joshua looks a world beater when fighting much smaller, less talented men… when it gets ugly, and the opposition doesn’t fall over, his heart breaks. Both wilder and fury destroy him.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by CFS » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:57 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:46 pm
What a bizarre posting , are you on the substance affectionately known as “ coke” that seems to be the favoured livener in the CFS?

Ps I appreciate the aforementioned substance is about as much related to “ cocaine “ as Nick Pope is to The Pope
Sure thang

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by IanMcL » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:23 pm

Very odd that a huge man was dabbing about with a jab against a much smaller, 'over sized' fighter, who was smart and cagey

Joshua looked very pedestrian throughout.

The one thing Joshua had as advantage was size and punch power. He used neither, so paid the price and was made to look very average.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:16 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:23 pm
Very odd that a huge man was dabbing about with a jab against a much smaller, 'over sized' fighter, who was smart and cagey

Joshua looked very pedestrian throughout.

The one thing Joshua had as advantage was size and punch power. He used neither, so paid the price and was made to look very average.
He said in the post fight press conference that the plan was to outbox Usyk. How that was the plan against one of the most technically outstanding fighters on the planet is ridiculous. Worrying that Bellew and Chisora looked better against Usyk.

Needs to make the rematch a war and take it in to deep waters rather than trying to outbox for ego.
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by bobinho » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:02 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:16 pm
He said in the post fight press conference that the plan was to outbox Usyk. How that was the plan against one of the most technically outstanding fighters on the planet is ridiculous. Worrying that Bellew and Chisora looked better against Usyk.

Needs to make the rematch a war and take it in to deep waters rather than trying to outbox for ego.
We saw against Ruiz what happens when it gets to being toe to toe. If Joshua is sending his bombs and there’s not a lot being returned, he has a chance. As soon as it gets nasty, he very quickly gives up. I don’t want to suggest he has “bottle” issues, because getting into the ring to fight another man clearly suggests otherwise, but there is definitely an issue with him when it gets to that stage in the fight.

His fight plan and tactics were clearly wrong for Usyk, and I agree he should have mixed it up a little but maybe his team are aware of what is likely to happen should he get dragged into a war hence the display against usyk.
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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Caballo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:10 pm

Not quite sure which genius came up with the 'plan' to outbox Usyk, have they not watched any of his previous fights 🤔

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Damo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:38 pm

Robert McCracken was still telling him to get behind his jab in round 10
Absolute catastrophic tactics right from the start

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by Shaggy » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:22 pm

If Joshua went in there with the ear muffs on walking forward he would have been stopped. He doesn’t have the chin, stamina or heart to be a pressure fighter.

I think most people will agree now though that Fury would have dispatched of Joshua with ease. He’s a bigger stronger version of Usyk with proven durability and gas tank.

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Re: AJ v Usyk

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:08 am

Damo wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:38 pm
Robert McCracken was still telling him to get behind his jab in round 10
Absolute catastrophic tactics right from the start
His weird shouting of "here we go AJ" everytime he landed a jab on Usyk's arms was very odd.

On the fight, it was an enjoyable fight watching the non stop schooling he was given. Think it was Darren Barker who was ringside and said he had it level after 8 ? It was level once and that was at the first bell. Even good old Howard Foster managed to give it Usyk although only by 2 rounds.

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