Matej Vydra

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by RVclaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:40 am
In 64 appearances for us he has 6 goals and 5 assists. He’s a great player that stretches defences but I understand why Dyche doesn’t prefer him. He very rarely contributes to the team with goals or assists.

For the record I’m not suggesting we drop him, I am just suggesting that he needs to do more with his opportunities. He beat the last defender 3-4 times yesterday and fumbled the ball.
Again your ability to skew stats for your narrative is quite common. I’ll point out (again) that out of those 64 appearances probably more than half have been 5 minute substitute appearances when we are losing or hoofing.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:28 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 am
Again your ability to skew stats for your narrative is quite common. I’ll point out (again) that out of those 64 appearances probably more than half have been 5 minute substitute appearances when we are losing or hoofing.
No skewing anything, in the same time Barnes has made 78 appearances with plenty of them coming from the bench and with a big injury in the middle. He has 21 goals in that time period compared to Vydras 6.

No one ever seems to complain Vydras record but they are happy to call out Barnes.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by milkcrate_mosh » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:29 am

To be fair if you ignore their stats when we lose all our players look great.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:55 pm

Vydra was excellent yesterday but he remains a frustrating player. How often does he get goal side but get caught or outmuscled. At least he's getting in those positions and I'd have him in ahead of Barnes every time as we play far better football, just as we do with Jay. Needs to add some goals though.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:57 pm

He has the speed but not the physical strength so often muscled out by a canny defender.Having said that he made our second goal by his running and cross. Last week won a pen that should have been given. Barnes lack of speed would have achieved neither

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:01 pm

Not sure he does have the speed tbh. He's quicker than the other 3 forwards but still not particularly quick.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:57 pm
He has the speed but not the physical strength so often muscled out by a canny defender.Having said that he made our second goal by his running and cross. Last week won a pen that should have been given. Barnes lack of speed would have achieved neither
He’s quick but not rapid. Remember though yesterday he was caught by soyuncu, who as well as being an excellent defender, was recorded (if I’m not mistaken) as one of the fastest players in the league.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by NewClaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:22 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:30 am
We’ll see over the course of the season whether he genuinely just needed to get fitter again, or whether Barnes is preferred. If Vydra does leave in the summer, I don’t blame him. He’s a good little player and after 4 years here he has played 64 times. It’s sad to see his talent go to waste. He could have scored hatfuls in the championship or even a good number in the prem if he’d been given a good run in a side. Let’s hope he has a good season and Alan can work the magic in convincing him to stay.
Well if he doesn’t, he’s certainly going to have to fork out for another striker who can do the same!
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by IanMcL » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:33 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:01 pm
Not sure he does have the speed tbh. He's quicker than the other 3 forwards but still not particularly quick.
He is quick off the mark, which is what strikers need to be.

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