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Matej Vydra

Post by Paddy1882 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:36 pm

Any doubts that he’s the best partner for Chris wood surely gone today. Absolutely fantastic. Makes us play so much better. Well done vyds
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:37 pm

Absolutely!!!

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Post by Loyalclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:38 pm

The American commentators were very complimentary about him.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:38 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:36 pm
Any doubts that he’s the best partner for Chris wood surely gone today. Absolutely fantastic. Makes us play so much better. Well done vyds
He was excellent today, and I just hope his injury isn't too serious.

He starts up front with Wood and we score 2, that can't be a coincidence.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm

He’s a proper footballer is Vydra and I enjoy seeing proper footballers playing for us.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm

Its a shame we're likely to lose him next summer.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm

need him back next week, Barnes and Wood are pointless as a partnership and Jay has done his hamstring so it doesn't sound like he will be available
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Post by bfcjg » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:40 pm

Crucial he starts, hope it's just a knock.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by MACCA » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:41 pm

Played much better today as a team, but that's not surprising if you play your best footballers, it kind of helps.

But Vydra was excellent, movement off the ball caused them problems, and an assist too.
Hopefully will only get better the more minutes he gets in his legs.
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Post by jedi_master » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:44 pm

He was excellent today.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:46 pm

He was indeed good , though Wood has been truly awful

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Post by claret2018 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:46 pm

We play much better with him on the pitch, a lot more positive.

I love Barnes but he shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team these days.
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Post by kazza » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:48 pm

I hope he signs a new contract, but can't see that happening until SD goes back to what was proven to work last season, and that's start him whenever he's fit to start.
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Post by RVclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:55 pm

Completely changes how we play. Outstanding assist for our second.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:01 pm

He certainly played well today & caused Westergaard plenty of problems........which is why he assaulted him when he got the chance.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:03 pm

We are so clearly and obviously a better side with Vydra in every sense. Pace, attacking intent, pressing, technically.

I expect him to bag against Norwich next week.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:14 pm

kazza wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:48 pm
I hope he signs a new contract, but can't see that happening until SD goes back to what was proven to work last season, and that's start him whenever he's fit to start.
At this stage I suspect that he might be reluctant to re-sign for us irrespective of game time from here on. I accept that I/we are on the outside looking in, but he does seem to have had the rough end of the stick with regard to selection throughout his time with us, hardly the career boost that he'd hoped for and expected. Even if we now/finally make him a first choice starter ahead of Ashley Barnes and he performs well throughout the season, he'd most likely - particularly as a free agent - use that raised profile to secure himself a more lucrative contract elsewhere and can we really blame him? Having even this season been regarded by Sean Dyche as behind AB in his selection choice, he hardly owes us any favours, or indeed loyalty.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:19 pm

As well as him making Cornets goal, on a few occasions when he was running both their CBs ragged, he dug out a superb little flick right into Woody's path, but he didn't gather it. If he had he'd have been clear through on goal.
Thought that was his best ever game for us today.
He was excellent.
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Post by beddie » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:27 pm

Glad Vydra had a good game, it makes you wonder had he started against Arsenal whether the result would have been different. He needs to start games, his sharpness, fitness etc will improve. Dyche needs to give the lad a proper extended run, he’s way ahead of Barnes and Jay for me.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:29 pm

Thought he was superb today. Him and Cornet totally transformed the team.
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Post by willsclarets » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:30 pm

It's crazy he hasn't started before now.

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Post by Culmclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:31 pm

All I can say is that he must have been bloody awful in training to miss out to Ash

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Post by warksclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:32 pm

He was fantastic and a real threat to Vestergard and Soyunchu. A big influence on our result. PLays much better when he starts

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Post by what_no_pies » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:32 pm

I thought he was our best player by some distance today and that's often the case when he's been on the pitch over the past 12 months. Easy enough to excuse a lack of goals if he keeps that up as we look fairly toothless without him.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:44 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:31 pm
All I can say is that he must have been bloody awful in training to miss out to Ash
I couldn't care what they do in training, it's what they offer on the pitch that matters to me.

An assist for Vyds on Tuesday, and an assist today, Yes he could improve his goal ratio, but he offers so much to our play that for me he has to start.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Culmclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:46 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:44 pm
I couldn't care what they do in training, it's what they offer on the pitch that matters to me.

An assist for Vyds on Tuesday, and an assist today, Yes he could improve his goal ratio, but he offers so much to our play that for me he has to start.

It was a JOKE! OK not very funny I grant you!

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:49 pm

With him and cornet first half we looked dangerous every time we went forward. Even with the long hoofs up field we looked like scoring because those two have the pace to either push the Leicester defenders upfield or to break in behind themselves.
Get him a new contract because a player of his class should be worth millions so let’s not let him go for free.
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Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:50 pm

Played very well today. Dug out a great assist from persistence and strength too.

He won't score a lot but he does bring others into play and case problems when he is on his game

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:54 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:46 pm
It was a JOKE! OK not very funny I grant you!
Apologies I thought you were being serious. Went over my head I'm afraid.

My fear is if Jay & Vyds are injured, we'll be back to Barnes & Wood, and both are hopelessly out of form.

So let's cross our fingers that one or both of them is available for the Norwich game, which surely has to deliver our first win of the season doesn't it.

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Post by Stayingup » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:57 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Its a shame we're likely to lose him next summer.
Its also a shame he doesnt score very often. .

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:58 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:54 pm
Apologies I thought you were being serious. Went over my head I'm afraid.

My fear is if Jay & Vyds are injured, we'll be back to Barnes & Wood, and both are hopelessly out of form.

So let's cross our fingers that one or both of them is available for the Norwich game, which surely has to deliver our first win of the season doesn't it.
Massive game next week. As you say let’s hope Vydra is fit.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:59 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:57 pm
Its also a shame he doesnt score very often. .
He should score more he certainly has the chances. He offered more in the first ten minute alone than Barnes has offered all season.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:02 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:30 pm
It's crazy he hasn't started before now.
hasn't been fit

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Post by clive40golf » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:41 pm

His best ever game in a Burnley shirt. Made some fantastic runs and interlink play.outstanding!

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Post by Stayingup » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:42 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:59 pm
He should score more he certainly has the chances. He offered more in the first ten minute alone than Barnes has offered all season.
Yes Barnes has been great for us but maybe has run his race now. SD thinks he still offers somethimg though. It would interesting to see goals / games ratio of these two

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:55 pm

Totally agree with the OP and he was brilliant today.

Sorry there's a 'but', if Barnes or Rodders had fluffed their lines like when Vydra got in, then, well you know.

Can he get us the goals that we need over a season? I have my doubts.

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Post by Tw@ » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:07 pm

During the end of last season when we were under lockdown he played and we were doing really well.
He needs to start all games from now on as Barnes is sadly not the player he was.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:14 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:55 pm

Sorry there's a 'but', if Barnes or Rodders had fluffed their lines like when Vydra got in, then, well you know.
I don’t agree. He was being chased and hounded by a Leicester cb. There is simply no chance Barnes or Jay get into that position because they wouldn’t have got near it. The issue with Barnes is the lack of pace within the team when he plays. Stops our entire build up play from functioning as play breaks down so frequently. Vydra can break in behind as well as dropping in to link up play. Jay is similar but not quite as good as vyds for this. Jay get more goals though.
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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:22 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:14 pm
I don’t agree. He was being chased and hounded by a Leicester cb. There is simply no chance Barnes or Jay get into that position because they wouldn’t have got near it. The issue with Barnes is the lack of pace within the team when he plays. Stops our entire build up play from functioning as play breaks down so frequently. Vydra can break in behind as well as dropping in to link up play. Jay is similar but not quite as good as vyds for this. Jay get more goals though.
You've actually agreed with me. 8-)

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:26 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:22 pm
You've actually agreed with me. 8-)
Explain. I thought you meant jay or Barnes would get negative comments for messing up the chance Vydra did?

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Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:27 am

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:42 pm
Yes Barnes has been great for us but maybe has run his race now. SD thinks he still offers somethimg though. It would interesting to see goals / games ratio of these two
Dyche used the logic of "Barnes defends from the front" recently to justify his inclusion. But we continue to concede with him on the pitch. Surely a 5 man midfield would be better than Barnes. Either way, we've known for a while that the Wood/ Vydra partnership is when we create most chances, and if people didn't realise it last season, Barnes just isn't up to it. He's not been awful every game this season. But he's never been better than average, and he has been well worthy of a large number of those 3s on the player ratings.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:23 am

Worrying that we may lose our most dynamic striker next summer.

I’d say at this stage, securing his signature on an extension might be more important to us than Tarkys.

Alan’s going to need to throw some money at him & SD is going to need to start playing him every match as a guaranteed starter. As another poster has said, makes you wonder how many points we might have had he started the season.

I agree with most things Dyche does, but his arguments about “true fitness” just don’t wash with me. You get fit from playing games so we should’ve been playing our best players from the start and prioritising getting them fit.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:28 am

I love what Vydra brings to the team but he has got to start contributing. We are a team that doesn’t score a lot of goals, we can’t afford to carry a striker that contributes 1 goal every ten games.

Let’s hope the likes of cornet and McNeil can get him more involved this season.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:30 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:23 am
I agree with most things Dyche does, but his arguments about “true fitness” just don’t wash with me. You get fit from playing games so we should’ve been playing our best players from the start and prioritising getting them fit.
We’ll see over the course of the season whether he genuinely just needed to get fitter again, or whether Barnes is preferred. If Vydra does leave in the summer, I don’t blame him. He’s a good little player and after 4 years here he has played 64 times. It’s sad to see his talent go to waste. He could have scored hatfuls in the championship or even a good number in the prem if he’d been given a good run in a side. Let’s hope he has a good season and Alan can work the magic in convincing him to stay.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by RVclaret » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:34 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:28 am
I love what Vydra brings to the team but he has got to start contributing. We are a team that doesn’t score a lot of goals, we can’t afford to carry a striker that contributes 1 goal every ten games.

Let’s hope the likes of cornet and McNeil can get him more involved this season.
Contributing like his excellent assist yesterday? I showed you his ‘contributing’ stats from last season on another thread and he was leader when it comes to creating chances. If he can chip in with 8-10 goals for the season that’d be fine. We can usually rely on Wood getting 14 ish and it looks like Cornet is going to add a genuine goal threat.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:34 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:28 am
I love what Vydra brings to the team but he has got to start contributing. We are a team that doesn’t score a lot of goals, we can’t afford to carry a striker that contributes 1 goal every ten games.

Let’s hope the likes of cornet and McNeil can get him more involved this season.
Vydra is the only striker we have that tries to set other players up and it shows in the assists.
Of course he could do with scoring more but that applies to every player we have.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:40 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:34 am
Vydra is the only striker we have that tries to set other players up and it shows in the assists.
Of course he could do with scoring more but that applies to every player we have.
In 64 appearances for us he has 6 goals and 5 assists. He’s a great player that stretches defences but I understand why Dyche doesn’t prefer him. He very rarely contributes to the team with goals or assists.

For the record I’m not suggesting we drop him, I am just suggesting that he needs to do more with his opportunities. He beat the last defender 3-4 times yesterday and fumbled the ball.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:06 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:40 am
In 64 appearances for us he has 6 goals and 5 assists. He’s a great player that stretches defences but I understand why Dyche doesn’t prefer him. He very rarely contributes to the team with goals or assists.

For the record I’m not suggesting we drop him, I am just suggesting that he needs to do more with his opportunities. He beat the last defender 3-4 times yesterday and fumbled the ball.
The first one he had chance to shoot from 30 yards or get closer and risk the 2 CHs catching him.
The 2nd one was a long ball over which he has to outstrength the defender and control while running at pace.

If he scored either he would be in the 80m bracket.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:07 am

I also prefer when Vydra plays, it’s easier on the eye and more exciting. But it’s true that the stats don’t make his selection as cut and dried as some are making out. We also know that he joined the squad late and without the required fitness levels to start games. He has now regained his place in the starting eleven and I would expect him to keep it next weekend.

Some people get extremely precious when Vydra doesn’t make the starting eleven though.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:13 am

Vydra averaged 1 in 5 last season if you look at minutes on the pitch which was about equal to Barnes and a lot better than Jay.

The only player we've got who is consistent and good enough to regularly hit double figures for goals is Wood so in my view we should be looking at the striker who brings the best out of him and the rest of the team and since the start of the calendar year that player has been Vydra
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