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Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:51 pm

Come on Brighton keep Palace within reach please. :)

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:58 pm

Can’t see Palace being down there. Outstanding summer window.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:01 pm

Brighton go top I think, if they win. So yes, could do with them winning, seems they
ain't gonna trouble the bottom 3, if they continue in this form.

Whereas Palace might.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:10 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:01 pm
Brighton go top I think, if they win. So yes, could do with them winning, seems they
ain't gonna trouble the bottom 3, if they continue in this form.

Whereas Palace might.
Brighton can go top yes, so you'd imagine they'll be motivated.

Worth mentioning of course that Southampton were flying high at this stage of the campaign last season before spectacularly collapsing, so never say never, but it's hard to see Brighton being in the mix this time.

Palace will probably also be fine, but of the two they are the most likely to be nearer the bottom 3 on the evidence of the first few games.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:15 pm

I would like them both relegated possibly Brighton with its obnoxious fan base more so

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:22 pm

Palace fans are superb

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:24 pm

Remember when our in the know fans were saying both Palace and Brighton would struggle this season.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by chekhov » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:26 pm

Hope Palace can stop Brighton in their tracks this evening. Eagles!

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:24 pm
Remember when our in the know fans were saying both Palace and Brighton would struggle this season.
Is it 5 or 6 games we've played? ... Were Bournemouth top around this time the season they got relegated... Southampton similar but just survived

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:35 pm

Grumps wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:30 pm
Is it 5 or 6 games we've played? ... Were Bournemouth top around this time the season they got relegated... Southampton similar but just survived
No Bournemouth weren’t top and Southampton had 7 points after 6 games last season.

Our fans made it clear that both Palace and Brighton would really struggle this season. In reality they will both be on 40 points with 7-8 games left of the season.

Quality recruitment at both clubs

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by taio » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:35 pm
Our fans made it clear that both Palace and Brighton would really struggle this season. In reality they will both be on 40 points with 7-8 games left of the season.
All of our fans, the majority of our fans, or just a very tiny minority on here?

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:39 pm

Grumps wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:30 pm
Is it 5 or 6 games we've played? ... Were Bournemouth top around this time the season they got relegated... Southampton similar but just survived
Amazing how the same know it all’s that have Brighton and Palace as safe,have us down… anyone would think they were purely reactionary… and yet they are so quick to attack their own side.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by taio » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:45 pm

Pen Palace

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:46 pm

What was Trossard doing?

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:46 pm

When is a shoulder charge a barge? Another line in the sand

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:47 pm

Shocking defending.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:47 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:46 pm
When is a shoulder charge a barge? Another line in the sand
When it’s done from behind with no intention to compete for the ball.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:48 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:39 pm
Amazing how the same know it all’s that have Brighton and Palace as safe,have us down… anyone would think they were purely reactionary… and yet they are so quick to attack their own side.
No-one is safe 5/6 games into the season, and equally nobody is relegated,.

Many teams have started strongly and then hit the buffers in this league, Southampton being a notable example only last season.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by chekhov » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:48 pm

Yes! 1-0 Palace.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:49 pm

there's a fair number on here who have said Potter is pure shyte, and Viera hasn't a clue

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:50 pm

Soft pen that, but clumsy from the defender.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:47 pm
When it’s done from behind with no intention to compete for the ball.
He may have come from behind but it was shoulder to shoulder… is leaning in to unbalance a striker also a barge?

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:52 pm

taio wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:39 pm
All of our fans, the majority of our fans, or just a very tiny minority on here?
I would say a vast majority were saying it when there were discussions about Dyche leaving this summer.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by taio » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:52 pm
I would say a vast majority were saying it when there were discussions about Dyche leaving this summer.
Rubbish.
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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:55 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:51 pm
He may have come from behind but it was shoulder to shoulder… is leaning in to unbalance a striker also a barge?
Just because their shoulders made contact doesn’t make it a fair challenge. Trossard came from behind and just barged Gallagher to the ground with no intention of competing for the ball. It’s crap defending and a clear penalty.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:55 pm

Palace been really impressive every time I’ve seen them.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:02 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:55 pm
Just because their shoulders made contact doesn’t make it a fair challenge. Trossard came from behind and just barged Gallagher to the ground with no intention of competing for the ball. It’s crap defending and a clear penalty.
That is the point, no he didn’t. The contact was shoulder to shoulder…. That is a shoulder barge. I’m not arguing if his arm was classed as pushing, or even in this case if it was hard enough to warrant a penalty. I’m interested that shoulder to shoulder contact is now considered a foul not a shoulder charge and the implications of that.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:03 pm

taio wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:53 pm
Rubbish.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56121&p=1606949&hil ... e#p1606949

Here is one of the many topics, feel free to type in Crystal Palace to the search bar. There are loads of posts from Burnley fans saying that Brighton and Palace would struggle this season.

With quite a few Burnley fans taking the **** out of Some fans suggesting they will do well.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Spijed » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:03 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:48 pm
No-one is safe 5/6 games into the season, and equally nobody is relegated,.

Many teams have started strongly and then hit the buffers in this league, Southampton being a notable example only last season.
Yes. Last season Southampton were top after the same number of games then got one point from nine matches.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:35 pm
No Bournemouth weren’t top and Southampton had 7 points after 6 games last season.

Our fans made it clear that both Palace and Brighton would really struggle this season. In reality they will both be on 40 points with 7-8 games left of the season.

Quality recruitment at both clubs
Sorry, it was nearer Xmas that Southampton hit the dizzy heights, shows even more how silly it is making predictions this early.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Spijed » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:35 pm
No Bournemouth weren’t top and Southampton had 7 points after 6 games last season.

Our fans made it clear that both Palace and Brighton would really struggle this season. In reality they will both be on 40 points with 7-8 games left of the season.

Quality recruitment at both clubs
And no doubt the same ones saying Leeds won't be anywhere near the relegation places.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:07 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:02 pm
That is the point, no he didn’t. The contact was shoulder to shoulder…. That is a shoulder barge. I’m not arguing if his arm was classed as pushing, or even in this case if it was hard enough to warrant a penalty. I’m interested that shoulder to shoulder contact is now considered a foul not a shoulder charge and the implications of that.
The laws of the game;

The act of charging is a challenge for space using physical contact within playing distance of the ball without using arms or elbows.
It is an offence to charge an opponent:
• in a careless manner
• in a reckless manner
• using excessive force


Trossard wasn’t within playing distance of the ball, he was careless, reckless and used excessive force.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by taio » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:03 pm
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56121&p=1606949&hil ... e#p1606949

Here is one of the many topics, feel free to type in Crystal Palace to the search bar. There are loads of posts from Burnley fans saying that Brighton and Palace would struggle this season.

With quite a few Burnley fans taking the **** out of Some fans suggesting they will do well.
How the hell does this remotely equate to the 'vast majority' of Burnley fans saying Palace and Brighton would struggle?

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:07 pm
The laws of the game;

The act of charging is a challenge for space using physical contact within playing distance of the ball without using arms or elbows.
It is an offence to charge an opponent:
• in a careless manner
• in a reckless manner
• using excessive force


Trossard wasn’t within playing distance of the ball, he was careless, reckless and used excessive force.
Fair enough about the ball. Poor do when you need a ball to put the shoulder in, preferred it how I played :?

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:15 pm

Still don’t fancy either of them over us tbh. Think both will drop down the league through winter. Potter is a decent coach though, but they are both clubs able to boil over with disputes at any point in the season.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Intoclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:27 pm

Some quality analysis and insight from the commentary team.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:32 pm

If anyone other than Zaha threw their arms around at opponents as he does each game they’d be sent off every appearance.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:34 pm

does it really matter who said what ? ffs just watch the game
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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by IanMcL » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:36 pm

I gave up at half time. Almost fell asleep. Brighton are dire to watch. Hundreds of negative passes.
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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:38 pm

Shocking miss from Ayew, Palace might live to regret that yet.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:36 pm
I gave up at half time. Almost fell asleep. Brighton are dire to watch. Hundreds of negative passes.
They've been poor tonight, but then they were poor at TM, before we allowed them back into the game.

This is more like the Brighton of last season, plenty of the ball, but no cutting edge.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by gsyclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:32 pm
If anyone other than Zaha threw their arms around at opponents as he does each game they’d be sent off every appearance.
absolutely he just got a free kick and his hands and arms were all over the defender

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 pm

Gallagher bee outstanding for Palace again. Remember some of our fans on here saying he wouldn’t have been good enough for us.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by tiger76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:44 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 pm
Gallagher bee outstanding for Palace again. Remember some of our fans on here saying he wouldn’t have been good enough for us.
Gallagher has been immense again, and it wouldn't surprise me if he got MOTM.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:48 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 pm
Gallagher bee outstanding for Palace again. Remember some of our fans on here saying he wouldn’t have been good enough for us.
I always take such opinions with a pinch of salt. Equally, Different players work for different clubs. Cannot say I ever watched Gallagher enough to make any conclusion on him, that would be sound either way.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:48 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 pm
Gallagher bee outstanding for Palace again. Remember some of our fans on here saying he wouldn’t have been good enough for us.
Where was that said?

I've seen several say we should sign him and also that if he came here on loan he'd probably not get used, but I've yet to see any comment saying not to sign him based on ability.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:51 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:48 pm
Where was that said?

I've seen several say we should sign him and also that if he came here on loan he'd probably not get used, but I've yet to see any comment saying not to sign him based on ability.
General comments such as ‘didn’t pull up any trees for West Brom’ and ‘yeah he helped west brom to relegation’ etc.

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by bobinho » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:52 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:24 pm
Remember when our in the know fans were saying both Palace and Brighton would struggle this season.
I do yes. And after half a dozen games, they still have every chance of being correct.
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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:53 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:51 pm
General comments such as ‘didn’t pull up any trees for West Brom’ and ‘yeah he helped west brom to relegation’ etc.
Yeah, again I'm not seeing those comments.
One person said he was very good at Swansea, not so much at WBA, but that's it.

Pretty sure everyone agreed he's a good player, for once :lol:

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Re: Palace-Brighton

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:55 pm

Hilariously bad goal to concede.

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