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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:44 pm

Bruce is about to be sacked within 48 hrs according to reports. Graham Jones in charge for the Spurs game.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:12 pm

BBC gossip pages on their football site is saying newcastle want tarks, and also lingard, and icardi from PSG. not a hope in hell. i hope they get relegated.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:13 pm

Spiral wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:36 pm
It's the football equivalent of, *sobbing* "my sister's husband buys her flowers and tells her he loves her all the time, why don't you?"

Also, you used the word project unironically. Football isn't the same exact thing to me as it is to you. That's fine, but you'll never convince me to like this. As well put together as the show is (and it certainly is), it's at the point where I barely even watch MOTD anymore because I'm a bit fed up, and that would have been inconceivable to think when I started watching footy years ago.
So if football isn't the same thing to me as it is to you, why are you acting like it's negative towards Dyche to be excited to see the Newcastle project? I like football at the very top aswell as Burnley, I thought the Liverpool/City game recently was incredible, it's nothing to do with Burnley, doesn't affect my want for Burnley to win.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by timshorts » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:08 am
I think Shearer was banned from the club or something, certainly banished. I read Ashley changed a bars name inside the ground (formerly named after Shearer). So Shearer is just biased and mad and generally the Geordies seem to think they deserve to be fighting at the top of the league, despite history suggesting they shouldn't.
Shearers bar was renamed because shearer was critical of the ashley regime. Think you have the donkey and the cart the wrong way round.

Meanwhile, Karen Brady, the dildo twins spokesperson is the latest to be critical of the new owners based upon their morality.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:39 pm

Oils running out so, they're buying somewhere else to live.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:48 pm

£5m pay off ,allegedly for Steve Bruce, nice work if you can get it

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by tiger76 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:00 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:48 pm
£5m pay off ,allegedly for Steve Bruce, nice work if you can get it
And some fans wonder why he doesn't simply walk, I'd be doing precisely the same as him in this situation, sit tight and wait for the new owners to dismiss him.

According to the rumours Graham Potter is a strong favourite to take the reins, I must admit he wasn't the 1st name that crossed my mind, despite the splendid job he's doing at Brighton.

However if Newcastle want to get back to playing open attacking football maybe he wouldn't be a bad shout, and crucially he knows the PL, and what it takes to get results in this league.

Be a big blow for Brighton to lose him though.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:43 pm

Be a bigger blow to Newcastle if they appoint him.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by claretandy » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:02 am

The first batch of players that they manage to sign will be the mercenary types, like Robinho, Carbone and Bogarde.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:38 am

claretandy wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:02 am
The first batch of players that they manage to sign will be the mercenary types, like Robinho, Carbone and Bogarde.
A bit old now, I'd have thought.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:40 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:43 pm
Be a bigger blow to Newcastle if they appoint him.
What is this "jealous/hate" thing that a lot of Burnley fans seem to have against Leeds and/or Brighton

Both clubs certainly spend more money than us and a lot of people (inside and out of Burnley) think they play more attractive football than us

But the same could be said of virtually every other club in the Premiership

Just find it a bit strange

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:28 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:40 am
What is this "jealous/hate" thing that a lot of Burnley fans seem to have against Leeds and/or Brighton

Both clubs certainly spend more money than us and a lot of people (inside and out of Burnley) think they play more attractive football than us

But the same could be said of virtually every other club in the Premiership

Just find it a bit strange
Never mentioned 'jealousy/hate' so I'm not sure why you have accused me of that. But never mind, you carry on. I was just trying to make the point that with this highest of profiles that they now apparently possess and a seemingly bottomless pot of dirty money and knowing Geordies as well as I do, I think underwhelmed might be a reaction from them. I'm not saying they should be but that it is how I suspect they might react. Only a supposition, of course.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:33 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:28 am
Never mentioned 'jealousy/hate' so I'm not sure why you have accused me of that. But never mind, you carry on. I was just trying to make the point that with this highest of profiles that they now apparently possess and a seemingly bottomless pot of dirty money and knowing Geordies as well as I do, I think underwhelmed might be a reaction from them. I'm not saying they should be but that it is how I suspect they might react. Only a supposition, of course.
I'd agree, Potter would be an underwhelming appointment at this moment in time, he wouldn't attract the players they're seeking to raise the club up to top 7.
He was made manager at Brighton in May 2019.
They've finished 15th and then 16th under his managership, that isn't what Newcastle want or need.

A real statement of intent would be appointing a serial winner, like Conte.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:41 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:33 am
I'd agree, Potter would be an underwhelming appointment at this moment in time, he wouldn't attract the players they're seeking to raise the club up to top 7.
He was made manager at Brighton in May 2019.
They've finished 15th and then 16th under his managership, that isn't what Newcastle want or need.

A real statement of intent would be appointing a serial winner, like Conte.
Would be interesting to see how a manager like Conte would perform with a struggling group of players, where he couldn't immediately spend money in the transfer market until January.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:41 am

https://twitter.com/CEMEDlA/status/1447 ... AVNkA&s=19

Good article by a Geordie about the takeover.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:42 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:41 am
Would be interesting to see how a manager like Conte would perform with a struggling group of players, where he couldn't immediately spend money in the transfer market until January, something.
He'd have to buy into a long term project and the owners would also have to resist pulling the trigger whilst he rebuilt the squad etc.

Would be worth a watch though

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by KRBFC » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:12 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:42 am
He'd have to buy into a long term project and the owners would also have to resist pulling the trigger whilst he rebuilt the squad etc.

Would be worth a watch though
It's a massive appointment, I wonder who they go for. I seen Gerrard and Lampard linked, pretty underwhelming choices. I think Potter is probably the best English manager out there atm, kept Brighton up with peanuts playing attractive football and gradually built a good side sticking to his principles and they've started the season on fire. But could he attract the international players? seems unlikely.

Part of me would like to see Jose appointed, assemble his own great team and stick two fingers up to the doubters. It wasn't until he left United people actually realized he did a good job, it just never felt like a long term fix. Took Spurs to a cup final under the stingy Levy, now look at the state of them.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:14 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:12 am
It's a massive appointment, I wonder who they go for. I seen Gerrard and Lampard linked, pretty underwhelming choices. I think Potter is probably the best English manager out there atm, kept Brighton up with peanuts playing attractive football and gradually built a good side sticking to his principles and they've started the season on fire. But could he attract the international players? seems unlikely.

Part of me would like to see Jose appointed, assemble his own great team and stick two fingers up to the doubters. It wasn't until he left United people actually realized he did a good job, it just never felt like a long term fix. Took Spurs to a cup final under the stingy Levy, now look at the state of them.
Alexa............. insert the fishing emoji.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by KRBFC » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:19 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:14 am
Alexa............. insert the fishing emoji.
What's their net spend since he took over? The owner seems to have stopped spending since Potter came in. I'm looking at their 11, Welbeck/Lallana free transfers, that GK from the youth team, Shane Duffy, Lewis Dunk and Dan Burn must have cost 3 twixes between them.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:31 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:19 am
What's their net spend since he took over? The owner seems to have stopped spending since Potter came in. I'm looking at their 11, Welbeck/Lallana free transfers, that GK from the youth team, Shane Duffy, Lewis Dunk and Dan Burn must have cost 3 twixes between them.
Only one lot of accounts available at present, from his first season.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... LuqeA&s=19

For anyone claiming they're well run etc, just note their debt figure...

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:37 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:31 am
Only one lot of accounts available at present, from his first season.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... LuqeA&s=19

For anyone claiming they're well run etc, just note their debt figure...
Problem being for some they think the only cost in football is a transfer fee, it is like when they become old enough to buy a house the only cost is a mortgage. Either that or peanuts have become very expensive down there.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by KRBFC » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:41 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:31 am
Only one lot of accounts available at present, from his first season.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... LuqeA&s=19

For anyone claiming they're well run etc, just note their debt figure...
net spend of around £12m a season on transfer fees since he took over, certainly not huge sums of money in the PL. The funding does seem to have dried up somewhat though, maybe Bloom realised he had to throw an initial bag of cash at it to stay in the league and is now cutting funds to decrease debt. They have got rid of some of the big earners and previous big money signings too, Izqueirdo, Andone, Jahanbaksh and Propper all left in the last window.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:46 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:41 am
net spend of around £12m a season on transfer fees since he took over, certainly not huge sums of money in the PL. The funding does seem to have dried up somewhat though, maybe Bloom realised he had to throw an initial bag of cash at it to stay in the league and is now cutting funds to decrease debt. They have got rid of some of the big earners and previous big money signings too, Izqueirdo, Andone, Jahanbaksh and Propper all left in the last window.
The spending was on hold because of Covid, massive amounts of revenue lost, rebates etc.
Al the things that were a problem for us, were a problem for everyone else also but that's usually ignored amidst all the noise people were making about Garlick.

He's never gonna decrease that debt, unless he wants to sell the club and then he will probably write it off like Davies did at Bolton.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by KRBFC » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:53 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:46 am
The spending was on hold because of Covid, massive amounts of revenue lost, rebates etc.
Al the things that were a problem for us, were a problem for everyone else also but that's usually ignored amidst all the noise people were making about Garlick.

He's never gonna decrease that debt, unless he wants to sell the club and then he will probably write it off like Davies did at Bolton.
I guess debt doesn't matter if it's debt to the owner he never intends to cash, I wonder if their wage bill is highly bonus incentivised too, £102m seems sky high for 2019. Does that figure include the full wage of players out on loan, where the loan team are contributing towards the wages? I'd be interested to see what their wage bill is now, they have an awful lot of players out on loan and have got rid of big earners in the last 2 years for very little in return. Bloom spent a small fortune when they first arrived in the PL, that number does seem to be more balanced now though but it's hard to say without the full updated facts on wages etc.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by KRBFC » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:57 am

A couple of sites say their current wage bill is around £40m-44m, either that is rubbish or the wages are bonus heavy.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:53 am
I guess debt doesn't matter if it's debt to the owner he never intends to cash, I wonder if their wage bill is highly bonus incentivised too, £102m seems sky high for 2019. Does that figure include the full wage of players out on loan, where the loan team are contributing towards the wages? I'd be interested to see what their wage bill is now, they have an awful lot of players out on loan and have got rid of big earners in the last 2 years for very little in return. Bloom spent a small fortune when they first arrived in the PL, that number does seem to be more balanced now though but it's hard to say without the full updated facts on wages etc.
According to the link the wage bill is 80% of turnover which is pretty good tbh.
Dunno what it is since last summer's signings, cos Welbeck and Lallana won't be low earners.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:54 pm

If Potter went to Newcastle the question is whether it would weaken one or both clubs.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:19 pm

Potter isn't very well thought of on here, yet most pundits or journalists seem to think he's a very good, up and coming manager who gets his team's playing decent football.
One thing's for sure he's certainly ahead of Mr Dyche in the pecking order when any bigger jobs come up.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:23 pm

Why didn't you just say he's better than Dyche.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:28 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:19 pm
Potter isn't very well thought of on here, yet most pundits or journalists seem to think he's a very good, up and coming manager who gets his team's playing decent football.
One thing's for sure he's certainly ahead of Mr Dyche in the pecking order when any bigger jobs come up.
For all the decent football they've finished 15th and then 16th under his management....

Howe was also another media golden manager who's teams played pretty football and he's still unemployed last I checked.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:32 pm

If Potter is the big rumour to take over at Newcastle William Hill haven't heard about it obviously, they will be only too glad to take your cash whilst giving you odds of 16/1.

Like finding money in the street :P

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:33 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:19 pm
Potter isn't very well thought of on here, yet most pundits or journalists seem to think he's a very good, up and coming manager who gets his team's playing decent football.
One thing's for sure he's certainly ahead of Mr Dyche in the pecking order when any bigger jobs come up.
Well he record to date certainly suggests he is nowhere near as good as SD.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:43 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:33 pm
Well he record to date certainly suggests he is nowhere near as good as SD.
Don't let that get in the way of the Newcastle love-in.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:19 pm

Potters record in Sweden was excellent taking Östersund from the 4th tier to the 1st tier (for the first time in their history) in just 4 seasons and on a limited budget managed to get them to as high as 5th in the league and winning the Swedish cup.

That cup win took them into Europe where not only did they beat teams like Galatasaray to get through the qualifying but they also came second in their group and qualified for the knockout phases. They were finally knocked out by Arsenal despite winning 2-1 at the Emirates.

Brighton obviously saw something in him at Swansea to want to poach him and after two seasons of building his team they are starting to look like a decent Premier League team and reap the rewards from getting him as their manager

I dont see why some posters need to get so defensive about these kind of subjects and seem to take everything as a competition between whoever and Dyche. At the end of the day Dyche has done phenomenal with us and Potter did phenomenal in Sweden and is now starting to get good results at Brighton.

Id be shocked if Newcastle go for him but if they do it would be a massive loss to Brighton

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:30 pm

I think Potter will not be razzmatazz enough to be considered. Think Newcastle will join the merry-go-round of the usual European suspects.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:10 pm

I think they'll go for Potter. Not a big name but he has European and PL experience. Given the tools, he'll quietly set about creating a decent side.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:14 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:33 pm
Well he record to date certainly suggests he is nowhere near as good as SD.
The opening game of the season, and since, seems to suggest Potter is getting tactically better whilst SD could be seen as stagnating

Let's hope that changes ;)
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:16 pm

I think 'said posters are viewed as defensive because of the constant belittling of a manager who has worked absolute wonders for a small town club over a number of years in arguably the best league in world football( outside Sweden obviously) without substantial backing from an outside source.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:18 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:14 pm
The opening game of the season, and since, seems to suggest Potter is getting tactically better whilst SD could be seen as stagnating

Let's hope that changes ;)
Based on seven games?

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:27 pm

Its you said posters who seem so insecure you have to belittle other players and managers and in this perfect example instead of being able to recognise that Potter like Dyche has had some brilliant success as a manager you instead have to try and belittle his achievements by making a snide dig at Sweden

Why cant you just admit that what Potter achieved in Sweden was exceptional and that he looks to be improving Brighton. Admitting this takes nothing away from how successful Dyche has been with us.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Nonayforever » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:47 pm

Whoever is chosen as the next manager won't be the manager for the long term, although he won't realise it.
The new owners preferred, and probably already signed up, manager will be pulling the strings in the background whilst serving out his time with his current club untill the summer and the dirty work is over.
The board will have been given a few names to chase in January by the preferred manager , the stool pigeon (new manager) will be asked who he wants to sign and the already identified targets will be added to his list.
Lo and behold the stool pigeon gets what he thinks are his targets and lets them get settled in for the summers arrival of the new man.

The very best managers don't start at the bottom.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:53 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:47 pm
Whoever is chosen as the next manager won't be the manager for the long term, although he won't realise it.
The new owners preferred, and probably already signed up, manager will be pulling the strings in the background whilst serving out his time with his current club untill the summer and the dirty work is over.
The board will have been given a few names to chase in January by the preferred manager , the stool pigeon (new manager) will be asked who he wants to sign and the already identified targets will be added to his list.
Lo and behold the stool pigeon gets what he thinks are his targets and lets them get settled in for the summers arrival of the new man.

The very best managers don't start at the bottom.
Alternatively the very best so-called managers won't touch jobs where there isn't a vast pot of money involved. Could any top manager keep us in the Prem with our resources, for example.
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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by taio » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:02 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:53 pm
Alternatively the very best so-called managers won't touch jobs where there isn't a vast pot of money involved. Could any top manager keep us in the Prem with our resources, for example.
I imagine so.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:07 pm

I can't see anywhere that I mentioned Potter in the whole post. I think it was you that eulogised about his achievements in Sweden, a country that I have no knowledge of regarding standard of football and so understandably eliminated from my overall comment on world football. If
it is a powerhouse of national league football then I doff my hat to him for his meteoric rise and apologise to you for inferring otherwise. Several posters have alluded to the point that he has finishes of 15th and 16th so far, with significant financial backingI must add, hence my reluctance currently to champion his name as one of the current rising stars in the game.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:22 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:07 pm
I can't see anywhere that I mentioned Potter in the whole post. I think it was you that eulogised about his achievements in Sweden, a country that I have no knowledge of regarding standard of football and so understandably eliminated from my overall comment on world football. If
it is a powerhouse of national league football then I doff my hat to him for his meteoric rise and apologise to you for inferring otherwise. Several posters have alluded to the point that he has finishes of 15th and 16th so far, with significant financial backingI must add, hence my reluctance currently to champion his name as one of the current rising stars in the game.
You responded to a post I made about Potter and made a glib and negative remark after moaning about others doing the same towards Dyche. The fact you're now trying to act like you wasn't doing this shows you up for how childish you are when it comes to discussions of this nature.

I simply highlighted the Potter has had a very successful career as a manager and found it odd that some people cant deal with this and get defensive. Seems like it hit a nerve with your subsequent responses and like I said you've just got really childish about it all so I'll leave you to play with your rattle in piece.

As said Potter's achievements in Sweden were exceptional and the squad he has built in two years at Brighton is starting to look very good. If this kind of praise for him makes people uncomfortable or upset then thats your own troubles to deal with but what an insular life some of you must lead if this kind of thing genuinely gets to you

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:53 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:33 pm
Well he record to date certainly suggests he is nowhere near as good as SD.
Well there must be a reason Potter is getting linked with bigger jobs and Dyche isn't. And I don't buy the "we're little old Burnley, nobody likes us" rubbish.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:53 pm

Look, have a go at the others if you desperately want an argument. Potty v Dyche. Plenty of mileage in that for a Monday night. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:04 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:53 pm
Well there must be a reason Potter is getting linked with bigger jobs and Dyche isn't. And I don't buy the "we're little old Burnley, nobody likes us" rubbish.
Scott Parker was being linked to the Spurs job.

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Re: Newcastle takeover

Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:26 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:41 am
https://twitter.com/CEMEDlA/status/1447 ... AVNkA&s=19

Good article by a Geordie about the takeover.
that is a heartfelt piece, but it appears that much of the criticism regarding the purchase of the club is from people outside the game.
I doubt many Newcastle United supporters will boycott the forthcoming games as a protest.
Neither do I think fans of Newcastles opponents will stay away to show disapproval for the regime that now owns their club.

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