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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:21 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:30 pm
I think Chelsea would like to see Barkley playing just to get other clubs interested in him being taken off their books permanently

As for silly money - what do we, or other clubs for that matter, consider to be a reasonable amount to give us a better chance of more Premier League football (and financial rewards)
Silly money isn't £3m in 1 year for wages to improve us and try to bank a further £130m+.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:21 pm
Silly money isn't £3m in 1 year for wages to improve us and try to bank a further £130m+.
To be fair KRBFC I believe the loan deals cost considerably more than that.

I’m pretty sure Gallagher at Palace was a 3m Loan fee with Palace paying all of his wages. Plus his agent receives a fee for making the deal happen. All in that deal probably cost around 7-8m to loan a player for a season.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Commy » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:30 pm

Players are happy at Burnley so, if he fits in and enjoys it, he might want to stay, with a drop in wages. Is he someone that wants to play or just happy to pick up the wage and sit on his backside? He must have enough money now to not worry, and even on our wages the players are millionaires.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:32 pm

Commy wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:30 pm
Players are happy at Burnley so, if he fits in and enjoys it, he might want to stay, with a drop in wages. Is he someone that wants to play or just happy to pick up the wage and sit on his backside? He must have enough money now to not worry, and even on our wages the players are millionaires.
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Only way that happens is if they do what we have done with Cornet.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:41 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:26 pm
To be fair KRBFC I believe the loan deals cost considerably more than that.

I’m pretty sure Gallagher at Palace was a 3m Loan fee with Palace paying all of his wages. Plus his agent receives a fee for making the deal happen. All in that deal probably cost around 7-8m to loan a player for a season.
You still need to make the deal more appetising than other clubs offering, i think in palaces case he chose them over Leeds for a reason maybe reasons he wasn’t adverse to moving to the midlands last season with West Brom so maybe location not the reason & didn’t want to go to Leeds, we have to present a package more acceptable to Chelsea & RB than other clubs.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:53 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:41 pm
You still need to make the deal more appetising than other clubs offering, i think in palaces case he chose them over Leeds for a reason maybe reasons he wasn’t adverse to moving to the midlands last season with West Brom so maybe location not the reason & didn’t want to go to Leeds, we have to present a package more acceptable to Chelsea & RB than other clubs.
In Barkley’s case I don’t think that necessarily applies, a lot of Northerners would much rather visit London than live around it once they get past their twenties and start to think ahead.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:57 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:53 pm
In Barkley’s case I don’t think that necessarily applies, a lot of Northerners would much rather visit London than live around it once they get past their twenties and start to think ahead.
You are possibly right a variety of different reasons will exist why somebody chooses somewhere, all I’m saying is we won’t be the only club after Barkley & we will need to compete to get him.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:40 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:57 pm
You are possibly right a variety of different reasons will exist why somebody chooses somewhere, all I’m saying is we won’t be the only club after Barkley & we will need to compete to get him.
Think that depends to be honest after Villa, they didn’t bust a gut to get him back. I think lower end but I think most top clubs will think they have positions covered and introducing Barkley may unsettle rather than help them. I don’t think their would be much higher demand than there was in the Summer.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:59 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:40 pm
Think that depends to be honest after Villa, they didn’t bust a gut to get him back. I think lower end but I think most top clubs will think they have positions covered and introducing Barkley may unsettle rather than help them. I don’t think their would be much higher demand than there was in the Summer.
By all accounts he started well for Villa but quickly faded. Still think he’d be a good signing for us with Dyche being able to get the best out of him. Presuming if we are still interested there has been ongoing dialogue between both parties.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by NewClaret » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:52 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:59 pm
By all accounts he started well for Villa but quickly faded. Still think he’d be a good signing for us with Dyche being able to get the best out of him. Presuming if we are still interested there has been ongoing dialogue between both parties.
I heard that from my Villa supporting mates. Not sure it’ll matter for us come January we might welcome anyone who would give us the most temporary of lifts.

I’d prefer a loan with an option to buy though, and, whoever we have in mind for January, I hope apace and his team are looking to get them in at the beginning of the window.
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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:29 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:12 pm
If we had Barkley I could see our midfield/attack lining up as follows

Roberts McNeil Brownhill Barkley
*********Cornet Woods***********
And we think our midfield is over run now. Imagine lining up in a premier league game with that midfield. Might as just give the opposition a two goal head start.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by JohnMac » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:55 am

A player of Barkley's ability is exactly what we need but I'm not certain Barkley is the answer.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by beddie » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:05 am

Off topic slightly but my Liverpool supporting relative told me a lot of their fans don’t like Henderson, he’s often getting stick from a section of the crowd, now he’d be a player I would love, finances etc I realise won’t allow it to happen but he’s exactly what we need imo.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:02 am

Linked with Leeds and Newcastle today, so that’s that then.

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Re: Ross Barkley

Post by NewClaret » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:06 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:02 am
Linked with Leeds and Newcastle today, so that’s that then.
Did think summer was the time if we were going to do this one.

I imagine we thought we were signing Christie initially, then when that fell through it was too late to agree a deal.

Certainly Newcastle & Leeds will pay a much bigger proportion of his salary so unlikely if either of them are sniffing around.

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