ARTICLE: Collins is top man again in City defeat

[ClaretTony]

Man of the match & player ratings result v Man City

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/collins-is ... ity-defeat

[Rowls]

I wasn't convinced by his appearance against Rochdale but this was an assured performance that showed his potential.

Looks like we've signed an excellent player here.

[Buxtonclaret]

I wasn't convinced by his appearance against Rochdale but this was an assured performance that showed his potential.

Looks like we've signed an excellent player here.

His outstanding game aside, what impressed me most was he did it against one of the best & most expensive club sides in world football.
Never looked remotely overawed or, out of place.
It was very impressive.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Given he has been man of the match twice it would be very harsh if he had to drop down to the bench for Mee's comeback.

I hope he starts against Southampton.

[TheFamilyCat]

Well done Bambi

[MACCA]

Given he has been man of the match twice it would be very harsh if he had to drop down to the bench for Mee's comeback.

I hope he starts against Southampton.

Mee doesn't get dropped, ask a certain Mr Gibson.

The fact he is club captain makes it even harder for him to be dropped, regardless of his form, performances or that of his potential replacement.

He will get his run of games whe one of the main 3 are injured or when Tarky leaves, no sooner.

[ecc]

I thought the lad played against Norwich. Didn't see the game on Saturday but it sounds good.

[Rowls]

I thought the lad played against Norwich. Didn't see the game on Saturday but it sounds good.

I believe he did indeed. But his performance at Man City was the one that sold me the idea that he really has talent.

[fidelcastro]

Well done Bambi

Yep. He was rubbish against Norwich, and if you think differently, then you're just wearing Claret tinted specs!

[Quickenthetempo]

By my reckoning, he has played 4 games and only conceded 3 goals, including City away.

We would be mad to drop him.

Let Ben prove his fitness against Spurs.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Mee doesn't get dropped, ask a certain Mr Gibson.

The fact he is club captain makes it even harder for him to be dropped, regardless of his form, performances or that of his potential replacement.

He will get his run of games whe one of the main 3 are injured or when Tarky leaves, no sooner.

It used to be that if you played well you kept the shirt in Dyche's old days, now he seems to play a favourite regardless of form.

Should be Collins' shirt to lose i reckon. If he puts a bad performance in then fair enough but players shouldnt just walk back into the team even if their the captain.

[ClaretTony]

It used to be that if you played well you kept the shirt in Dyche's old days, now he seems to play a favourite regardless of form.

Should be Collins' shirt to lose i reckon. If he puts a bad performance in then fair enough but players shouldnt just walk back into the team even if their the captain.

That's nonsense and no matter which way you look at it, it's Ben Mee's shirt to lose.

[warksclaret]

That's nonsense and no matter which way you look at it, it's Ben Mee's shirt to lose.

I guess we wont know until 2.00pm on Saturday. Personally I would like to see Collins stay in the team for this game. I saw him play v Norwich and watched the whole Man City game on SKY, and he played very well both games-the latter game against a side that have the habit of turning us over. I feel Collins staying in, throws a very strong message to a team that has now gone 11 PL games without a win. It also throws the right message to Roberts-get in, play well, and keep the shirt. I know this guy is chomping at the bit. Hopefully all these fringe players including Rodriguez, will rise to the occasion v Spurs next week. This League Cup game has come at the right time

[ClaretDiver]

I guess we wont know until 2.00pm on Saturday. Personally I would like to see Collins stay in the team for this game. I saw him play v Norwich and watched the whole Man City game on SKY,

Wasn't aware the whole game was on Sky? Looked several times unless it was on a repeat and not live....

[Burnley1989]

You shouldn't lose your place through no fault of your own like a small injury, especially as captain. A silly sending off, poor in training or poor form then I'd agree.

A little different if its a long term injury

[ClaretTony]

I guess we wont know until 2.00pm on Saturday. Personally I would like to see Collins stay in the team for this game. I saw him play v Norwich and watched the whole Man City game on SKY, and he played very well both games-the latter game against a side that have the habit of turning us over. I feel Collins staying in, throws a very strong message to a team that has now gone 11 PL games without a win. It also throws the right message to Roberts-get in, play well, and keep the shirt. I know this guy is chomping at the bit. Hopefully all these fringe players including Rodriguez, will rise to the occasion v Spurs next week. This League Cup game has come at the right time

Our two central defenders, I thought, were outstanding against City although, of course, they do play without strikers.

[fatboy47]

Bit of a wacky idea I know, but why not just pick whoever you think is the best player.

Ideas built on the principle of "Buggins' turn" on the one hand, or "old pals" on the other seem a bit outdated to me at least.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

The good news is we seem to have found Tarks replacement. I think his distribution is slightly superior to Mee even at this stage and he looks to play on the floor going forward which is nice to see.

At 20 its scary how good he could become if he stays free of injuries.

One thing we do well is buying defenders, hats off to whoever made this one possible.

[MACCA]

I think his distribution is slightly superior to Mee even at this stage and he looks to play on the floor going forward which is nice to see.

Don't worry there's another 9 months to hammer in that's not how we play.

He will be doing Tarky whooshing and Mee shanking before we know it, he is in extra training to make sure it's embedded in him.

[warksclaret]

Wasn't aware the whole game was on Sky? Looked several times unless it was on a repeat and not live....

Every SKY game is shown on SKY, including those not shown live. THe Man City game the other week was shown at around 8.00am on Sunday morning. I look out for them and if showing during the night record them. Great service by SKY which is under promoted. Last season it was just 30 minutes of highlights per game

[warksclaret]

The good news is we seem to have found Tarks replacement. I think his distribution is slightly superior to Mee even at this stage and he looks to play on the floor going forward which is nice to see.

At 20 its scary how good he could become if he stays free of injuries.

One thing we do well is buying defenders, hats off to whoever made this one possible.

Agreed-the scouting was brilliant for Collins as it appears to have been for Cornet and hopefully Roberts too. This gives me hope re a new influential playmaker CM, and a striker who has goals in him. Both desperately needed for Jan. This will enable us to be more relaxed about letting some of the "old crops " go

[ClaretTony]

Every SKY game is shown on SKY, including those not shown live. THe Man City game the other week was shown at around 8.00am on Sunday morning. I look out for them and if showing during the night record them. Great service by SKY which is under promoted. Last season it was just 30 minutes of highlights per game

Unless it is on either BT or Prime - the Southampton game is scheduled for 2 a.m. this Sunday

[KRBFC]

Looks a better player than Mee has this season, I'd have Pieters and Collins in regardless of the fitness of the other two.

[fidelcastro]

Looks a better player than Mee has this season, I'd have Pieters and Collins in regardless of the fitness of the other two.

Thankfully, you're not the manager.

[KRBFC]

Thankfully, you're not the manager.

Sorry for giving my opinion on the relevant topic you absolute meat riding fan girl.

[Rileybobs]

Bit of a wacky idea I know, but why not just pick whoever you think is the best player.

Ideas built on the principle of "Buggins' turn" on the one hand, or "old pals" on the other seem a bit outdated to me at least.

Amusing isn’t it. The notion that Dyche’s favourite players aren’t the ones he considers to be the best.

[Jakubclaret]

But when people see things differently & results aren't favourable do people have a point or is the manager always right despite results indicating contrary.

[Rileybobs]

But when people see things differently & results aren't favourable do people have a point or is the manager always right despite results indicating contrary.

The manager doesn’t always get his team selection correct, but the idea that he picks players who are his ‘favourites’ ahead of players who are better is ridiculous.

Collins has started his Burnley career impressively, but if he makes way for Mee it is because Dyche knows that we have a better chance of getting a result with Mee in the side. His experience at this level and his leadership qualities put him in the driving seat, even if their ability was comparable, which it’s far too early for us to say.

[Jakubclaret]

The manager doesn’t always get his team selection correct, but the idea that he picks players who are his ‘favourites’ ahead of players who are better is ridiculous.

Collins has started his Burnley career impressively, but if he makes way for Mee it is because Dyche knows that we have a better chance of getting a result with Mee in the side. His experience at this level and his leadership qualities put him in the driving seat, even if their ability was comparable, which it’s far too early for us to say.

Not necessarily true if a manager thinks not selecting a player will dent the confidence long-term or potentially cause a negative imbalance within the squad he may sway differently from what we think is right or what we expect, he's in the driving seat because he's trusted to do the job based on what he's done previously it doesn't make it the right call it only becomes a right call if that decision turns out to be a good choice, if Collins loses his place to mee & mee has a mare it's a poor choice, you don't fix something that isn't broken.

[fidelcastro]

Sorry for giving my opinion on the relevant topic you absolute meat riding fan girl.