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Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by duncandisorderly » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:00 am

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:00 am

free speech...nothing to debate.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Spiral » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:26 am

As far as banners go that's class. Richard Masters clutching the pride flag in one hand and doing a thumbs up with another is just **chef's kiss**

Well done Palace fans.
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:38 am

fantastic and spot on
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:48 am

Of course the police are now involved.

Croydon Metropolitan Police have released a statement on Twitter, which says: "On Saturday 23 October police received a report of an offensive banner displayed by Crystal Palace fans.

"Officers are assessing the information and carrying out enquiries. Any allegations of racist abuse will be taken very seriously."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59025887

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by CFS » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 am

Has this guy actually been proven to do these things? Or is it the perception of the guy?

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Peter Loo » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:26 am

Unfortunately we have a dubious relationship with SA as we supply them with arms and they supply us with oil, so Governments in this Country don't want to "rock the boat" so to speak.. never the less a very relevant banner.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:49 am

Fair play.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by LeadBelly » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:39 am

Well done to Palace fans for having the cajones to express their opinion /free speech. It's a valid opinion IMO given the death of Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Turkey.
Wonderful that the Met has time to investigate this given the rising violence rates in London and the huge number of unsolved crimes (and all the ongoing investigations into its own officers).
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by chekhov » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:47 am

Great banner. Love it!

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:50 am

The magpie looks more like a penguin.
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by taio » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:50 am

Great work

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Belgianclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:58 am

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Dy1geo » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:12 am

All factual and I for one will donate to a “go fund me” for any legal fees should anyone be charged by the Police
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by bobinho » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:17 am

To be fair, there have been plenty of examples of people “passing” the test only for it to become apparent that they shouldn’t have.

This however seems to be the extreme. As stated by keadbelly, you’d think the met would have other priorities….

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:19 am

As said above free speech ( whether you agree with it or not) and against a regime. It’s difficult to see where the racism element is from the banner alone that the police are investigating.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:19 am

The police won't get too involved in this..quite rightly.

Football at the top really is a cess pit now.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by taio » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:24 am

The police will investigate because it has been reported. But it would have been best for them to issue a very swift and brief statement upon receiving the complaint saying they won't be considering it any further.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:33 am

Perhaps players who are keen to support the Anti Racist anti hobophobic alleged agenda of the Premier league will think twice about signing for this clearly tainted club

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Dy1geo » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:36 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:33 am
Perhaps players who are keen to support the Anti Racist anti hobophobic alleged agenda of the Premier league will think twice about signing for this clearly tainted club
Won’t happen as they are all quite happy to play a World Cup in a country where it is actually illegal to be homosexual
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:33 am
Perhaps players who are keen to support the Anti Racist anti hobophobic alleged agenda of the Premier league will think twice about signing for this clearly tainted club
I love the idea of hobophobia.
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:20 am

No time for the Palace ultras normally (clearly bored stockbrokers and middle managers) but this is great, and I hope more opposition fans do this
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:39 am

Perhaps the makers of the banner should put in on tee shirts they would make serious money
Our laws re free speech have been curtailed somewhat but telling the truth is not an offence
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:41 am

Can’t imagine a criminal act has been committed. Guessing that displaying the banner will have broken stadium rules though but doubt the CPFC fans will care about that.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:45 am

I'll get the popcorn out if this ends up with a bunch of fans in court.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:55 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am
I love the idea of hobophobia.
Gypsies Tramps & Thieves

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:15 am

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:55 am
Gypsies Tramps & Thieves
All tramps are not thieves. There's your hobophobia right there. Homeless Lives Matter
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:31 am

No comment.

Far too political for me and the dog :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:34 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am
I love the idea of hobophobia.
I've got a mate who was commonly called a Hobo-sexual, as in only dated so he had somewhere to live and he did that for years.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:43 am

Fog on the Tyne, eh?

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:52 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:15 am
All tramps are not thieves. There's your hobophobia right there. Homeless Lives Matter
Tut tut tut Familycat twas a joke dear ... did you not get the reference ... perhaps this may help 😉

https://youtu.be/TOSZwEwl_1Q

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:52 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:52 am
Tut tut tut Familycat twas a joke dear ... did you not get the reference ... perhaps this may help 😉

https://youtu.be/TOSZwEwl_1Q
Recognising jokes clearly isn't one of your strong points either.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:54 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:52 pm
Recognising jokes clearly isn't one of your strong points either.
😉

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by andyh » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:58 pm

Does this count as a cat fight? :D
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by KRBFC » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:20 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:39 am
Well done to Palace fans for having the cajones to express their opinion /free speech. It's a valid opinion IMO given the death of Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Turkey.
Wonderful that the Met has time to investigate this given the rising violence rates in London and the huge number of unsolved crimes (and all the ongoing investigations into its own officers).
I do love how suddenly everyone values the life of Jamal Khashoggi

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:21 pm

andyh wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:58 pm
Does this count as a cat fight? :D
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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:21 pm

Where’s the racist bit?

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:07 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:21 pm
Where’s the racist bit?
Presumably the depiction of the Arab

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by AndyClaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:15 pm

Money talks, David Beckham has allegedly been paid 10m to promote the Qatar world cup.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Holmeclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:33 pm

I don’t think this is racist or that a criminal act has been committed. However, there could be a civil action against those who put it up unless they are able to link the new owners to terrorism.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:37 pm

Holmeclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:33 pm
However, there could be a civil action against those who put it up.
If they do, I imagine there will be a crowdfund campaign to pay for any defence, and it won't be short of donations.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Bosscat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:38 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:07 pm
Presumably the depiction of the Arab
I thought it was the depiction of a Magpie as a Penguin ... can't get more Racist than that ... 😉

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:46 pm

I think the law says something like - if someone thinks it is racist then it is racist.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Holmeclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:55 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:37 pm
If they do, I imagine there will be a crowdfund campaign to pay for any defence, and it won't be short of donations.
I’m sure if I sued someone for calling me a terrorist, the same would happen. No surprises there.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:01 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:46 pm
I think the law says something like - if someone thinks it is racist then it is racist.
HaHaNo

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:03 pm

You need evidence you can't go around slandering people even if you are pretty sure it's right, we all think that & the other about certain things but unless you can back up what you are saying it's wise to keep your gob shut. If the police prosecute them no sympathy from me.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Spijed » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:04 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:03 pm
You need evidence you can't go around slandering people even if you are pretty sure it's right, we all think that & the other about certain things but unless you can back up what you are saying it's wise to keep your gob shut. If the police prosecute them no sympathy from me.
What's the difference then if someone turns up at a football match proclaiming ISIS or the Taliban are terrorists?

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:04 pm
What's the difference then if someone turns up at a football match proclaiming ISIS or the Taliban are terrorists?
That's proved beyond reasonable doubt but you still need to back up what you are saying, some of us thought jimmy saville was a sex pest preying on kids all them years ago but you can't just say things without proof to back up what you are saying.

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Spijed » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:10 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 pm
That's proved beyond reasonable doubt but you still need to back up what you are saying, some of us thought jimmy saville was a sex pest preying on kids all them years ago but you can't just say things without proof to back up what you are saying.
For a start it's beyond reasonable doubt isn't it that the Saudi's behead people?

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Re: Crystal Palace's Banner

Post by Billyblah » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:10 pm

I was expecting this thread to have been blocked some time back, over sensitivity towards political correctness....that said, I'm good with free speech and additionally Panorama and other tv programme makers came up with some pretty solid evidence some time back. Unfortunately some people are pretty much untouchable.
Well done Palace fans.

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