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Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:24 pm

May seem like a daft question, but does a team reduced to ten men have one less penalty taker in the shoot out, should it come to it?

I mean if it comes down to the 11th man to take.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:27 pm

Think the other team has to leave one player out to make it even.
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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:41 pm

I thought in these situations the Manager had to take the extra penalty. Im sure back in the 90's the then Mansfield manager Steve Parkin scored the winning penalty in whatever they called the EFL Trophy back then

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by beddie » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:41 pm
I thought in these situations the Manager had to take the extra penalty. Im sure back in the 90's the then Mansfield manager Steve Parkin scored the winning penalty in whatever they called the EFL Trophy back then
I hope not, if it’s Dyche it’s nailed on to go over the bar. :lol:

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by the_fat_shearer » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:56 pm

beddie wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:48 pm
I hope not, if it’s Dyche it’s nailed on to go over the bar. :lol:
100% career success rate at penalties I believe!

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by beddie » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:31 pm

the_fat_shearer wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:56 pm
100% career success rate at penalties I believe!
I, but it’s the Gammy leg that worries me. :D

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:50 pm

Golden Gamble winner gets to step up

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:27 pm
Think the other team has to leave one player out to make it even.
That's spot on, the other team makes a choice as to who they leave out.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by 775claret » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 pm
That's spot on, the other team makes a choice as to who they leave out.
Can they chose to leave their goalkeeper out?

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:57 pm

775claret wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:55 pm
Can they chose to leave their goalkeeper out?
Goal keepers seem to take class penalties in shoot outs, they deal with the nerves well I think as they’re already in the firing line

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:01 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:57 pm
Goal keepers seem to take class penalties in shoot outs, they deal with the nerves well I think as they’re already in the firing line
I saw an interview with a goalkeeper recently but can't remember who. He said he always wanted to take one because he felt with all the times he'd kicked a ball upfield suggested he could strike a ball.

A former Burnley striker once told me that strikers are not the best penalty takers because they rarely kick a dead ball in a match,
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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:01 pm
I saw an interview with a goalkeeper recently but can't remember who. He said he always wanted to take one because he felt with all the times he'd kicked a ball upfield suggested he could strike a ball.

A former Burnley striker once told me that strikers are not the best penalty takers because they rarely kick a dead ball in a match,
Yeah, I can imagine that’s very true

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:16 pm

I'd imagine very few penalties taken like a *goal kick would be saved.

*Traditional goal kicks, obviously. Not this two yard pass fannying about.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by ChrisG » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:37 pm

I always remember Kevin Pressman lashing one in the top corner against Wolves in a cup match. Absolutely leathered it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSMi02ghN3s
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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:01 pm
I saw an interview with a goalkeeper recently but can't remember who. He said he always wanted to take one because he felt with all the times he'd kicked a ball upfield suggested he could strike a ball.

A former Burnley striker once told me that strikers are not the best penalty takers because they rarely kick a dead ball in a match,
Paul Fletcher perhaps? Don't think I ever saw him take a penalty( though to be fair that can apply to a lot of forwards from years back). It's just that we always used to say that many of Paul Fletcher's goals were instinctive. The quicker the ball came to him the more lethal he seemed to be. Two of his goals from the 70's illustrate this perfectly; a volley at home to Villa early 72-73 and of course the goal at Leeds in 1974.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:45 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:29 pm
Paul Fletcher perhaps? Don't think I ever saw him take a penalty( though to be fair that can apply to a lot of forwards from years back). It's just that we always used to say that many of Paul Fletcher's goals were instinctive. The quicker the ball came to him the more lethal he seemed to be. Two of his goals from the 70's illustrate this perfectly; a volley at home to Villa early 72-73 and of course the goal at Leeds in 1974.
It wasn't Fletch, but he falls into that category. I think he only took one and that was to complete a hat trick.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Shappie » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:12 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:57 pm
Goal keepers seem to take class penalties in shoot outs, they deal with the nerves well I think as they’re already in the firing line


Paddy Roach didn’t for Halifax.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by houseboy » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:01 pm
I saw an interview with a goalkeeper recently but can't remember who. He said he always wanted to take one because he felt with all the times he'd kicked a ball upfield suggested he could strike a ball.

A former Burnley striker once told me that strikers are not the best penalty takers because they rarely kick a dead ball in a match,
Good point. I’d agree with that. Do midfielders take most direct free kicks? I think they do.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:49 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:24 pm
Good point. I’d agree with that. Do midfielders take most direct free kicks? I think they do.
They do tend to take the most free kicks but I think Ross Wallace was the last non-striker to take a pen for us.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:49 pm
They do tend to take the most free kicks but I think Ross Wallace was the last non-striker to take a pen for us.
When was that penalty?
Matt Taylor took the one against Leicester in April 2015 so couldn’t have been long after that as Ross left that summer

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by HunterST_BFC » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:28 pm

Pickford lashed a great Pen for England.

I'd have been confident for Heaton to take one.
Pope - it's going over the bar.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:07 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:51 pm
When was that penalty?
Matt Taylor took the one against Leicester in April 2015 so couldn’t have been long after that as Ross left that summer
I’m losing the plot again. Wallace I’m sure was the last non-striker to score a pen for us. Both Arfield & Taylor missed pens in 2014/15.

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by Wirvine » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:26 am

beddie wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:48 pm
I hope not, if it’s Dyche it’s nailed on to go over the bar. :lol:
Beddie

I can think of at least nine other people that don't think you are qualified to talk about taking penalties. :D

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by claretblue » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:50 am

HunterST_BFC wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:28 pm
Pickford lashed a great Pen for England.

I'd have been confident for Heaton to take one.
Pope - it's going over the bar.
more likely out for throw! :?

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Re: Penalty Shoot Out question

Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:23 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:27 pm
Think the other team has to leave one player out to make it even.
But why should it be 'evened up'? The whole point of sending a player off is to penalise the player and their team in that match for a serious rule infringement; a penalty shoot-out is part of the match.

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