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Re: Roberts

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:01 pm

corporal jones wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:00 pm
Trust Sean. After all he was bang on the money with Challobah. Oh hang on he is in the Chelsea first team now!
Different chalobah haha

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Re: Roberts

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:09 pm

I’ve not been able to use this for too long. Re: Riley, well done sir.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:09 pm

corporal jones wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:00 pm
Trust Sean. After all he was bang on the money with Challobah. Oh hang on he is in the Chelsea first team now!
LOLZ

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Re: Roberts

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:16 pm

Given his throw in capabilities I'm surprised we've not seen him when we are chasing games
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Re: Roberts

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Had Lowton not been fit to play Roberts would have played. Dyche is just managing his subs bench to keep everyone involved. He's done it previously with Bards and Pieters where one was on the bench one week and the other the next

One of our weaknesses in recent years is having to bring players when we are desperate rather than bringing players in the squad and being able to ease them in like we did with Pope, Taylor, Tarks and Westwood.

Being able to bring in quality players like Collins and Roberts and having the luxury to ease them in and make them earn their spot shows signs of progress under Mr Pace
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Re: Roberts

Post by RVclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:40 pm

corporal jones wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:00 pm
Trust Sean. After all he was bang on the money with Challobah. Oh hang on he is in the Chelsea first team now!
Oh dear
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Re: Roberts

Post by rufus lumley » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:49 pm

He is busy at the moment trying to convince Nandos to open a branch in Burnley .Hopefully they will make a decision soon so he can get back to playing football.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:49 pm

Dyche also responsible for releasing Brady who’s career is still flourishing at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Re: Roberts

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:49 pm
Dyche also responsible for releasing Brady who’s career is still flourishing at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
:lol:

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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:04 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:49 pm
Dyche also responsible for releasing Brady who’s career is still flourishing at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Dyche also responsible for not signing Jack Wilshere whose career is flourishing in the TV studio while contemplating retirement.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:18 pm

If fit, I would have no hesitation in playing Roberts in a midfield role against Spurs. We need to try something different.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:20 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Dyche also responsible for not signing Jack Wilshere whose career is flourishing in the TV studio while contemplating retirement.
Wilshere is better than any of our CMs
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Re: Roberts

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:22 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:18 pm
If fit, I would have no hesitation in playing Roberts in a midfield role against Spurs. We need to try something different.
One defeat in seven doesn’t suggest that we need to resort to something as desperate as giving a right back his Premier League debut in midfield.

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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:20 pm
Wilshere is better than any of our CMs
No he isn't.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Targetman » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:20 pm
Wilshere is better than any of our CMs

Wilshere is rarely fit enough to play.

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Re: Roberts

Post by rats » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:26 pm

Dale stephens looks happy in those red seats

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Re: Roberts

Post by Rombald » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:20 pm
Wilshere is better than any of our CMs
Must be why there's such a queue for him

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Re: Roberts

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:30 pm

rats wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:26 pm
Dale stephens looks happy in those red seats
I’d forgotten he even plays for us.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:38 pm

rats wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:26 pm
Dale stephens looks happy in those red seats
He’s the new Joe Hart, hated by Burnley fans for absolutely no reason…
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Re: Roberts

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:06 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:22 pm
One defeat in seven doesn’t suggest that we need to resort to something as desperate as giving a right back his Premier League debut in midfield.
Two wins in almost a calendar year suggests we need to resort to something.

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Re: Roberts

Post by RVclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:20 pm
Wilshere is better than any of our CMs
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Roberts

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:09 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:06 pm
Two wins in almost a calendar year suggests we need to resort to something.
Maybe we do need to resort to something, but that doesn’t mean just anything. I’ve seen suggestions to play Roberts and Lowton in CM today which is just bonkers regardless of how many games we’ve won this year.

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Re: Roberts

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:13 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:38 pm
He’s the new Joe Hart, hated by Burnley fans for absolutely no reason…
Hated is way over the top.
In truth Dale Stephens has, to date, been a waste of money and a squad number (through no fault of his own) but I don't think anyone hates him

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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:13 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:06 pm
Two wins in almost a calendar year suggests we need to resort to something.
But the last four games suggests we don't which is more relevant
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Re: Roberts

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:13 pm

At least you now admit, Riley bobs, that we need to resort to something.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:16 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:13 pm
At least you now admit, Riley bobs, that we need to resort to something.
Not really. I think we’re doing ok this season but clearly the results need to improve. I just think that is less likely to happen by shoving a right back who has never played for us into the centre of our midfield than sticking to our tried and tested methods.
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Re: Roberts

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:29 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:13 pm
But the last four games suggests we don't which is more relevant
The last four games we have had Cornet who has lifted the squad. I’m more concerned about the 30 odd league games we played before that this year, where we have achieved two league wins at home. Also, last season, if my memory serves me, we won away at zLiverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Wolves, 12 massive points which we not going to get this year.
I still think we can stay up but we need two or three players of similar quality to Cornet in January, mainly in midfield.

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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:34 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:29 pm
The last four games we have had Cornet who has lifted the squad. I’m more concerned about the 30 odd league games we played before that this year, where we have achieved two league wins at home. Also, last season, if my memory serves me, we won away at zLiverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Wolves, 12 massive points which we not going to get this year.
I still think we can stay up but we need two or three players of similar quality to Cornet in January, mainly in midfield.
Why are you more concerned about games last season than the most recent games this season, particularly when the latter includes players who weren't here last season? We do need need strengthen which is a separate point to resorting to something different when in fact we are on a decent run.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:36 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:34 pm
Why are you more concerned about games last season than the most recent games this season, particularly when the latter includes players who weren't here last season? We do need need strengthen which is a separate point to resorting to something different when in fact we are on a decent run.
Isn’t Vino just highlighting that are our poor run from last season has continued into this?

We have played 12 games this season and won once
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Re: Roberts

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:38 pm

We don’t have Westwood and Tarks against Spurs so we have to do something different. Just bringing Cork back into a midfield which is already poor doesn’t fill me with any confidence whatsoever.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Spijed » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:39 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:29 pm
Also, last season, if my memory serves me, we won away at zLiverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Wolves, 12 massive points which we not going to get this year.
We've effectively cancelled out one of the defeats to Everton & Liverpool by getting draws away to Leicester, Southampton & Chelsea. Something we didn't do last season.

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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:36 pm
Isn’t Vino just highlighting that are our poor run from last season has continued into this?

We have played 12 games this season and won once
No he's suggesting we need to try something different. Im saying that's probably not necessary given our recent turn of form, and I don't believe last season's games provide any justification for resorting to something else. Especially when will be forced into changes next weekend.

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Re: Roberts

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:40 pm

Back to Roberts.
My guess is that SD is showing respect to Bardsley, who has been totally professional and reliable for us, rather than anything against Roberts.
If Roberts and Bardsley are alternating on the bench that's fine. On current form Lowton has the RB slot.
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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:42 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:38 pm
We don’t have Westwood and Tarks against Spurs so we have to do something different. Just bringing Cork back into a midfield which is already poor doesn’t fill me with any confidence whatsoever.
Even more reason not to resort to something different. Collins and Cork should come in. You aren't actually suggesting Roberts should play centre mid are you?
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Re: Roberts

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:44 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:40 pm
No he's suggesting we need to try something different. Im saying that's probably not necessary given our recent turn of form, and I don't believe last season's games provide any justification for resorting to something else. Especially when will be forced into changes next weekend.
Exactly, and I wouldn’t mind trying to see Roberts given a chance in midfield rather than bring Cork who is in awful form at the moment, into a poor midfield.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Spijed » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:44 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:36 pm
Isn’t Vino just highlighting that are our poor run from last season has continued into this?

We have played 12 games this season and won once
Isn't it fair to say that had Maxwel Cornet been available from the very start of the season we probably would have got more points against the likes of Brighton, Leeds & Norwich (Hamstring injury)

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Re: Roberts

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:47 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:44 pm
Isn't it fair to say that had Maxwel Cornet been available from the very start of the season we probably would have got more points against the likes of Brighton, Leeds & Norwich (Hamstring injury)
Cornet has been great but he is only one Player.

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Re: Roberts

Post by taio » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:49 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:44 pm
Exactly, and I wouldn’t mind trying to see Roberts given a chance in midfield rather than bring Cork who is in awful form at the moment, into a poor midfield.
There's absolutely no chance Roberts would or should play in centre mid next weekend.

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Re: Roberts

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:50 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:44 pm
Isn't it fair to say that had Maxwel Cornet been available from the very start of the season we probably would have got more points against the likes of Brighton, Leeds & Norwich (Hamstring injury)
Obviously there's no way of knowing that for sure.
I would also suggest looking at Cornet's over-all match stats before assuming that his goals are earning us extra points.

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Re: Roberts

Post by dougcollins » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:53 pm

Lowts was a long way off his best yesterday.

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Re: Roberts

Post by warksclaret » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:13 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:44 pm
Isn't it fair to say that had Maxwel Cornet been available from the very start of the season we probably would have got more points against the likes of Brighton, Leeds & Norwich (Hamstring injury)
I am with you on this. He produces at telling moments and I dread where we would be without his goals. Our recent form (one defeat in 7) has a lot to do with this guy

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Re: Roberts

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:39 am

Roberts played as a wing back at Swansea so I don’t get this “oh yeah let’s play someone out of position at RM” stance when that’s exactly what we’ve done with Hendrick, Brownhill, Benson, Pieters, etc in the past.

It’s hardly a strange step up.

I would have played him there on Saturday instead of JBG as an added foil against Zaha who routinely has had Lowts on toast over the years.

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Re: Roberts

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:54 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:12 am
Dyche is definitely showing Roberts who is boss. When Roberts signed I seem to remember him saying something about how he wanted to be our player manager and he didn’t respect Dyche’s authority.

Probably only on here would you get that believed :D

It is like fishing with a hand grenade
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Re: Roberts

Post by Hipper » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:56 am

Didn’t Roberts himself say when he signed something along the lines of “I’m not the best but I will the truth the hardest”.
Surely that's more likely a quote from Cornet via some online translator.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:09 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:30 pm
I’d forgotten he even plays for us.
So has he!

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Re: Roberts

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:12 am

Hipper wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:55 am
Surely that's more likely a quote from Cornet via some online translator.
Just rewatched it.

“I won’t be the best player on the pitch but I will run the most and give everything”

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Re: Roberts

Post by Ric_C » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:45 am

Yes we have only won once, but the performances in the main have been pretty good.

Cornet's only played half the games so far
Refs have given us sweet FA this season
We've not been very lucky in general
Performances are steadily improving

As for Roberts, I'm also a bit baffled as to why he's not on the bench, I get the loyalty angle, but surely if he's fit and good enough we should be investing in the players who are going to help us in the future rather than trying to keep a player happy who is leaving at the end of this season?

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Re: Roberts

Post by beeholeclaret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:08 pm

I was told after the game that he had picked up an injury late in the Wales v Belgium game and therefore was not considered fit enough to be on the bench. I like many others above was hoping to see him on the right flank at some stage versus Palace.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:09 pm
Maybe we do need to resort to something, but that doesn’t mean just anything. I’ve seen suggestions to play Roberts and Lowton in CM today which is just bonkers regardless of how many games we’ve won this year.
if you watch Wales he plays very much more as an attacking wide player than a full back, even against Belgium he arrived in and around the 6 yard box 3 or 4 times. He has the ability to do it for sure.

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Re: Roberts

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:27 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:21 pm
if you watch Wales he plays very much more as an attacking wide player than a full back, even against Belgium he arrived in and around the 6 yard box 3 or 4 times. He has the ability to do it for sure.
I believe there are suggestions to play him in the centre of midfield.

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