£7m in January he reckons

Good luck to them. There will of course be a figure where it would be in our best interests to cash in and put towards strengthening the squad, but £7m isn’t it.

That’s £7m minus Brentfords cut. He’s having a larf.

Imagine any bid now is just token to demonstrate to the player that they’ve held a long term interest come summer.

minnieclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:43 pm

That’s £7m minus Brentfords cut. He’s having a larf.

I don't think Brentford would get a cut from that. Not enough to affect the decision, anyway. How much did we pay for him?

dsr wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:00 am

I don't think Brentford would get a cut from that. Not enough to affect the decision, anyway. How much did we pay for him?

They would get a cut, it's more than we paid for him.

We don't need to sell and we know their new shareholder is loaded.

Bidding starts at £30 million.

Tarks ain't gonna rock the boat now and demand to leave when he can go in the summer for free and get a larger signing on fee.

no chance he goes for 7 million

Counter offer from us of “£98m and he’s yours, whilst we’re both being silly”.

Hopefully They get into a bidding war with Newcastle. Wonder if he would still go to Newcastle if they are still at the bottom.

dsr wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:00 am

I don't think Brentford would get a cut from that. Not enough to affect the decision, anyway. How much did we pay for him?

We paid £3.6M plus add ons.

Unfortunately they’ll probably get him for around £10/12 million. Peanuts considering not that long ago he was probably worth double that and more.

He will probably go for 10m if they offer it.

Be a shame but I guess we have had our moneys worth out of Tarks

Get him sold and get Roberts in

15m plus extensive add ons (CL qualification etc) and I’ll shake Moyes hand, likewise Tarkys.

I have heard (do not shoot the messenger) that we have enquired for Eric Bailly on loan from Man United for January. The person who told me this is not a liar, and he only says stuff on very rare occasions (and has a decent record too). It was knocked back due to Ole being on the verge at the time, but maybe this would be revisited.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:53 am

15m plus extensive add ons (CL qualification etc) and I’ll shake Moyes hand, likewise Tarkys.

I have heard (do not shoot the messenger) that we have enquired for Eric Bailly on loan from Man United for January. The person who told me this is not a liar, and he only says stuff on very rare occasions (and has a decent record too). It was knocked back due to Ole being on the verge at the time, but maybe this would be revisited.

Would make sense since he is friends with Cornet

Not our decision though, is it?

Why would Tarks go somewhere in January when he’ll have his choice of teams in the summer and could pocket the fee we’d receive?

Does local cricketer know roberts just a thought utc

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:42 am

Get him sold and get Roberts in

Who?

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:14 am

Who?

Graham or Connor I can’t decide yet

Pantomime season approaching…….

I questioned what I thought on another thread when some were saying we'd need north of £20 million to consider Tarks going in January. Not a chance, I'd expect £7-8 million and imo I think the club would take it.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:10 am

Not our decision though, is it?

Why would Tarks go somewhere in January when he’ll have his choice of teams in the summer and could pocket the fee we’d receive?

Will he get a better offer than West Ham if he waits till the summer though? Not sure he would, it might be in his interest to move in case they move their attention to somebody else.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:42 am

Get him sold and get Roberts in

So this lad Roberts can play RB, WR, CM and now CB

And our manager doesn't think he's yet good enough to start anywhere

As for the £7m, I would have thought that would be the kind of figure JT would be looking at for himself as a signing on deal in a summer move

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:38 am

So this lad Roberts can play RB, WR, CM and now CB

And our manager doesn't think he's yet good enough to start anywhere

As for the £7m, I would have thought that would be the kind of figure JT would be looking at for himself as a signing on deal in a summer move

He can play anywhere can the lad. If Pope got injured I’d have no problem with him taking the gloves plus he could play up top. A right footed Cornet

15m +Dawson ( cover for Mee and Collins ) .

Yarmelenko and £12m and with Collins in a good idea.But I would knock back any thoughts of Bailley in.

4 tomatoes and bit of juice hope that brings us a win utc

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:34 am

Will he get a better offer than West Ham if he waits till the summer though? Not sure he would, it might be in his interest to move in case they move their attention to somebody else.

If he was set on West Ham, that’s the only risk. I’m sure he’d get over it with a massive signing on fee/wage hike elsewhere though! At this stage of his career, I’d imagine he’ll want to maximise the best possible financial outcome and that won’t be by leaving for a fee in January to any club.

And from our perspective, is £7m worth risking the £80m or so you lose from relegation? A resounding no from me.

As an aside, because my point is generic to any club, but it also doesn’t make much sense for West Ham. Their injury is to Ogbonna, a LCB. Zouma can play there but it’s not his best position. Moyes also has Dawson as RCB cover. Signing a LCB to cover the ACL-injured 33yo, who may never return to previous fitness/form, rather than a 3rd RCB, would make much more sense to me.

But... But.. Tarks is slow and clumsy and nowhere near good enough to challenge Mings or slab head for the England gig. I've read all about it on here.

Yet a very experienced manager of a side in the top 4 is trying to sign him. Moyes needs to wise up and read this forum.

Getting Dawson in return wouldn't be a bad idea as back up for Collins/Mee

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:20 am

But... But.. Tarks is slow and clumsy and nowhere near good enough to challenge Mings or slab head for the England gig. I've read all about it on here.

Yet a very experienced manager of a side in the top 4 is trying to sign him. Moyes needs to wise up and read this forum.

The overwhelming majority on here believe Tarkowski has been brilliant for us and is good enough to play for a bigger club. Disregard the views of a very small minority who get pleasure out of being negative at every juncture. Tarkowski will be a big miss.

Not sure he'd want to move back down to London.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:38 am

The overwhelming majority on here believe Tarkowski has been brilliant for us and is good enough to play for a bigger club. Disregard the views of a very small minority who get pleasure out of being negative at every juncture. Tarkowski will be a big miss.

Agreed...... He's been absolutely massive for us, and as good as anything that's been in the England team of late.

We’ll see how we miss Tarkowski later today!

Longsidelenny1882 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:57 am

4 tomatoes and bit of juice hope that brings us a win utc

He's worth six tomatoes and two cartons of juice at the very least.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:41 am

Agreed...... He's been absolutely massive for us, and as good as anything that's been in the England team of late.

No he really hasn’t,

Fantastic player for us but West Ham is probably his level. Playing European football will probably be a step too far for him.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:38 am

The overwhelming majority on here believe Tarkowski has been brilliant for us and is good enough to play for a bigger club. Disregard the views of a very small minority who get pleasure out of being negative at every juncture. Tarkowski will be a big miss.

Tbf Collins has looked very good when he's played and looks to have huge potential.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:29 am

Getting Dawson in return wouldn't be a bad idea as back up for Collins/Mee

Think he’s still used there but yeah someone like him on the cheap would be good. Possibly Phil Jones? That way the £8m or so we make on Tarks (if we could get circa £10-12m) can be put towards a new starting central midfielder.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:58 am

Tbf Collins has looked very good when he's played and looks to have huge potential.

Yes he has but that doesn't change any of the points I made.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:53 am

No he really hasn’t,

Fantastic player for us but West Ham is probably his level. Playing European football will probably be a step too far for him.

West Ham are playing European football this season and look likely to be next season as well.

His agent will be in his ear now BEGGING him not to sign for anyone in January…. He will want his big chunk of the massive signing on fee that would be incoming.

But even if offers do come in, the club would be daft to consider owt less than £12m even tho we are in no position to bargain. I suppose they can offer and we can accept but if big Jim says no, he doesn’t go, or will he have to go? Not sure how much say he will have tbh.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:20 am

But... But.. Tarks is slow and clumsy and nowhere near good enough to challenge Mings or slab head for the England gig. I've read all about it on here.

Yet a very experienced manager of a side in the top 4 is trying to sign him. Moyes needs to wise up and read this forum.

West Ham trying to get Tarks on the cheap for under £10m is not an endorsement in any way that he is better than either Maguire and Mings.

I think a move to a team like West Ham or Leicester will give him a chance to show there's a lot more to his game than he gets to show playing the way Burnley do. If he was a couple of years younger I could see him possibly breaking in to the England squad as a regular member (though not a starter)

He's been immense for us and I think he will do well wherever he goes but no way is Tarks close to being as good as Maguire and if Maguire had 6 months left on his contract and was wanting a move then Moyes and bigger and better teams would be looking to offer a lot more than £7m to get his signature

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:17 am

West Ham trying to get Tarks on the cheap for under £10m is not an endorsement in any way that he is better than either Maguire and Mings.

I think a move to a team like West Ham or Leicester will give him a chance to show there's a lot more to his game than he gets to show playing the way Burnley do. If he was a couple of years younger I could see him possibly breaking in to the England squad as a regular member (though not a starter)

He's been immense for us and I think he will do well wherever he goes but no way is Tarks close to being as good as Maguire and if Maguire had 6 months left on his contract and was wanting a move then Moyes and bigger and better teams would be looking to offer a lot more than £7m to get his signature

He hasn't proven to be as good as most of the England team's centre halves and certainly not in the way Southgate wants his team to play, but West Ham aren't just interested in because he may be a cheap signing.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:29 am

Getting Dawson in return wouldn't be a bad idea as back up for Collins/Mee

Terrible idea,
Another ageing bench warmer?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:38 am

Terrible idea,
Another ageing bench warmer?

He'd still be a good signing and would be a neat fit for Dyche.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:38 am

Terrible idea,
Another ageing bench warmer?

Well we ain't going to be spending another £10-15 million on a replacement for Collins as we'd expect him to be our first choice for a couple of seasons at least.

What choice do we have?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:43 am

Well we ain't going to be spending another £10-15 million on a replacement for Collins as we'd expect him to be our first choice for a couple of seasons at least.

What choice do we have?

This is a constant (problem) for us now.
There is no future or profit in bringing in 30+ year-olds as cover, however it seems to be the only way we can pad out the squad.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:28 am

He hasn't proven to be as good as most of the England team's centre halves and certainly not in the way Southgate wants his team to play, but West Ham aren't just interested in because he may be a cheap signing.

I never said thats just why they are interested but I was responding to fatboys comment that implied Moyes wanting to sign Tarks had a bearing on peoples views that Tarks isn't as good as Mings or Maguire.

Maguire is a better centre half than Tarks and thats why a team like Leicester who would be a great step up for Tarks couldnt keep hold of him

There's over the top on both sides with idiotic comments about Tarks being just good enough for Burnley and our system and idiotic comments that Tarks should be playing for England and that Maguire is rubbish.

I thought my post was pretty fairly balanced but of course people are free to disagree

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:55 am

I never said thats just why they are interested but I was responding to fatboys comment that implied Moyes wanting to sign Tarks had a bearing on peoples views that Tarks isn't as good as Mings or Maguire.

Maguire is a better centre half than Tarks and thats why a team like Leicester who would be a great step up for Tarks couldnt keep hold of him

There's over the top on both sides with idiotic comments about Tarks being just good enough for Burnley and our system and idiotic comments that Tarks should be playing for England and that Maguire is rubbish.

I thought my post was pretty fairly balanced but of course people are free to disagree

Yes it was balanced. I agree Maguire is better than Tarkowski by some distance as is Stones. I do think Tarkowski has been unfortunate not to feature in the Engkand squad more though