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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:25 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:23 pm
This is the attitude that I find baffling.

It's as if people have been conditioned to accept any kind of restriction if there is any kind of suspected "risk".

Many on here have agreed with me - the referee should have at least waited before calling the game off.

Certainly I've been a outlier and a bit of a black sheep all my life but to see people on here (yourself included) claim it was the correct call is like watching people all agreeing that 2+2=5

Some of them, notably Lancaster, John McGreal and -to a lesser extent- fidelcastro, are at least partially trying to wind me up and imagining it will make me angry but it doesn't; it's bread and butter to me.

2+2=4

The game today should have gone ahead.
I truly hope you are laughing at much as we are at this thread Rowls

I really do hope you are not taking it as seriously as the complete weapons did!

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:25 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:24 pm
The pitch was perfectly playable. That's the point.
No it wasn’t.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Leisure » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:26 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:42 pm
Not an hour before kick off no.
What about before an hour before ko?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:28 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:26 pm
What about before an hour before ko?
Nope.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:29 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:21 pm
You are good at this, and its been fun, but you've now managed to get the support of the proper out there personalities of the board behind you

Are you sure you really want that?
haha well although my previous post comes after yours (above) I was writing it before reading the above so quelle surprise.

As for what you've written above, I genuinely don't know what you're on about in terms of "proper out there personalities".

But no, I don't alter my opinions depending on who may or may not agree with me so I am not at all bothered. I wouldn't give two hoots if Tony Blair or Nigel Farage agreed with me.

That's not why I hold my beliefs. I hold my beliefs because I have conviction in them (mostly).

If you alter your beliefs depending on who may support you or agree with you then that's your prerogative.

Maybe that's why you decided it was perfectly fine to call off a football match under sunny blue skies because of "adverse weather" and see no problem in it all.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:29 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:24 pm
The pitch was perfectly playable. That's the point.
How would you know that from the other side of the channel?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:30 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:25 pm
No it wasn’t.
The snow had dropped off markedly by the scheduled kick off.

If the kick off had been delayed by just 30 minutes the pitch could have been cleared and the game would have kicked off under clear blue skies and sunshine.

It was a ridiculous decision to call the game off given these facts. There are photos of the blue skies and sunshine on this thread.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:31 pm

But the grid-lock outside the stadium afterwards on the way home shows how much congestion there could’ve been before the game.

Even Spurs arrived late.

Then after all the footfall, when all the slush freezes up, leaving the game could’ve been very dangerous too.

I remember a match against Peterborough about ten years ago and there was heavy snow fell just before the match was finishing. It took me about 4 hours to get back to Rawtenstall. The roads where treacherous.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:32 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:29 pm
How would you know that from the other side of the channel?
I know people who were there and I've seen photos of the town at the time and we all know the under soil heating was on.

The pitch would have been playable just as the game at the Etihad was. In fact, Turf Moor would have had much more favourable conditions because the worst of the brief snow had passed before the scheduled kick off.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:32 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:29 pm
haha well although my previous post comes after yours (above) I was writing it before reading the above so quelle surprise.

As for what you've written above, I genuinely don't know what you're on about in terms of "proper out there personalities".

But no, I don't alter my opinions depending on who may or may not agree with me so I am not at all bothered. I wouldn't give two hoots if Tony Blair or Nigel Farage agreed with me.

That's not why I hold my beliefs. I hold my beliefs because I have conviction in them (mostly).

If you alter your beliefs depending on who may support you or agree with you then that's your prerogative.

Maybe that's why you decided it was perfectly fine to call off a football match under sunny blue skies because of "adverse weather" and see no problem in it all.
If you continue to ignore the fact that the match wasn’t called off ‘under sunny blue skies’ you’ve lost the argument really.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:33 pm

On first on MOTD2!!! It’s a first.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:33 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:31 pm
But the grid-lock outside the stadium afterwards on the way home shows how much congestion there couldn’t been before the game.

Even Spurs arrived late.

Then after all the footfall, when all the slush freezes up, leaving the game could’ve been very dangerous too.

I remember a match against Peterborough about ten years ago and there was heavy snow fell just before the match was finishing. It took me about 4 hours to get back to Rawtenstall. The roads where treacherous.
Yes but that's not the criteria for calling the game off.

Not for the referee at least.

Besides which, Turf Moor and Burnley was difficult before the match because that's when it was snowing.

The best thing the ref could have done in terms of the traffic was to play the game and allow the weather to subside and the roads to clear a bit.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:34 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:29 pm
haha well although my previous post comes after yours (above) I was writing it before reading the above so quelle surprise.

As for what you've written above, I genuinely don't know what you're on about in terms of "proper out there personalities".

But no, I don't alter my opinions depending on who may or may not agree with me so I am not at all bothered. I wouldn't give two hoots if Tony Blair or Nigel Farage agreed with me.

That's not why I hold my beliefs. I hold my beliefs because I have conviction in them (mostly).

If you alter your beliefs depending on who may support you or agree with you then that's your prerogative.

Maybe that's why you decided it was perfectly fine to call off a football match under sunny blue skies because of "adverse weather" and see no problem in it all.
Well, as I was at the Accrington junction when it was called off, and it got noticeably worse between there and the turn off for Hapton I don't have a problem with it

And I think you know by now that my beliefs don't alter at all either, and that I give less than two hoots what other people on here (especially the ones who have, er, interesting views) think

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:34 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:32 pm
I know people who were there and I've seen photos of the town at the time and we all know the under soil heating was on.

The pitch would have been playable just as the game at the Etihad was. In fact, Turf Moor would have had much more favourable conditions because the worst of the brief snow had passed before the scheduled kick off.
Were these people you know on the pitch testing the surface because the man who called it off was.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:35 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:32 pm
If you continue to ignore the fact that the match wasn’t called off ‘under sunny blue skies’ you’ve lost the argument really.
It's never clear whether you're on the wind up or not martin?

I haven't said what you've claimed.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:36 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:34 pm
Were these people you know on the pitch testing the surface because the man who called it off was.
Do you think the pitch was frozen? Even though the undersoil heating has been on for three days and it's barely been below freezing?

The pitch would have been as playable as any other game that was on today. It would have been much better conditions than the Etihad which got the same snow flurry just a few minutes afterwards.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:36 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:30 pm
The snow had dropped off markedly by the scheduled kick off.

If the kick off had been delayed by just 30 minutes the pitch could have been cleared and the game would have kicked off under clear blue skies and sunshine.

It was a ridiculous decision to call the game off given these facts. There are photos of the blue skies and sunshine on this thread.
The sh1tstorm it left behind hadn’t, cars were skidding about right left & centre & after the match the temps were dropping as darkness was falling a very dangerous combination.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Leisure » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:37 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:28 pm
Nope.
So the covers wouldn't have kept the snow off the pitch at all???

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:38 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:36 pm
The sh1tstorm it left behind hadn’t, cars were skidding about right left & centre & after the match the temps were dropping as darkness was falling a very dangerous combination.
Exactly. If there had been a 90 minute spectacle of sport in clear skies in between parking up and leaving then it would actually have been easier to get away.

Edit - but of course, this isn't the reason the game was called off.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:39 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:34 pm
Well, as I was at the Accrington junction when it was called off, and it got noticeably worse between there and the turn off for Hapton I don't have a problem with it

And I think you know by now that my beliefs don't alter at all either, and that I give less than two hoots what other people on here (especially the ones who have, er, interesting views) think
I came in via the M66 but went home via the M65 and it was amazing how localised the bad weather was. Coming in there was very light snow at the Manchester end of the M66 which started to get heavy from Bury northwards and was at its worst in Burnley. Travelling west on the way back there was barely anything beyond Blackburn.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:41 pm

It had completely gone by the time we reached Blackburn Services

Took the eldest for a Maccy Ds and when we came out it was really snowing heavily, but it had gone by the time we hit Preston, and it was bright sunlight all the way up the M6

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:41 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:38 pm
Exactly. If there had been a 90 minute spectacle of sport in clear skies in between parking up and leaving then it would actually have been easier to get away.

Edit - but of course, this isn't the reason the game was called off.
It’s public liability within the stadium you have to make sure every single exposed area is gritted & free from any slip hazards, you have a duty of care for everybody claims would have been going in without doubt.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:42 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:36 pm
Do you think the pitch was frozen? Even though the undersoil heating has been on for three days and it's barely been below freezing?

The pitch would have been as playable as any other game that was on today. It would have been much better conditions than the Etihad which got the same snow flurry just a few minutes afterwards.
I think the pitch was unplayable because the man with all the information (more than you or me) to make the decision said so. There was no reason for him to postpone if it had been playable.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:44 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:41 pm
It’s public liability within the stadium you have to make sure every single exposed area is gritted & free from any slip hazards, you have a duty of care for everybody claims would have been going in without doubt.
None of this relevant.

Game called off by the ref because of the rate the snow was falling.

As martin as pointed out above - it was incredibly localised. Ie. If he'd waited 15 minutes he'd have noticed the conditions improving considerably. If he'd waited a bit longer he'd have realised what an error it was to call the game off.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by DCWat » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:45 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:21 pm
Football fans shouldn’t come into a decision on whether a pitch is fit for a game.
Given the forecast, it wasn’t beyond the realms of possibility that the game could have gone ahead. However, there needs to be a limit on how long after the scheduled kick off the game can be delayed for.

I’d say that anything up to an hour is acceptable, anything more is not. It could be argued that delays of more than an hour are not considering fans equally as much as with a postponement an hour before kick off.

If I remember rightly, the snow was due to stop between two and three, which if this was the case, I now think that the right decision was made.

From the snow stopping to it being cleared, it would have been two plus hours after the scheduled start time. It’s just too long, particularly for those who have a long journey home and / or planned travel arrangements.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:46 pm

Image

Blue sky and sunshine at 2:32pm (or earlier, that's when jdrobbo posted this image on twitter)

This is what the conditions were when the weather was judged to be too "risky" to play football.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:47 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:44 pm
None of this relevant.

Game called off by the ref because of the rate the snow was falling.

As martin as pointed out above - it was incredibly localised. Ie. If he'd waited 15 minutes he'd have noticed the conditions improving considerably. If he'd waited a bit longer he'd have realised what an error it was to call the game off.
Believe me it’s anything but irrelevant you only need 1 person to fall & break their neck & it’s a massive claim, it wasn’t 100% safe for anybody the players the fans everybody was at risk attending.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm

I was physically there, as I was leaving - walking pitchside I said the the guys I was working with, ‘nah, they couldn’t be played in this.’

At 12:40, it hadn’t crossed my mind that the game would be postponed. It was only when I saw loads of people on the pitch trying to clear the deepening snow no avail, then it didn’t come as a surprise when I heard the announcement.

Even if they delayed it, they would've had to remove the snow from the lines in the hope it was going to stop, players wouldn’t have been able to warm up appropriately with Fans congregating in and around the stadium, waiting for news. It would’ve been a shambles. My weather app told me the snow was going to carry on until 5pm

It was the right decision. In my opinion.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:45 pm
Given the forecast, it wasn’t beyond the realms of possibility that the game could have gone ahead. However, there needs to be a limit on how long after the scheduled kick off the game can be delayed for.

I’d say that anything up to an hour is acceptable, anything more is not. It could be argued that delays of more than an hour are not considering fans equally as much as with a postponement an hour before kick off.

If I remember rightly, the snow was due to stop between two and three, which if this was the case, I now think that the right decision was made.

From the snow stopping to it being cleared, it would have been two plus hours after the scheduled start time. It’s just too long, particularly for those who have a long journey home and / or planned travel arrangements.
See post above. That pitch would have been playable any time after 2pm if they'd just carried on clearing the snow and the ref had been wise enough to delay his decision.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:42 pm
I think the pitch was unplayable because the man with all the information (more than you or me) to make the decision said so. There was no reason for him to postpone if it had been playable.
This is pretty much it in a nutshell. How can anyone say with 100% conviction that the game should have gone ahead without being on the pitch before the scheduled kick off?! The referee had a lot more information to hand than any of us fans, so it is sheer arrogance to claim so confidently that the referee made the wrong call.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:46 pm
Image

Blue sky and sunshine at 2:32pm (or earlier, that's when jdrobbo posted this image on twitter)

This is what the conditions were when the weather was judged to be too "risky" to play football.
No it isn’t! The game was called off 80-90 minutes before this photo was taken. If you can’t get the basic facts right…..!

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Claretnick » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:51 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:30 pm

The snow had dropped off markedly by the scheduled kick off.

If the kick off had been delayed by just 30 minutes the pitch could have been cleared and the game would have kicked off under clear blue skies and sunshine.

It was a ridiculous decision to call the game off given these facts. There are photos of the blue skies and sunshine on this thread.
Have you given any allowance for the time needed to prepare the pitch after the snow had stopped? How long do you think the groundstaff would have needed to firstly get the pitch ready for both teams to carry out their warm up routines and to get it ready for the game. I imagine both teams would have wanted to use the maximum of 30 minutes to warm up. Looks like a 3:00pm delayed start might have been tricky, so a 3:30pm ko would have been 90 minutes after the scheduled start, that's a long time to be hanging around in a freezing cold stadium with nothing happening football wise.

Just of interest the temperature today rarely got above freezing it was -3 in Colne at 5:00pm and is now -6 outside.

I think the referee had a difficult decision to make and probably was on a no winner no matter which decision he made.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:52 pm

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Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm
I was physically there, as I was leaving - walking pitchside I said the the guys I was working with, ‘nah, they couldn’t be played in this.’

At 12:40, it hadn’t crossed my mind that the game would be postponed. It was only when I saw loads of people on the pitch trying to clear the deepening snow no avail, then it didn’t come as a surprise when I heard the announcement.

Even if they delayed it, they would've had to remove the snow from the lines in the hope it was going to stop, players wouldn’t have been able to warm up appropriately with Fans congregating in and around the stadium, waiting for news. It would’ve been a shambles. My weather app told me the snow was going to carry on until 5pm

It was the right decision. In my opinion.
No you’re wrong. Rowls knows someone who was in town so knows better.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:53 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm
No it isn’t! The game was called off 80-90 minutes before this photo was taken. If you can’t get the basic facts right…..!
When the referee made the decision to call the game off without waiting to delay and see if the conditions improved he was effectively saying "it's not going to improve".

What I wrote wasn't particularly well expressed but I meant it in the sense of "this is what the weather was when the game was scheduled and the referee had already pre-judged the weather as being too risky".

No, of course it was coming down heavy when he jumped to his rushed decision.

I admit, I'd phrased it poorly but you do rush into a singular reading of things though don't you martin?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by DCWat » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:54 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:48 pm
See post above. That pitch would have been playable any time after 2pm if they'd just carried on clearing the snow and the ref had been wise enough to delay his decision.
It was called off just after 14:00 and the snow was still coming down heavily. Don’t get me wrong, I agree that it could have been played later on, but how long should it be left?

Let’s say it stopped at half two… How long would it take to clear the pitch (30 mins minimum?) and then a warm up period for the players (30 minutes?). So we are looking at a kick off an hour and a half after the scheduled start time, at the earliest.

How long should a game be delayed for, when considering fans is part of the point you’re making?
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:56 pm

Ffs are people still bitching on about this?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by dsr » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:50 pm
No need to do that. Could have just waited a few minutes and made a more informed decision.

Would you have needed a forecast to know that this is a clear blue sky?

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I think this is the post that proves your input to this thread is just trolling. Would you need a forecast, at 1 PM, to know that a picture taken at 2.30 would show a blue sky? Talk about asking a silly question! :lol:

Funny thing is, normally with postponements, the argument is that the match was called off too late and it wasn't fair on the fans. I've never heard a suggestion that the ref should wait until after kickoff time in the hope that the weather forecast, which was wrong about the time and quantity of the snowfall, will be right about when it will stop.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:51 pm
I think the referee had a difficult decision to make and probably was on a no winner no matter which decision he made.
If the referee had been sitting on the crapper for 2 minutes either side of the moment he decided to call it off it wouldn't have been called off.

He saw the snow coming down heavily and must have decided that an eternal winter had begun. He will have left Turf Moor in wonderful winter sunshine.

If he'd had the sense to delay his decision teh game would have been played in perfectly good conditions.

Barely a flake of snow landed on Turf Moor after 2pm. As the photo shows, it was sunnny with clear skies by one third into the scheduled game time.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:53 pm
When the referee made the decision to call the game off without waiting to delay and see if the conditions improved he was effectively saying "it's not going to improve".

What I wrote wasn't particularly well expressed but I meant it in the sense of "this is what the weather was when the game was scheduled and the referee had already pre-judged the weather as being too risky".

No, of course it was coming down heavy when he jumped to his rushed decision.

I admit, I'd phrased it poorly but you do rush into a singular reading of things though don't you martin?
I read what you write. If you mean something else then write something else. Maybe the referee meant to delay the match but said ‘the match is postponed’ and people didn’t read into that statement what he’d meant them to.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:56 pm
Ffs are people still bitching on about this?
I think Rowls has decided to take the longest thread award away from that mad one about words

And I've pledged my soul to aid him!

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:59 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm
I think this is the post that proves your input to this thread is just trolling. Would you need a forecast, at 1 PM, to know that a picture taken at 2.30 would show a blue sky? Talk about asking a silly question! :lol:

Funny thing is, normally with postponements, the argument is that the match was called off too late and it wasn't fair on the fans. I've never heard a suggestion that the ref should wait until after kickoff time in the hope that the weather forecast, which was wrong about the time and quantity of the snowfall, will be right about when it will stop.
Yep but the forecast always said it was just a localised flurry and that's what it was.

You can call a game off too early and you can call a game off too late. If the forecast says the snow is only going to get worse then the sooner you call it off the better.

If the forecast says the snow is going to stop very soon and that clear blue skies are only a few minutes away it would be better to delay making a final decision.

It was clearly the wrong decision.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:59 pm

Just noticed the full stop at the end of the thread title which has unsettled me somewhat.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:00 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:17 pm
So both managers aren’t sensible?

I had to be home by 6pm as my wife was going out, an hour delay wouldn’t have allowed me to do that.
Sounds as though your Mrs was game changer then!

Turf Moor 13.34 pitch side inspection .

Dyche - " Hey Antonio, you do realise Martin's wife is out on the lash tonight, he's gonna be in the dog house if he lands home late"

Conte - " Bloody 'ell ! We can't have her with the face on all night . Ref , scrap this, Martin has to be back for 6 or he'll be on silent dinners for the rest of the bloody week!"

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:00 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm
I think Rowls has decided to take the longest thread award away from that mad one about words

And I've pledged my soul to aid him!
Well that's all fine because you're highly transparent lancs.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by dsr » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:02 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:57 pm
Well, no

I disagree with the likes of Dsr on stuff like Brexit and politics, but we are very much in agreement on how the club is run (well, at least until the takeover)

I disagree with Rowls on this thread because I thought he was being very unfair to the people who made the decision, and I highlighted the other things he's not an expert in to back up my point.

Taio was quite right that I probably shouldn't do that, but I've been arguing with Rowls long enough to know his modus operandi now, and he's got exactly what he wanted out of this thread

And so have I

I wouldn't have a problem with Rowls if I should ever meet him btw

Others on here I would have, and I'm sure they would with me
Politics? What are these things called politics? :?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:02 pm

Bloody hell - doesn't look like they keep orange balls for snow any more?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:45 pm
Lots of people on twitter who are experts in the field of undersoil heating stressing that it works to keep the ground from freezing, but it won't stop heavy snowfall making the pitch unplayable

I think the issue was that you couldn't keep the lines clear, rather than the ground being frozen
Sounds suspiciously like "just a bloke off the internet" that you were dismissing only the other day! 🤣😆😂

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by cbx750 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:05 pm

HELL'S BLOODY BELLS.
Do you lot never tire of chasing each other in circles?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:25 pm
Fair play to Kane
:lol: :lol:
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:06 pm

cbx750 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:05 pm
HELL'S BLOODY BELLS.
Do you lot never tire of chasing each other in circles?
Oh it’s a bit of a laugh that’s all. No harm done.

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