Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:02 pm

Bloody hell - doesn't look like they keep orange balls for snow any more?

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:06 pm

Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:06 pm


I'm loving this, one person sort of logs off, and then another person replaces him

Its like message board relay

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:57 pm



I think Rowls has decided to take the longest thread award away from that mad one about words

And I've pledged my soul to aid him!

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:25 pm

This is going to be like the Adeola thread soon ....

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:17 pm

Half time at Man City was extended by 5 (FIVE) minutes.

It would have take 20 minutes to clear the pitch and play the game today.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:29 pm

Ok I’ll play. I mean you’re completely guessing that the pitch would take 20 minutes to clear (seems like an incredibly short amount of time to clear 7000+ sq.m of snow), but let’s assume you’re correct. What time did the snow stop falling, and with a 20 min pitch clearance and 30 min warm up for the players what is the absolute earliest we could have kicked off?

Then let’s just consider whether it would have been worth asking all supporters to hang around for that period of time in the hope that the game would go ahead. How much criticism would the referee have got had people waited around for 2 hours only for the game to be postponed?

The very fact that Dyche was supportive of this decision, despite playing the game right now most probably giving us an edge, should tell you that your opinion is off the mark, or at best not as clear cut as you’re making it out to be.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:28 pm

I'm done now though.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:32 pm

Sorry Rileybobs, game's over now.

It's too risky to continue. Health and Safety reasons.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:34 pm

You should have waited, you’ll have a blue sky moment of clarity in 90 minutes.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:27 am

not our fault they like getting spanked by Slovenian farmers on a Thursday night

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:25 pm

Mmmmm now let me see, i have read over at least 70 posts on here, and not one of them has said what i am going to say, this match was scheduled for a 2-00pm ko, its not one of Skys live games, so why was the kick off not moved to 3-00pm and like i said its NOT a SKY live match, see if the snow eased off, which it did, then clear the pitch, therefore i think a 3-00pm ko would take place, i live in Surrey, which i am sure is a 528 mile round trip, because i am on my own and am an elderly person i dont do that trip in one day, normally i stay at the PREMIERI INN, so it costs me approx £70 in petrol, about £80 for an overnight stay, 4/5 pints out in Burnley £25, then something to eat,& programme £ 25, then another load of fuel at todays prices to get back to Surrey approx £50, so there you have it, its a lot of miles, money, etc, to travel all that was to find out the bloody match is off....i rest my case, i will be up for the WHU game on dec 11th....any comments are welcome....all they had to do was change the ko to 3-00 why has it to be 2-00 on a Sunday beats me.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:36 am

Don't knock it until you've tried it, Viva!

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:04 pm

I wasn’t suggesting that we should have used them.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:07 pm

Crikey, I hope you get back ok. I don’t feel too miffed now about a couple of train fares. Glad you had a good Saturday evening in Burnley. UTC.

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:34 am

I had a good look at the EPL rule book in .pdf a bit later and under Section L “kickoffs” there is no proviso for “pushing the game back” “waiting a bit” etc etc.

There is 1 proviso for kicking off late which is basically a team getting stuck in traffic. But apart from that, kick off time is kick off time.

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:15 am

Not sure if posted further up but the following was in the Times this morning:

“The referee Peter Bankes has revealed Conte and Dyche were offered the chance to start the game, as ground staff attempted to clear out the marked lines on the pitch, but both thought the possible solution unpractical and unplayable.”

Seems highly unusual that it was the managers who made the decision

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:59 am

Match thread v Spurs (match off) 625 replies and counting

Jimmymaccer wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:58 am

And just to round the day off…….flight back delayed 2 hours, then cancelled! 7am and now sat on plane finally going back to Isle of Man….

Never mind, the joys of a travelling fan! See you at the Turf next time!

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:34 am

I had a good look at the EPL rule book in .pdf a bit later and under Section L “kickoffs” there is no proviso for “pushing the game back” “waiting a bit” etc etc.

There is 1 proviso for kicking off late which is basically a team getting stuck in traffic. But apart from that, kick off time is kick off time.

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:15 am

Not sure if posted further up but the following was in the Times this morning:

“The referee Peter Bankes has revealed Conte and Dyche were offered the chance to start the game, as ground staff attempted to clear out the marked lines on the pitch, but both thought the possible solution unpractical and unplayable.”

Seems highly unusual that it was the managers who made the decision

Loyalclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:06 am

Not that it matters but it is very bad around Turf this morning! Drive down from Pike Hill, main road was OK but the paths are like an ice skating ring. Very icey Leyland Road where I park and all the way into town. Few thousand people mooching about yesterday obviously didn't help

Paul Waine wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:58 am

The full report in The Times.

Burnley v Tottenham: Antonio Conte and Sean Dyche declined chance to play match with stoppages every 15 minutes before postponement
Martin Hardy, Sunday November 28 2021, 4.30pm, The Times

The Tottenham Hotspur manager Antonio Conte and his Burnley counterpart Sean Dyche declined the opportunity for their Premier League game at Turf Moor to be played with stoppages every 15 minutes to clear the amount of snow from the pitch that ultimately led to the game being postponed 45 minutes before kick-off.

Tottenham’s players, fresh from their humiliating Europa Conference League defeat to NS Mura on Thursday, only arrived at the ground an hour before kick-off, as they too had been caught in traffic because of the severity of the snowfall.

The referee Peter Bankes has revealed Conte and Dyche were offered the chance to start the game, as ground staff attempted to clear out the marked lines on the pitch, but both thought the possible solution unpractical and unplayable.

“There was going to be an opportunity to stop the game every 15 minutes but both managers were in agreement that the spectacle wouldn’t have been very good,” Bankes said.

“The ground staff worked as hard as they could. The best thing to do was to call the game off, which we did after speaking to both managers.”

Bankes was unable to make that call until both managers were actually with him, and Dyche then defended the undersoil heating at Turf Moor, which the club have said had been on since Wednesday. Around 40 members of staff were working to clear the snow as it fell heavily for the two hours before its 2pm kick-off time.

“It [the undersoil heating] has been on, it’s just fallen that quick and that heavy, it has just come down too quick for the system to work,” he said.

“We would have had to keep clearing the lines of snow and stopping the game, which the referee explained. It’s a joint club decision from everyone concerned, but there has been a lot of good work from everyone trying to get it on, that’s for sure.

“We were ready for the game and I made it clear if it could be played we wanted it on, as did their manager. I can’t see how it could go ahead the way the pitch is. The pitch re-covers every time they clear it. The referee explained the safety angle as well so it was important to make a decision early.”

Tottenham are now facing a major fixture headache as a result of the late postponement. They have a game in every midweek heading into a typically busy Christmas schedule. Spurs do not have a gap to potentially play the fixture at Turf Moor until January.

Conte agreed, however, that the game could not be played. “I think in these conditions it’s not football,” he said. “I want to play football, I want to have fun, to play and to give emotion. I think in this situation it’s impossible and there is serious risk for the players to take injury.”

Tottenham had sold out their allocation of 2,300 for the game and one Dallas-based supporter had travelled for 30 hours and 4,500 miles to attend the match.

“Would have loved watching it in these conditions,” wrote @SaxyKeN17 on Twitter, having showed details of his trip.

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:25 pm

Mmmmm now let me see, i have read over at least 70 posts on here, and not one of them has said what i am going to say, this match was scheduled for a 2-00pm ko, its not one of Skys live games, so why was the kick off not moved to 3-00pm and like i said its NOT a SKY live match, see if the snow eased off, which it did, then clear the pitch, therefore i think a 3-00pm ko would take place, i live in Surrey, which i am sure is a 528 mile round trip, because i am on my own and am an elderly person i dont do that trip in one day, normally i stay at the PREMIERI INN, so it costs me approx £70 in petrol, about £80 for an overnight stay, 4/5 pints out in Burnley £25, then something to eat,& programme £ 25, then another load of fuel at todays prices to get back to Surrey approx £50, so there you have it, its a lot of miles, money, etc, to travel all that was to find out the bloody match is off....i rest my case, i will be up for the WHU game on dec 11th....any comments are welcome....all they had to do was change the ko to 3-00 why has it to be 2-00 on a Sunday beats me.

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:25 pm

Mmmmm now let me see, i have read over at least 70 posts on here, and not one of them has said what i am going to say, this match was scheduled for a 2-00pm ko, its not one of Skys live games, so why was the kick off not moved to 3-00pm and like i said its NOT a SKY live match, see if the snow eased off, which it did, then clear the pitch, therefore i think a 3-00pm ko would take place, i live in Surrey, which i am sure is a 528 mile round trip, because i am on my own and am an elderly person i dont do that trip in one day, normally i stay at the PREMIERI INN, so it costs me approx £70 in petrol, about £80 for an overnight stay, 4/5 pints out in Burnley £25, then something to eat,& programme £ 25, then another load of fuel at todays prices to get back to Surrey approx £50, so there you have it, its a lot of miles, money, etc, to travel all that was to find out the bloody match is off....i rest my case, i will be up for the WHU game on dec 11th....any comments are welcome....all they had to do was change the ko to 3-00 why has it to be 2-00 on a Sunday beats me.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:56 am

Instead of wasting money on wingers from France, the board should be shot for not installing a retractable roof.

Amateurs.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:13 pm

If the article is correct and there is no reason for it not to be, it actually makes it more of a farce as the forecast was for the snow to stop so there would have been no need to stop every 15 minutes anyway!

dsr wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:39 pm

If they were going off the forecast, they needn't have had a pitch inspection because the forecast was that there wouldn't be much snow anyway.

Or put another way, they can't go off weather forecasts. There was no way the Met Office could say with certainty that Manchester would have heavy snow at three o'clock but Burnley wouldn't. They aren't that accurate.

If the PL and FA and other football authorities choose to give the referee power to delay postponement until the instant of kick-off or even allow then to delay postponement to an hour or two after the scheduled time, then let them do that. At present, they don't, and there would certainly be outcry from clubs and from fans' groups if they did. Would you really want to hang about on a day like yesterday until 3 o'clock just in case the snow stopped? And if it didn't, and the snow was even deeper by then and the roads were closed, what then?

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:10 pm

More unhelpful divisive stuff...as with the OTT responses earlier...

No harm in the club reviewing events and possible future contingencies....eg pitch coverings.. If they deem the situation to have been unavoidable then fair enough..

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:51 pm

Looking forward- do we just accept matches will be off on the Turf if we have snow again or are there solutions to postponing in?
I didn't think we would ever see a Premier league game called off for unfit pitches after Desso pitches came in, with added undersoil heating. But snow is a big problem.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:48 pm

People keep mentioning pitch coverings but I don’t get how they help when there’s heavy snow right up to kick off time.