Tonight's Games

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:00 pm

if we can get a point away at the European Champions then we are more than capable of winning at Wolves and Newcastle

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:01 pm

There is nothing to fear from the four teams that played tonight, and we've already seen at least a couple more that we can beat

But until we actually beat them.....

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Safron » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:17 pm

The only way we have a chance of winning a game is by either keeping clean sheets or by outscoring the opposition, both things we look incapable of of doing at present, something needs to change and very quick .

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:44 pm

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Current Relegation Odds.This will change drastically one way or the other after next few games.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Elizabeth » Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:04 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:00 pm
if we can get a point away at the European Champions then we are more than capable of winning at Wolves and Newcastle
Yes, of course the team have demonstrated that they have the potential to win matches but that is totally different to winning them . One win so far is not good enough .

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by superdimitri » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:45 am

How lucky are Leeds.. again. Irritating. Much more luck end they'll become the new Liverpool.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:18 am

Very much looking like our hopes of staying up are relying on us finishing above Norwich, Newcastle and Watford

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:30 am

I reckon we’ll finish above Brentford for a start. There are at least 6 teams worse than us and every one of them have worse managers. No need to panic as usual.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:34 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:30 am
I reckon we’ll finish above Brentford for a start. There are at least 6 teams worse than us and every one of them have worse managers. No need to panic as usual.
Who are these six? Watford, Newcastle, Norwich and who?

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:36 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:30 am
I reckon we’ll finish above Brentford for a start. There are at least 6 teams worse than us and every one of them have worse managers. No need to panic as usual.
Now that is some serious positivity

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:39 am

Brentford as I mentioned, Palace, Southampton and Leeds. I’d say Villa, Everton, Wolves and even Brighton are about on a par with us. So actually 7.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:41 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:39 am
Brentford as I mentioned, Palace, Southampton and Leeds. I’d say Villa, Everton, Wolves and even Brighton are about on a par with us. So actually 7.
That is truly unbelievable

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:41 am

Believe what you want, you probably believe in Father Christmas

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:43 am

Brentford are awful, and that’s not just based on us easily dispatching them but their general performances so far. They play like a Cup team from the Championship but that energy will diminish. They were incredibly lucky at home against a rank bad Everton who had Richarlison and DCL unavailable.

If we don’t finish above them we deserve to go down.
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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:45 am

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:44 pm
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Current Relegation Odds.This will change drastically one way or the other after next few games.
I doubt they'll change that much, barring some very unexpected results like Watford beating Chelsea and/or Man City.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:47 am

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:43 am
Brentford are awful, and that’s not just based on us easily dispatching them but their general performances so far. They play like a Cup team from the Championship but that energy will diminish. They were incredibly lucky at home against a rank bad Everton who had Richarlison and DCL unavailable.

If we don’t finish above them we deserve to go down.
So you think we will over take them and they will be relegated?

I would be amazed if they don’t finished above 15th this season.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:48 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:41 am
Believe what you want, you probably believe in Father Christmas
I have just never seen anyone so blindly optimistic.

It’s like being in a burning down building and going the decor is nice though.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:52 am

The building has been burning down for 6 seasons and it’s still standing firm with the roof fully on

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:53 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:52 am
The building has been burning down for 6 seasons and it’s still standing firm with the roof fully on
It really hasn’t at all. We have been great in the prem until 2021.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:53 am

1 win in almost 20 league games, we deserve to go down if it happens

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:01 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:53 am
It really hasn’t at all. We have been great in the prem until 2021.
Not true. We were far worse in the Europa season before Christmas than we have been this season.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:11 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:01 am
Not true. We were far worse in the Europa season before Christmas than we have been this season.
Indeed we were. We'd reached the half point at 19 matches on 12 points. But then moved up a gear and got a further 28 points in the last 19 matches.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by warksclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:33 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:39 am
Brentford as I mentioned, Palace, Southampton and Leeds. I’d say Villa, Everton, Wolves and even Brighton are about on a par with us. So actually 7.
We tend to compare ourselves to teams when they have a bad day, and comparing them against our better performances. Brighton, Wolves & Villa are capable of gaining 3 points from the majority of teams in the PL. The law of consistency will define the winners and losers at season end

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:37 am

Other than Norwich and Newcastle, the rest of the bottom half are fairly evenly matched, you can see that just by looking at the goal differences.

Hopefully we can end up on the right side of the fine margins over the season as we usually tend to do.
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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:46 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:37 am
Other than Norwich and Newcastle, the rest of the bottom half are fairly evenly matched, you can see that just by looking at the goal differences.

Hopefully we can end up on the right side of the fine margins over the season as we usually tend to do.
Certainly no need to panic as long as we keep playing well

Its quite bizarre, we have been far, far, far worse than this in previous seasons and been a lot higher up the league

I can't work out if its because the league is stronger, and teams are stronger, or that the league is weaker, and so many more teams are weaker

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:47 am
So you think we will over take them and they will be relegated?

I would be amazed if they don’t finished above 15th this season.
Yes I do. They’re a poor side and will be relegated, whether we are or are not.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:45 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:37 am
Other than Norwich and Newcastle, the rest of the bottom half are fairly evenly matched, you can see that just by looking at the goal differences.

Hopefully we can end up on the right side of the fine margins over the season as we usually tend to do.
You do realise We are no better than Norwich or newcastle

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Goddy » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:52 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:45 am
You do realise We are no better than Norwich or newcastle
Er....you do realise we've played 2 games fewer than Norwich and Newcastle don't you? On a comparable basis (which is probably the only valid way of compensating for everyone playing differing numbers of games) you're better off looking at points per game.

On a points per game basis, I can assure you we are better than those two teams.....

Have a lovely day.... ;)

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:45 am
You do realise We are no better than Norwich or newcastle
:lol: :lol:

Of course we are, on pretty much every metric that matters.
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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:00 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:24 pm
We’ve had two good chances to score last minute winners in our last 2 games and not taken them.

We all know we should have more points on the board than we’ve got, but the fact is we haven’t!!!
I think, being fair, it wasn't much of a chance for Vydra at Chelsea but he should have buried that one against Palace.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:31 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:46 am
Certainly no need to panic as long as we keep playing well

Its quite bizarre, we have been far, far, far worse than this in previous seasons and been a lot higher up the league

I can't work out if its because the league is stronger, and teams are stronger, or that the league is weaker, and so many more teams are weaker
I think it's definitely that the league is stronger. Two years ago we finished 10th, I'd argue with the arrival of Cornet we're better now and we're gonna have a hell of a fight to stay up.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:33 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:31 am
I think it's definitely that the league is stronger. Two years ago we finished 10th, I'd argue with the arrival of Cornet we're better now and we're gonna have a hell of a fight to stay up.
But to counter that, many on here are saying our midfield is weaker than two years ago with Cork and Westwood not the players they once were.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:05 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:33 am
But to counter that, many on here are saying our midfield is weaker than two years ago with Cork and Westwood not the players they once were.
Can't both be true?

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:53 pm

Results going our way tonight.

Watford Villa and Everton all losing.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by tiger76 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:26 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:53 pm
Results going our way tonight.

Watford Villa and Everton all losing.
Can't see Everton or Villa being down amongst the dead men for long, Watford on the other hand.

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Re: Tonight's Games

Post by houseboy » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:55 pm
shall I get you a list of all the top players who buggered off to China to earn 600k per week from places like La Liga ? Top talent like Curasco etc all followed the money.
There’s no accounting for mercenaries mate I admit but ‘top players’ who aren’t past their best generally want to win trophies and want to play in top flight football. They will attract top quality players but they sure as hell ain’t gonna attract the Messi’s of this world.

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