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Post by Spijed » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:50 pm
Lack of urgency in the first 3 weeks for sure
Unless you are a club willing to pay top dollar for a player then the vast majority of transfers take place at the end. Not least because agents and players wait for the best offers.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:56 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:49 pm
Another club that signs players without ever knowing whether they're a good fit for the manager.
So you think Everton should wait & let the window shut without reinforcing just incase the manager doesn’t fancy them :roll:

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:52 pm
Don’t know what you mean by wait. I believe he’s flying in today which will possibly mean tomorrow for medical at a guess. We will probably announce it on Monday.

As we’ve seen today, virtually done deals can collapse at the eleventh hour but I’ve heard nothing to suggest anything is going wrong with this one.
I obviously just mean that if the deal is at the stage where all that is left to do is the medical then you presume they wouldn’t be hanging around to get it completed.

If he is flying in today then I would agree that would look like the medical would/should take place tomorrow.

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:57 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:50 pm
I thought that originally there was supposed to be funds made available before we got the £25m for Wood, I did think we might sell Tarks but this didn't happen. We can have more than 25 in the squad if any are below the age limit. Of the 23 we have these include Bardsley, Pieters, Stephens, Cork, Barnes and Vydra, JBG, Long and Lennon. Not exactly great news and they will all need to be replaced pretty quickly and I haven't even included Tarks in that list.

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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:50 pm
Lack of urgency in the first 3 weeks for sure
How do you know what is going on behind the scenes?
How many windows will it take before it sinks in with you that we are nobodies first choice, EVER!!!
Players will always take their time waiting for the better offer, then sign for us late in the window.
PLEASE PRINT THIS OFF AND PASTE IT ABOVE YOUR BED FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:50 pm
Lack of urgency in the first 3 weeks for sure
How do you know that?
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Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:59 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:50 pm
I thought that originally there was supposed to be funds made available before we got the £25m for
Clearly there is funds available otherwise we wouldn't have agreed a fee for Orsic, however unlike say Newcastle we don't have a bottomless pit of cash, so we need to shop sensibly.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:15 pm
If you thought we needed that many then you were always going to be disappointed
Going to need around 8 in the summer

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Post by Nonayforever » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:35 pm
We’ve got our Dutch striker, subject to the medical.
I'm not going to "like" this post untill I see him pointing to the wrong part of his ( Burnley ) shirt !
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Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm
I'm not going to "like" this post untill I see him pointing to the wrong part of his ( Burnley ) shirt !
it's not the wrong part, it's where he keeps his wallet.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm
How do you know that?
Because Pace is flying to Croatia on the 29th on January, why was the 10 million euros not put on the table in week 1? and if it was, why 4 weeks later were we still hanging our hat on this guy joining?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:54 pm
Try as hard as they want. No results yet
they aren't playing football manager on cheat mode with unlimited funds
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:05 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm
How do you know what is going on behind the scenes?
How many windows will it take before it sinks in with you that we are nobodies first choice, EVER!!!
Players will always take their time waiting for the better offer, then sign for us late in the window.
PLEASE PRINT THIS OFF AND PASTE IT ABOVE YOUR BED FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
I assume Daryl Dike's dream move was West Brom then, or the players Watford have signed. What you said made zero logical sense given we signed Collins very early in the summer.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm
Because Pace is flying to Croatia on the 29th on January, why was the 10 million euros not put on the table in week 1? and if it was, why 4 weeks later were we still hanging our hat on this guy joining?
You don’t know what’s happened in the last 24 hours. You don’t know what we offered. You don’t know why the deal has collapsed. But you want to comment as if you know everything.
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Post by leightonjameslegend » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:54 pm
Try as hard as they want. No results yet
Jesus, over a dozen clubs have signed nobody!
They are trying and being much more proactive than our former owners..

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm

leightonjameslegend wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm
Jesus, over a dozen clubs have signed nobody!
They are trying and being much more proactive than our former owners..
How many other clubs are bottom of the table with 1 win this season?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:05 pm
I assume Daryl Dike's dream move was West Brom then, or the players Watford have signed. What you said made zero logical sense given we signed Collins very early in the summer.
The Collins deal was started in the January, but Stoke wouldn't let it happen, hence why it was finished start of the summer.
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Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 pm

Nothing like a transfer window to bring out the clueless keyboard warriors.
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Post by taio » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm
How many other clubs are bottom of the table with 1 win this season?
Which obviously makes it more difficult to sign players.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 pm
they aren't playing football manager on cheat mode with unlimited funds
Silly comment really. Just received 25m from Wood sale. We employ full time recruitment specialists including scouts and data analysts. We have known about areas to improve for quite some time. I’m not buying the fact there’s not one player available that improves us - an example is Patrick Berg who signed for RC Lens recently from Bodo Glimt for €4m. 22 year old technically gifted ball playing centre midfielder.

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Post by andyh » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm
Because Pace is flying to Croatia on the 29th on January, why was the 10 million euros not put on the table in week 1? and if it was, why 4 weeks later were we still hanging our hat on this guy joining?
Have you ever negotiated anything ever. It doesn’t work like that. We put 10m on the table there in week 1. They just leave it there and wait for developments. Chances are we will increase it if they don’t take it immediately.
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm
You don’t know what’s happened in the last 24 hours. You don’t know what we offered. You don’t know why the deal has collapsed. But you want to comment as if you know everything.
All I know is the fact, we have been strung along and the deal's been pulled at the final hour (on 29th January). Why was that deal not on the table week 1, with a 2 week deadline to avoid this situation. Maybe if this situation would've happened 1 week ago, we'd still have time to improve the team. Oh well, an all too familiar feeling.
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm

andyh wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm
Have you ever negotiated anything ever. It doesn’t work like that. We put 10m on the table there in week 1. They just leave it there and wait for developments. Chances are we will increase it if they don’t take it immediately.
They're given a strict deadline, if they fail to respond, onto the next target we go.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm
Silly comment really. Just received 25m from Wood sale. We employ full time recruitment specialists including scouts and data analysts. We have known about areas to improve for quite some time. I’m not buying the fact there’s not one player available that improves us - an example is Patrick Berg who signed for RC Lens recently from Bodo Glimt for €4m. 22 year old technically gifted ball playing centre midfielder.
Silly comment ? So you think if we were able to offer 12 million for Orsic instead of 8 we would stand less of a chance of getting him ? Ok

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:13 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm
All I know is the fact, we have been strung along and the deal's been pulled at the final hour (on 29th January). Why was that deal not on the table week 1, with a 2 week deadline to avoid this situation. Maybe if this situation would've happened 1 week ago, we'd still have time to improve the team. Oh well, an all too familiar feeling.
You don’t know anything

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:14 pm

andyh wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm
Have you ever negotiated anything ever. It doesn’t work like that. We put 10m on the table there in week 1. They just leave it there and wait for developments. Chances are we will increase it if they don’t take it immediately.
Or take it straightaway with a timed retraction.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:13 pm
You don’t know anything
I have never claimed to, all I know is what has been reported, the plug pulled on 29th January.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:14 pm
I have never claimed to, all I know is what has been reported, the plug pulled on 29th January.
So you have very limited information so you use it to beat the club with.
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Post by leightonjameslegend » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm
How many other clubs are bottom of the table with 1 win this season?
As others have said that makes it harder, yet the calibre of player is light years away from who we were chasing under Garlick!
Blame him for the **** we are in. New owners have given us Cornet, Collins, Roberts and a Welsh international back up keeper
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Post by Goody1975 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:14 pm
I have never claimed to, all I know is what has been reported, the plug pulled on 29th January.
What is reported is never the full 'facts'.

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Post by BertiesBeehole » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:16 pm

andyh wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm
Have you ever negotiated anything ever. It doesn’t work like that. We put 10m on the table there in week 1. They just leave it there and wait for developments. Chances are we will increase it if they don’t take it immediately.
He’s never negotiated anything, believe me

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:17 pm

Sad to see the thread has now descended into name calling and insults.

You'd have thought people would have learnt not to expect anything from Burnley in a transfer window. Clearly not.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm
So you have very limited information so you use it to beat the club with.
Sorry I'm frustrated my team (bottom of the league) have sold their main striker for £25m and that money hasn't been used to improve the team. I was very positive after we sold Wood, with the right additions (like the ones targeted) we could've given ourselves a real fighting chance, instead we're left with what ifs, excuses and a dejavu feeling of further disappointment.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 pm
So you have very limited information so you use it to beat the club with.
The club deserve to be beaten. How can we be 48 hours from the window closing and it’s apparent we are not going to strengthen the worst team in the league?
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:21 pm

I'll leave myself vulnerable here too because if Pace signs Weghorst and 2 more i'll happily eat all humble pie

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Post by Rombald » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm
How many other clubs are bottom of the table with 1 win this season?
Please , just log off (I could have said worse) and go and do something else. You seem to be loving this. It's tedious beyond belief
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:22 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:21 pm
I'll leave myself vulnerable here too because if Pace signs Weghorst and 2 more i'll happily eat all humble pie
You are as safe as houses trust me.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:23 pm

Rombald wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:22 pm
Please , just log off (I could have said worse) and go and do something else. You seem to be loving this. It's tedious beyond belief
Just grow up and have a discussion.

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Post by superdimitri » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:24 pm

This is what I said about 10 pages back. As a club you have to expect some deals will fall through. It's acceptable, especially for a club like ours, and in our present position.

The time to be critical is if there are no backups lined up instead, as has been the case in previous years.

At least we're trying to sign quality players, there's no way the previous ownership would have even tried to sign Orisic.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:24 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:22 pm
You are as safe as houses trust me.
Hopefully I eat nothing but humble pie for the next 6 months....Minamino, Weghorst, Ramsey :cry:

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Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 pm
Sorry I'm frustrated my team (bottom of the league) have sold their main striker for £25m and that money hasn't been used to improve the team. I was very positive after we sold Wood, with the right additions (like the ones targeted) we could've given ourselves a real fighting chance, instead we're left with what ifs, excuses and a dejavu feeling of further disappointment.
I backed you in yesterday in trying to cool people down having digs at you, but you seem to have your mind set on creating arguments and drama at every given opportunity at the moment so I will leave you to it.
The club have moved heaven and earth to get this over the line and from what I have read they are as gutted and confused as much as we are as to why Orsic is not a Burnley player. This just shows how hard the deals are to get over the line, and as the bottom of the league club you get to a point where we are saying either deal with us and have this done by mid January or we move on, we would have no irons in the fire at all. The owning club and players hold all the leverage no us.
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Post by warksclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:29 pm

Can see why frustration is kicking in. One thing that's puzzled me-there was more talk from within the club suggesting we would focus on loans this window. This admittedly before the windfall from Woods sale. These can happen more easily at the end of the window, and you would hope that we have a set of targets in this country from players not getting sufficient game time at their current clubs ie Deli Ali (he could be replacement for Osric)-an excellent No 10.Ross Barclay is another. Lets not give up just yet

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm
Because Pace is flying to Croatia on the 29th on January, why was the 10 million euros not put on the table in week 1? and if it was, why 4 weeks later were we still hanging our hat on this guy joining?
Give it up man!........FFS.
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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 pm

Meanwhile Newcastle complete the signing of Bruno Guimaraes for £33m from Lyon, a very very good defensive midfielder. Not expecting us to compete financially with them but the fact is they have improved their team significantly while we haven’t and don’t appear to be doing.

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Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:58 pm
How do you know that?
Because he's a football expert.

:roll:

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:32 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:26 pm
I backed you in yesterday in trying to cool people down having digs at you, but you seem to have your mind set on creating arguments and drama at every given opportunity at the moment so I will leave you to it.
The club have moved heaven and earth to get this over the line and from what I have read they are as gutted and confused as much as we are as to why Orsic is not a Burnley player. This just shows how hard the deals are to get over the line, and as the bottom of the league club you get to a point where we are saying either deal with us and have this done by mid January or we move on, we would have no irons in the fire at all. The owning club and players hold all the leverage no us.
Just a natural reaction to disappointing news, sorry I'm not delighted I guess, no intention to cause ''drama''.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:32 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:29 pm
I don't think we will get four either but that was what we needed as soon as Wood was sold.
I was hoping for 8 :D

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Rombald » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:23 pm
Just grow up and have a discussion.
I don't particularly want a discussion with you but for now here goes. We are bottom, no denying and I think we all know that. However the season is usually decided when equal number of games are played. Additionally , I will make judgement when the transfer window is closed. I can stamp my feet and moan like hell, but it won't make any difference to something I can't directly influence.
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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:35 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 pm
Meanwhile Newcastle complete the signing of Bruno Guimaraes for £33m from Lyon, a very very good defensive midfielder. Not expecting us to compete financially with them but the fact is they have improved their team significantly while we haven’t and don’t appear to be doing.
The spending won’t stop there, Newcastle aren’t our relegation rivals might be now but not at the end.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:36 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:23 pm
Just grow up and have a discussion.
Discussion about what?
You've already said you think Pace is going to pocket the transfer money we got from Wood.

There isn't much else worth discussing with you when you've got that mindset
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