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Post by Firthy » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:05 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:01 am
I think we’d be crazy to reject anything above 15/20m. He’s literally going on a free in 6 months. Understand it’s strengthening them but Collins is a very good replacement and allows us a very decent transfer kitty to improve (be in in the PL now or Champ).
Agree. Using the money we already had along with the Wood/Tarks money would be a sizeable kitty for us but then chances of us using it is a big if.

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:07 am

Someone on twitter made a good point, surely it would of been cheaper for the Saudis to have bought Burnley instead of Newcastle 😆 🤣 😂
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:09 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:01 am
I think we’d be crazy to reject anything above 15/20m. He’s literally going on a free in 6 months. Understand it’s strengthening them but Collins is a very good replacement and allows us a very decent transfer kitty to improve (be in in the PL now or Champ).
It’s only good if it is invested. If it’s not it’s just considerably weakening us and strengthening our relegation rivals.

14 days left of the window and we still need at least 3 in

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:10 am

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:05 am
Re Tarks, Don't forget that Brentford due a sell on %, so even if he goes for 15/20 Mill we won't see all of that cash
We sell him for 25, 20 million profit on what we bought him for, 5 million to Brentford still leaves us with 20 million to bring in a new cb to play along side Collins next season no worries.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:13 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:09 am
It’s only good if it is invested. If it’s not it’s just considerably weakening us and strengthening our relegation rivals.

14 days left of the window and we still need at least 3 in
Yes completely agree. Given the amount of links lately it’s clear Pace is pretty busy behind the scenes but can these players be convinced to join us? That’s the question. And also are Pace and Dyche aligned? Pace might see the possible £40m+ income as a perfect chance to rebuild a more youthful team with huge resale potential, while Dyche might want to splash it all on Benteke types.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am

I'd have thought Tarkowski would choose to keep his options open for the summer even if we did accept a bid.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:13 am
Yes completely agree. Given the amount of links lately it’s clear Pace is pretty busy behind the scenes but can these players be convinced to join us? That’s the question. And also are Pace and Dyche aligned? Pace might see the possible £40m+ income as a perfect chance to rebuild a more youthful team with huge resale potential, while Dyche might want to splash it all on Benteke types.
I just can’t comprehend losing two of our best players in the middle of a relegation battle.

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:15 am

At least it confirms one thing if true that blind panic has set in at Newcastle with regards to getting in players and that they are relying on weakening other teams to stop up.

I suspect that's what it boils down to.
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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 am

taio wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am
I'd have thought Tarkowski would choose to keep his options open for the summer even if we did accept a bid.
He's not going to get a wage anywhere else like the one Newcastle will offer him, and player's follow the cash

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:19 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 am
He's not going to get a wage anywhere else like the one Newcastle will offer him, and player's follow the cash
I disagree

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Post by Goobs » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:22 am

Northern club, big money, makes sense to all parties. Let him go, get Collins in the team source a young replacement (unless they think Thomas can be that) and use excess funds and those of the Wood transfer for a CF, CM and RW.

Sounds all so easy but I know that won't be the case.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:24 am

Goobs wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:22 am
Northern club, big money, makes sense to all parties. Let him go, get Collins in the team source a young replacement (unless they think Thomas can be that) and use excess funds and those of the Wood transfer for a CF, CM and RW.

Sounds all so easy but I know that won't be the case.
Exactly, in theory sounds great and on Football Manager it's a no brainer- but reality is clearly quite different.

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Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:28 am

We should take any money we can for Tarkowski.

He’s been superb for us over the years, but this season, Tarkowski has been a significant contributor to our on field problems.

You don’t keep a player, and play them every game, if they’re coasting to the end of their contract.

In previous years, I wouldn’t have confidence that we could get a replacement in, but under Pace, I do.

If a bid comes in, get him sold.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:30 am

TsarBomba wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:28 am
We should take any money we can for Tarkowski.

He’s been superb for us over the years, but this season, Tarkowski has been a significant contributor to our on field problems.

You don’t keep a player, and play them every game, if they’re coasting to the end of their contract.

In previous years, I wouldn’t have confidence that we could get a replacement in, but under Pace, I do.

If a bid comes in, get him sold.
Still statistically our best CB this season. This considerably weakens us further.

I would argue if this happens our starting eleven is worse now than before Pace came in.

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Post by joey13 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:30 am

I would be more worried if Newcastle were coming in for Charlie Taylor
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:31 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 am
He's not going to get a wage anywhere else like the one Newcastle will offer him, and player's follow the cash
Maybe not the same wage but factor in a signing on fee he would receive as a free-agent and the overall package may be worth more.

Whether he would gamble a potentially bigger deal in the summer for a guaranteed one now is a different matter.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:33 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am
I just can’t comprehend losing two of our best players in the middle of a relegation battle.
These said 2 players have actually been contributing to our demise, wood been absolutely useless all season, tarkowski has clearly not been bothered or even wanted to play for us this season, too slow, too bulked up, affecting he's game, and wants away in my opinion, a liability, so many mistakes in him. Get Collins in, get as much as we can for tarkowski, around £12m I believe could be the marker for the geordies. But then we need to use it well, with what was already available we could be looking around £50m, plenty to keep us up.
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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:35 am

joey13 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:30 am
I would be more worried if Newcastle were coming in for Charlie Taylor
That's tomorrow's bid

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:38 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:33 am
These said 2 players have actually been contributing to our demise, wood been absolutely useless all season, tarkowski has clearly not been bothered or even wanted to play for us this season, too slow, too bulked up, affecting he's game, and wants away in my opinion, a liability, so many mistakes in him. Get Collins in, get as much as we can for tarkowski, around £12m I believe could be the marker for the geordies. But then we need to use it well, with what was already available we could be looking around £50m, plenty to keep us up.
I’m sorry but this is just nonsense. They are two of our best players and the stats back that up.

Let’s sell them and use players that are not performing as well? That’s not going to improve us at all.

Imagine the reaction on here if Garlick had done this.

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Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:40 am

We had £100m in the bank when Garlick was here.

Now it's in his.

That's the difference.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:41 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:33 am
These said 2 players have actually been contributing to our demise, wood been absolutely useless all season, tarkowski has clearly not been bothered or even wanted to play for us this season, too slow, too bulked up, affecting he's game, and wants away in my opinion, a liability, so many mistakes in him. Get Collins in, get as much as we can for tarkowski, around £12m I believe could be the marker for the geordies. But then we need to use it well, with what was already available we could be looking around £50m, plenty to keep us up.
With all their money (fees and wages) Newcastle have so far only brought in Trippier and Wood - plenty of stories of other players turning them down

So how far are you expecting our money to go

£25m + £12m = £37m in my head

Where does the other £13m come from

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Post by boyyanno » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:44 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:38 am
I’m sorry but this is just nonsense. They are two of our best players and the stats back that up.

Let’s sell them and use players that are not performing as well? That’s not going to improve us at all.

Imagine the reaction on here if Garlick had done this.
Wait till we don't reinvest the money and it goes into servicing the debt (which is coming IMO).

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:44 am

Not sure that Tarks will move as he has plenty of suitors on a free

But no argument here that if he wants to go and Newcastle bid for him, then we should sell

Course, then we'd need to get at least three in a couple of weeks, which would be a very tall order
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Post by bobinho » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:45 am

Tarks at this stage shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team. His replacement is already here, get him in the side. Anyone who thinks having Tarks in the side or not is key to us staying up or not at this stage in our season is seriously deluded.

I’d love to sell him this window, I really would, but his own personal interests will ensure he leaves in the summer and he trousers what would’ve been a transfer fee. I sincerely hope I’m wrong, but my gut feeling is like most people who already have a lot of money, he’ll want more and ride it out.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:48 am

tarkys_ears wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:40 am
We had £100m in the bank when Garlick was here.

Now it's in his.

That's the difference.
I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:55 am

tarkys_ears wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:40 am
We had £100m in the bank when Garlick was here.

Now it's in his.

That's the difference.
When did the £50 million get doubled?

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Post by bobinho » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:59 am

Inflation. Going thru the roof…..

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:16 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am
I just can’t comprehend losing two of our best players in the middle of a relegation battle.
You are mistakenly thinking the people at the top give a sh1t about our PL status we could have kept wood, but we now have no readymade replacement & we will be tit arseing about at the end with a Carroll or somebody like that coming in.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:18 am

Like bobinho, can’t see him going this window when he pockets a better deal (and will undoubtedly have more greater choice of clubs) in summer.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:25 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:16 am
You are mistakenly thinking the people at the top give a sh1t about our PL status we could have kept wood, but we now have no readymade replacement & we will be tit arseing about at the end with a Carroll or somebody like that coming in.
This just feels completely wrong based on what we know.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:28 am

taio wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:25 am
This just feels completely wrong based on what we know.

https://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:30 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:18 am
Like bobinho, can’t see him going this window when he pockets a better deal (and will undoubtedly have more greater choice of clubs) in summer.
He might get a serious injury and throw it all away as well?

I don't think Newcastle will be as desperate in the summer if they stay up. He might get a bumper deal else where though?

Risk and reward.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:31 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:28 am
https://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs
The Board need us to stay up and how could we have kept Wood if he had a release clause, the release clause value was met and he wanted to leave?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:32 am

taio wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:31 am
The Board need us to stay up and how could we have kept Wood if he had a release clause, the release clause value was met and he wanted to leave?
It depends who you want to believe, have a good day.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:34 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:32 am
It depends who you want to believe, have a good day.
What leads you to believe that the Board don't care if we go down and we could've kept Wood?

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:34 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:32 am
It depends who you want to believe, have a good day.
I think the official announcements by the clubs involved are a good starting point.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:35 am

CFS wrote:
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I'm good pal. Just merely pointing out that he isn't the dear we know him to be.
Course you are

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:36 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:30 am
He might get a serious injury and throw it all away as well?

I don't think Newcastle will be as desperate in the summer if they stay up. He might get a bumper deal else where though?

Risk and reward.
That’s a fair point. He may look at it as bumper contract now, no risk of injury destroying my career, etc.

Best scenario would be if WHU and Newcastle started a bidding war.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:37 am

Brentford the PL club in for Christian Eriksen. We are desperate for a 10 and creativity - why aren’t we all over this?

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:38 am

taio wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:25 am
This just feels completely wrong based on what we know.
It is completely wrong, but that's hardly surprising given the identity of the poster.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:39 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:36 am
That’s a fair point. He may look at it as bumper contract now, no risk of injury destroying my career, etc.

Best scenario would be if WHU and Newcastle started a bidding war.
He can sign a pre contract agreement in January I think.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:41 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:37 am
Brentford the PL club in for Christian Eriksen. We are desperate for a 10 and creativity - why aren’t we all over this?
Agree.

Limited risk, 6 months with an option to extend is what Brentford are discussing. We don’t know if Eriksen is wedded to London, and we don’t know if he is the same man who got 10-15 assists per season in the Premier League. If he is though, that is what we need, 100%.

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:41 am

taio wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:39 am
He can sign a pre contract agreement in January I think.
Only with clubs outside England.

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Post by Kazoo » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:42 am

Carroll would be a smart signing on a contract until the end of the season, or maybe until the end of next season. He would suit our style of play, there is no transfer fee involved, and I doubt his wages would be out of reach. He may be on the older side but he still has pedigree.

As much as I would like Origi or Benteke, the problem is how attractive a proposition we are. They would most certainly demand relegation release clauses (a sensible option for both concerned parties). I think their wage demands would be too much for us to account for in the tier below. Perhaps loan options until the end of the season might be more realistic and sensible.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:43 am

taio wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:39 am
He can sign a pre contract agreement in January I think.
No only with foreign teams

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Post by boyyanno » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:46 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:41 am
Agree.

Limited risk, 6 months with an option to extend is what Brentford are discussing. We don’t know if Eriksen is wedded to London, and we don’t know if he is the same man who got 10-15 assists per season in the Premier League. If he is though, that is what we need, 100%.
Absolute shambles if we aren't interested. Would be an excellent option to play in front of a midfield 2 and allow us to go 451.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:46 am

We should be in for Eriksen for sure.

It would be an imaginative and exciting signing. Probably means that Brentford won’t be dragged in if he turns up and is anything like.

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Post by taio » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:47 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:41 am
Only with clubs outside England.
Cheers. Wasn't sure about that.

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Post by dermotdermot » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:49 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:37 am
Brentford the PL club in for Christian Eriksen. We are desperate for a 10 and creativity - why aren’t we all over this?
Is that for real? I would have thought that he would have preferred to come to Burnley over them.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:49 am

On second thinking, Brentford team full of Danes, plus London, plus clear of relegation = us no chance.
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