Backofthenet wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:16 am

You mean like our current crop?

Did you miss the word “another”?

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:16 am

BBC says we're interested in Phil Jones. Manure want 15Mil.

Fake news, his wage at utd is 130k a week

It’s not the first time we’ve been linked to Jones. I’d imagine he’s keen to reignite his career somewhere else.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:47 pm

Guirassy vid:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuF0OEjOIHw

Likes to take free kicks, but is rubbish at them

We really need a list of all the players we’ve been linked with to get a perspective on this. Perhaps call it the ones that got away.

Phil Jones link
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... s-25957147

Shows you how much the Newcastle money is inflating prices

Jones wouldn't be a bad punt IF it was what we needed, but it isn't. We need a couple of creative midfielders and a mobile striker. Defence isn't a priority right now with Collins and Roberts in. Hope we save our cash.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:28 am

Did you miss the word “another”?

I thought you were referring to buying a misfiring forward, like the crouch signing...

Get Jones in on loan

Ship Tarks to Newcastle for as much as we can get

Use the money to swoop for Carroll

I’d take Jones but not at that figure. Newcastle have money to burn but with his lack of games this season he’s more in
the £8-10 million bracket, imo.

jojomk1 8:58....a bit early to be ******

I'd use the 25 million on Millwalls right winger Jed Wallace, Readings central midfielder John Swift both out of contract at the end of the season so we could probably pick both up for 8 million and spend the rest if the 17 million abroad on the next Cornet

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:07 am

jojomk1 8:58....a bit early to be ******

I'd use the 25 million on Millwalls right winger Jed Wallace, Readings central midfielder John Swift both out of contract at the end of the season so we could probably pick both up for 8 million and spend the rest if the 17 million abroad on the next Cornet

Wallace is going to Forest between 1 and 2m.

beddie wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:04 am

I’d take Jones but not at that figure. Newcastle have money to burn but with his lack of games this season he’s more in
the £8-10 million bracket, imo.

His wage is around 130k, so even if we loan him and utd pay 80k and we pay 50k who's postion in the team is he taking this season

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:58 am

Get Jones in on loan

Ship Tarks to Newcastle for as much as we can get

Use the money to swoop for Carroll

Apparently there's an 8m offer from West Ham for Tarky on the table, it will remain there for the window should we decide we want to cash in.

Like you, I'd also cash in however I'd play Collins and target Ben Davies from Liverpool for cover.
Ball playing Left sided CB
Ex captain of PNE
Local lad
Knows the championship inside out
26 and coming into his prime
Great cover now, could be groomed for when Mee leaves
They got him for 2.5m last January, you'd think we could get him for 8m or lower.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:10 am

Wallace is going to Forest between 1 and 2m.

He isn't going anywhere at the moment, no deals done for Wallace with any club

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:11 am

His wage is around 130k, so even if we loan him and utd pay 80k and we pay 50k who's postion in the team is he taking this season

Either of Tarks or Mee.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:13 am

Apparently there's an 8m offer from West Ham for Tarky on the table, it will remain there for the window should we decide we want to cash in.

Like you, I'd also cash in however I'd play Collins and target Ben Davies from Liverpool for cover.
Ball playing Left sided CB
Ex captain of PNE
Local lad
Knows the championship inside out
26 and coming into his prime
Great cover now, could be groomed for when Mee leaves
They got him for 2.5m last January, you'd think we could get him for 8m or lower.

It's Liverpool they'd want nearer to 80 million than 8

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:16 am

Either of Tarks or Mee.

Ahead of Collins ??????

MACCA wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:13 am

Apparently there's an 8m offer from West Ham for Tarky on the table, it will remain there for the window should we decide we want to cash in.

Like you, I'd also cash in however I'd play Collins and target Ben Davies from Liverpool for cover.
Ball playing Left sided CB
Ex captain of PNE
Local lad
Knows the championship inside out
26 and coming into his prime
Great cover now, could be groomed for when Mee leaves
They got him for 2.5m last January, you'd think we could get him for 8m or lower.

Ben Davies been mentioned on here repeatedly by people - he’s on loan for the season at Sheffield United, signed for them in the summer.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:13 am

Apparently there's an 8m offer from West Ham for Tarky on the table, it will remain there for the window should we decide we want to cash in.

Tarkowski has the final say, the club is powerless to force a sale. If the player decides to wait six months and join a club of his choice for a handsome golden handshake that’s his prerogative.
Tarks has form.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:17 am

Ahead of Collins ??????

As well as.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:07 am

I don’t think we’re an attractive draw at all, but I don’t want another aging miss firing striker thanks very much.

We might just have to take what we can get & be happy with it, I can’t see a orderly queue forming.

Nixon reckons Villa now keen on Neil at Sunderland while we continue ‘sniffing’. Why oh why we don’t just do the deal? These are the kind of signings we’ve just not made in recent times and exactly why we’ve ended up in this position and squad.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:47 am

We might just have to take what we can get & be happy with it, I can’t see a orderly queue forming.

If course nobody is desperate to join a bottom of the league side. That’s why we should’ve strengthened when we finished 7th.

Nevertheless, our best chance of recruiting well is from abroad where there’s greater parity on salaries and we can offer them the exposure of playing in the PL, if only for half a season.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:21 am

If course nobody is desperate to join a bottom of the league side. That’s why we should’ve strengthened when we finished 7th.

Nevertheless, our best chance of recruiting well is from abroad where there’s greater parity on salaries and we can offer them the exposure of playing in the PL, if only for half a season.

I agree, and we might need to go up to £100k a week to attract the players with the REAL QUALITY that we need.

I do think we could push the wage budget. If any current player kicks up a fuss just point them to their performances throughout this season and our current league position.

Liam Moore a cb at Reading has had a fall out with the club. Looks promising and a ready made replacement for Tarks
£4m bid and get Swift signed while we are about it.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:50 am

Liam Moore a cb at Reading has had a fall out with the club. Looks promising and a ready made replacement for Tarks
£4m bid and get Swift signed while we are about it.

Collins is our ready made replacement for Tarks.

If Mee leaves and we sign Jones then we’ll have Jones Collins at the back. Class act!

Mala591 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:24 am

I agree, and we might need to go up to £100k a week to attract the players with the REAL QUALITY that we need.

I agree. Maybe not so far in one jump, but I honestly think that the 11 OOC in summer is a massive opportunity in this regard - replace them with 5-6 players real quality players who will contribute more, then fill the squad with the younger players we feel have potential - Helm, etc.

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I'd use the 25 million on Millwalls right winger Jed Wallace, Readings central midfielder John Swift both out of contract at the end of the season so we could probably pick both up for 8 million and spend the rest if the 17 million abroad on the next Cornet
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Wallace has been at Millwall for almost 5 years and Swift for pretty much the same time at Reading, so why has nobody else spotted these talents
OK, so Wallace linked with Notts F today but are we looking for players to keep us up or merely throwing in the towel and signing players for the Championship

We are certainly going to struggle to attract Prem standard players to sign permanently this month so let's just concentrate on the loan market (inc overseas) and buy wisely in the summer based on what league we will be playing in

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:08 pm

[quote=
I'd use the 25 million on Millwalls right winger Jed Wallace, Readings central midfielder John Swift both out of contract at the end of the season so we could probably pick both up for 8 million and spend the rest if the 17 million abroad on the next Cornet

Wallace has been at Millwall for almost 5 years and Swift for pretty much the same time at Reading, so why has nobody else spotted these talents
OK, so Wallace linked with Notts F today but are we looking for players to keep us up or merely throwing in the towel and signing players for the Championship

We are certainly going to struggle to attract Prem standard players to sign permanently this month so let's just concentrate on the loan market (inc overseas) and buy wisely in the summer based on what league we will be playing in
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The fact we are crying out for a RM and are not interested in him at 1-2m tells you everything you need to know.

He’s not good enough.

Pearcey wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:57 am

If Mee leaves and we sign Jones then we’ll have Jones Collins at the back. Class act!

Think they'd be gone to a Burton

Don't understand why we aren't looking at both Lawrence and Knight from Derby.
Lawrence having another good season with goals and assists, can play anywhere across midfield and as a 10. We were rumoured to be in for Knight in the past..
They are desperate to raise £7m to keep going. Nixon reporting they have accepted a 30k bid for Shinnie!

leightonjameslegend wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:23 pm

Don't understand why we aren't looking at both Lawrence and Knight from Derby.

I can only imagine/hope that’s because we are looking at better quality players - Fofana, Origi, etc.

Neither Lawrence or Knight are proven at this level and therefore it would be very dangerous to rely on them to get us out of this mess, even if they are cheap.

By the way, I read Lawrence was on £37.5k pw at Derby. Not sure if it’s true. Last thing we need is a Championship player clogging up our wage bill like that!

I’d be raiding Derby for sure.

Bielik, Lawrence and Knight could all be had for under £10m and would all be upgrades on what we have at the moment in the said positions.

If we don’t stay up then we’d at least have a strong core for next season.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:28 pm

I can only imagine/hope that’s because we are looking at better quality players - Fofana, Origi, etc.

Neither Lawrence or Knight are proven at this level and therefore it would be very dangerous to rely on them to get us out of this mess, even if they are cheap.

By the way, I read Lawrence was on £37.5k pw at Derby. Not sure if it’s true. Last thing we need is a Championship player clogging up our wage bill like that!

Origi and Forfana are unproven in the Prem to be fair..it's rumoured Liverpool already turned down a loan deal

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:28 pm

I can only imagine/hope that’s because we are looking at better quality players - Fofana, Origi, etc.

Neither Lawrence or Knight are proven at this level and therefore it would be very dangerous to rely on them to get us out of this mess, even if they are cheap.

By the way, I read Lawrence was on £37.5k pw at Derby. Not sure if it’s true. Last thing we need is a Championship player clogging up our wage bill like that!

I hope you're right by saying we're looking at better quality players, but Lawrence would be a PL player if it wasn't for his high wage in the Championship.

leightonjameslegend wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:35 pm

Origi and Forfana are unproven in the Prem to be fair..it's rumoured Liverpool already turned down a loan deal

True enough but both are playing at a much higher level currently. I think we’re doing the right thing in at least exploring these deals first, before setting sights on potentially more achievable signings.

Plenty of choices at Derby to bring in some fresh faces on the cheap. As already said Bielik, Knight and Lawrence are better than what we currently have. Lawrence scored both goals against Sheff Utd yesterday. They also have a couple of good youngsters in Buchanan and Sibley. So if no other deals bear fruit then these would be options.

Tom Lawrence - Derby County

IF we want him why don’t we offer £60k a week?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tom-law ... ler/229970

Firthy wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:49 pm

Plenty of choices at Derby to bring in some fresh faces on the cheap. As already said Bielik, Knight and Lawrence are better than what we currently have. Lawrence scored both goals against Sheff Utd yesterday. They also have a couple of good youngsters in Buchanan and Sibley. So if no other deals bear fruit then these would be options.

Even as a business decision, these players could be flipped and we could make some serious profit on them.

Derby administrators have accepted a 30k bid for a player called Shinnie. I don't know what he's worth but it isn't much for a footballer.

Get raiding them I say.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:58 pm

Derby administrators have accepted a 30k bid for a player called Shinnie. I don't know what he's worth but it isn't much for a footballer.

Get raiding them I say.

I’m amazed they accepted that. Be worth at least a mil surely

The Derby situation seems similar to when Wigan were doing a fire sale a season or two back and Leeds snapped up Geldhart for 1.5m and Fulham got Antoine Robinson for similar.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:58 pm

Derby administrators have accepted a 30k bid for a player called Shinnie. I don't know what he's worth but it isn't much for a footballer.

Get raiding them I say.

Graeme Shinnie is a decent player for the championship. Was Aberdeen’s captain a few years ago, sure he may have a couple of scotland caps aswell.

Not sure his contract situation but £30k is peanuts.

I wouldn’t suggest we go for Shinnie he’s not good enough for us currently but he’s not a bad player at the level below.

I wasn't suggesting signing him just pointing out the administrators will accept peanuts.

I think it's got to the point where they have to fund the club out of their own pocket or sell players.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:57 pm

Even as a business decision, these players could be flipped and we could make some serious profit on them.

That’s a fair point. I’d still rather we put valuable resources towards players that could lift us a few levels before we consider that though.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:01 pm

Graeme Shinnie is a decent player for the championship. Was Aberdeen’s captain a few years ago, sure he may have a couple of scotland caps aswell.

Not sure his contract situation but £30k is peanuts.

I wouldn’t suggest we go for Shinnie he’s not good enough for us currently but he’s not a bad player at the level below.

Whoever gets Shinnie for 30k is getting a bargain, agree he's not up to the PL though.

But we should be all over the Derby situation when there's potential bargains to be had, instead we're seemingly being linked to Andy flippin Csrroll.

Wake up Dyche, Pace and the recruitment team, and strike well the iron is hot.

No one knows who we are interested in really.

Does anyone else get annoyed with the apparent lack of understanding that rumours are often without substance and that we shouldn't take everything we read at face value.

Whilst it's good to debate what's reported, when it gets to having a pop at the club about something outside their control and that may not even be true, it's a bit OTT?