Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:29 pm

Anyone else getting a little nervous? 12 days left to get at least 3 signings in

I get the feeling we are struggling to attract the players we are interested in or being priced out. I was optimistic last week..but that is waning quickly. We have been here before and know the ending. Dyche is stubborn. Pace is positive but a little naive..as he found out last January.

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:58 pm

Cornet played most equally Left and Right wing at Lyon, but spent the last couple of years at left back. Personally, I see him as a right winger as he’s such a goalscorer on his left foot but also two footed. Dyche clearly wants him left and Dwight right which also makes sense as Dwight has the attributes to make a very good right midfielder but he’s not been at his best this year.

Sorry but McNeil is bloody terrible on the right, he needs to switch feet or turn circle to put a cross in by then the defender takes the ball

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:07 pm

Sorry but McNeil is bloody terrible on the right, he needs to switch feet or turn circle to put a cross in by then the defender takes the ball

Can't understand why he isn't playing in cm in a free role as part of 3, or on the left of a front 3. He has been forced to think defence first due to our rigid 442. No wonder we don't create many chances.

Lundstram is out of the rangers side tonight.

Linked with Boro and probably not good enough for us nowadays but would have had him here 18months ago

Long term McNeil isn’t a left winger. He’s too slow and can’t beat a man. Can see the logic to playing him on the right. He’s always cutting inside and it makes sense for him to cut onto his stronger foot rather than what’s he’s doing at the minute on the left which is having to turn onto his weaker foot and pass it backwards. This needs a quicker full back being able to overlap on the right to put the crosses in first time which I hope Roberts is able to do when fit

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:40 pm

Cornet, Roberts, Collins?

Don't start posting FACTS.....it spoils the negative vibe!

No more rumours re Ross Barkley then ?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:40 pm

Cornet, Roberts, Collins?

All good signings, but of the 3 only Cornet has made an immediate impact, now I suspect Collins & Roberts will prove their worth in time, the problem is we don't have the luxury of time especially given our precarious position at the foot of the table.

Personally despite the threat of relegation I'd still prefer the approach of targeting players of this ilk who we can develop, and then all being well sell them on for good money a year or two down the line, this is one way that would ensure the club remains sustainable no matter what division we're in at any given moment.

This was always going to be a tough window given there's every chance of us being in the Championship in a few months, and that allied to our sensible wage structure unfortunately hinders us in the market, but Pace pulled the cornet deal out of his hat, so we can only fervently hope he'll provide another nice surprise or two before the window shuts, and ideally without breaking the bank, as although PL security is desirable it's not worth betting the ranch as the consequences don't bear thinking about in the event of failure.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:58 pm

Wow .... Yes, that's why I said if/when he leaves.
It's better to plan in advance than to get caught with your pants down.

The club get stick for not planning, then when it looks like they may do, they still get stick

You misunderstood me mate: I was joking about him being AWOL this season, hence the laughing emoji’s.

I agree with you though, won’t be here forever and unless Cornet is the replacement, we need someone as cover and competition for his place.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:51 pm

It is Dyche, Cornet had played mostly at right wing and his best assists and goals come from playing on the right

So why was it widely reported that he’d mainly played on the left wing and at left back for Lyon?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:29 pm

Anyone else getting a little nervous? 12 days left to get at least 3 signings in

Nope. We’ll either get them or we won’t. We’ll go down or we’ll stay up. Life will go on.

When I read through the transfer updates on sky the truth is there’s not much going on elsewhere either. For whatever reason, these things all seem to happen when there’s days left, no further time for negotiations and all parties have to either reach an agreement or not & move on. For that reason I wish the transfer windows were 48 hours in January and 72 hours in summer!

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:58 pm

Nope. We’ll either get them or we won’t. We’ll go down or we’ll stay up. Life will go on.

When I read through the transfer updates on sky the truth is there’s not much going on elsewhere either. For whatever reason, these things all seem to happen when there’s days left, no further time for negotiations and all parties have to either reach an agreement or not & move on. For that reason I wish the transfer windows were 48 hours in January and 72 hours in summer!

Im not sure I could be so unconcerned about us being relegated

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:58 pm

Nope. We’ll either get them or we won’t. We’ll go down or we’ll stay up. Life will go on.

When I read through the transfer updates on sky the truth is there’s not much going on elsewhere either. For whatever reason, these things all seem to happen when there’s days left, no further time for negotiations and all parties have to either reach an agreement or not & move on. For that reason I wish the transfer windows were 48 hours in January and 72 hours in summer!

It’s all one big game of brinksmanship.

Who blinks first.

Agents and clubs holding out for as long as they can for as much money as they can get.

No club/agent are going to sell to Burnley with 12 days of the window left, with the possibility of getting more money from elsewhere.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:06 pm

Im not sure I could be so unconcerned about us being relegated

Never worry about things you can’t control mate. A life of misery awaits if you do.

Leeds bidding for Aaronson from Salzburg. Be a good move for us if we can pip them at the post. Wonder if the American link could work in our favour

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:51 pm

So why was it widely reported that he’d mainly played on the left wing and at left back for Lyon?

It isn't, if you bother to look his best games and stats are when he plays on the right wing and there is plenty of reports and web sites where he's mentioned playing in that position

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:50 pm

It isn't, if you bother to look his best games and stats are when he plays on the right wing and there is plenty of reports and web sites where he's mentioned playing in that position

I’m sorry but it was widely reported.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:44 pm

Never worry about things you can’t control mate. A life of misery awaits if you do.

You must be fairly unique amongst football fans but fair play to you

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:51 pm

So why was it widely reported that he’d mainly played on the left wing and at left back for Lyon?

Featured left wing back for the national team regularly too

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:48 pm

Leeds bidding for Aaronson from Salzburg. Be a good move for us if we can pip them at the post. Wonder if the American link could work in our favour

Flopped at Salzburg, Camara is a serious player in midfield for them.

Aaronson is the real deal. We should be all over that deal. Have seen him play for the USA. A real talent.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:31 pm

Flopped at Salzburg, Camara is a serious player in midfield for them.

He’s 20 and has started over 80% of games since signing for the club in January.

Stats read well with 15 goal contributions in 36 league games.

HahaYeah wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:05 pm

MISLAV ORŠIĆ - Scores some cracking goals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXh-u1SjMQk

I think squad number 99 is still available, isn't it?

Nice to see they still occasionally play on the local rec in Croatia

We need to look abroad for better value, This player looks a good prospect Brennan Johnson at Forest ((His dad David played for Burnley on loan) , they've knocked back a 15m bid from Brentford and want closer to 20m, he's young and hardly played any game's but in this country if they have a purple patch half season and score 5 or 6 they all of a sudden become 20 million pound player's

Can't edit my post but just to add if Brennan Johnson could be bought for say 12 million cash upfront instead of the ridiculous 20 million wanted he'd be a good buy, he can play left and right wing and this would allow us to change from 442 and switch to 4231 with McNeil in the middle of the 3 behind the lone striker

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:54 am

Can't edit my post but just to add if Brennan Johnson could be bought for say 12 million cash upfront instead of the ridiculous 20 million wanted he'd be a good buy, he can play left and right wing and this would allow us to change from 442 and switch to 4231 with McNeil in the middle of the 3 behind the lone striker

the problem we have is we are bottom of the league and play crap/distinctly average football - we already saw in the summer a bang average player from Celtic turned us down because of it. It's going to be very hard for us to attract young exciting players unfortunately

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:38 am

the problem we have is we are bottom of the league and play crap/distinctly average football - we already saw in the summer a bang average player from Celtic turned us down because of it. It's going to be very hard for us to attract young exciting players unfortunately

We don't do young exciting players unfortunately

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:28 am

We don't do young exciting players unfortunately

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:38 am

the problem we have is we are bottom of the league and play crap/distinctly average football - we already saw in the summer a bang average player from Celtic turned us down because of it. It's going to be very hard for us to attract young exciting players unfortunately

Maybe we got lucky that he fancied being on easy street considering he has 1 goal in 20 games in a very weak league

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:54 am

switch to 4231 with McNeil in the middle of the 3 behind the lone striker

It was the perfect opportunity at OT and SD went with Lennon. I think we can forget Dwight playing behind the strikers. Sad as I think he’s perfect for the role.

minnieclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 am

It was the perfect opportunity at OT and SD went with Lennon. I think we can forget Dwight playing behind the strikers. Sad as I think he’s perfect for the role.

Dwight in a 10 role I feel could be effective, of course we'll actually need to buy some strikers first, or get the ones we have fit.

I don't wish to speak for SD, but he'll probably argue that Lennon was our best player at OT, and he did get on the score sheet, which isn't something our strikers have done very often this season.

Reports we've bid £10m for orsic from Dinamo Zagreb, would be good if we could get him.

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:47 am

Reports we've bid £10m for orsic from Dinamo Zagreb, would be good if we could get him.

Seems a lot of money for him

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:47 am

Reports we've bid £10m for orsic from Dinamo Zagreb, would be good if we could get him.

Would love him but can't see him swapping champions league football for Burnley....but you never know

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:49 am

Seems a lot of money for him

Only one game this but its his hatrick against Spurs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPaKgvEk-1o

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:55 am

Only one game this but its his hatrick against Spurs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPaKgvEk-1o

Don’t get me wrong I know he’s shown flashes, but 29 and hasn’t got a particularly great record at a much lower level. Just seems a high fee to me.

Let’s hope he’s another cornet though and comes in flying

Can remember the Croatia v Spain knockout game at the Euros, Orsic completely changed the game when he came on and Croatia went from 3-1 down to 3-3 late on (he scored).

Interesting he plays on the left which means either McNeil right or maybe finally McNeil in the 10 and Cornet on the right (assuming we get a new striker in too).

Also I can't see any report that we've bid 10m? Just a Lancs Live article suggesting they value him at that.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:59 am

Can remember the Croatia v Spain knockout game at the Euros, Orsic completely changed the game when he came on and Croatia went from 3-1 down to 3-3 late on (he scored).

Interesting he plays on the left which means either McNeil right or maybe finally McNeil in the 10 and Cornet on the right (assuming we get a new striker in too).

According to transfer market he’s played roughly 20% of his games for Zagreb as a striker. This season playing there 4 times and scoring 4 times.

Maybe we see him as Woods replacement?

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:59 am

Can remember the Croatia v Spain knockout game at the Euros, Orsic completely changed the game when he came on and Croatia went from 3-1 down to 3-3 late on (he scored).

Interesting he plays on the left which means either McNeil right or maybe finally McNeil in the 10 and Cornet on the right (assuming we get a new striker in too).

He can play left wing, right wing, and striker, currently on 15k euros wages so wages not an issue just he'd be leaving Europen football for us, but a big wage increase might sway him

Link to Nat Philip from the Daily Mail: https://t.me/DailyMailCeleb/111636

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:06 am

He can play left wing, right wing, and striker, currently on 15k euros wages so wages not an issue just he'd be leaving Europen football for us, but a big wage increase might sway him

Perhaps playing in front of crowds could be an attraction too...Dinamo Zagreb average about 4,000 for League games

Mislav Oršić also made the 2020/21 all star Europa squad of the season along with some other great player's

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:09 am

Perhaps playing in front of crowds could be an attraction too...Dinamo Zagreb average about 4,000 for League games

So do we apparently

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:02 am

Also I can't see any report that we've bid 10m? Just a Lancs Live article suggesting they value him at that.

Think there's a later report by the same that we've actually made contact hope so, looks good.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:49 am

Seems a lot of money for him

10 million is peanuts these days.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:20 am

10 million is peanuts these days.

Tbh if he’s the difference between staying up and going down it’s good business.
Just seems high for his age and the league he plays in.

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:20 am

Think there's a later report by the same that we've actually made contact hope so, looks good.

Made contact doesn’t mean a bid of 10m is in. Maybe they value at that but we can get him for a bit less. Seems there’s genuine interest so let’s see.

It’s great that we’re clearly looking at getting Gudmundsson out of the team as he has been about as much use as a chocolate fireguard for two-three years.

The greatest issue is a centre forward though - who is the target now Benteke is a no go? Something secretive must be brewing behind the wings.

Not to dampen spirits but Maguire made that team