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Post by conyoviejo » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:44 pm

This couple get their just desserts in court tomorrow..The horrible excuses for human beings ..

That poor lad was never given a chance and the police and social services need to take a long hard look at themselves.Disgusting !!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-59489765
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Re: I certainly hope

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:48 pm

They need capital punishment the public should decide but it won’t happen it’ll be PlayStations galore & all the luxurious treats hard working folk can only dream of.

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Post by fatboy47 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:55 pm

5 pager on the way.

Know-nowts first....as ever. Rational arguments to follow.
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Re: I certainly hope

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:58 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:44 pm
This couple get their just desserts in court tomorrow..The horrible excuses for human beings ..

That poor lad was never given a chance and the police and social services need to take a long hard look at themselves.Disgusting !!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-59489765
Will spend the rest of their life in fear of being attacked, and I’m certain they will get caught at some point.

Really hit me hard this one when I read it, that poor little lad! Heartbreaking doesn’t even come close

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:04 pm

Like other cases, this one highlights how poor some part of our social services really are.
They need more money, better training and more support.
This woman had already had her own kids removed, but for some reason she wasn't deemed a risk to someone else's kid...

Back in 2000 Victoria Climbie was murdered by family and again social service missed several chances to save her, similar to this case.

There will be the usual investigation, the usual hollow speeches and then things will go back to normal....


As for these two, I'd like to think they get whole life tariffs, but we shall see.

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Post by bfcjg » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:06 pm

That poor little boy, awful human beings who are beyond contempt. At least the poor thing is st peace now and hopefully those creatures will have an horrendous life then die painfully and rot in hell.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:16 pm

Poor, poor little boy. Such a sickening case. I hope these two inhuman bastards never come out.

Also, please let's behave on this thread. This is not a subject for petty point-scoring.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:16 pm

Truly shocking.
It's impossible to comprehend this sadistic behaviour.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:30 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:16 pm
Poor, poor little boy. Such a sickening case. I hope these two inhuman bastards never come out.

Also, please let's behave on this thread. This is not a subject for petty point-scoring.

Indeed, Billy, but the lazy trash posted by the likes of Jakub has to be pointed out.
Just as an aside, being completely objective, I'd love to know the background of those responsible. Is this awful thing a one-off or yet another link in a depressing chain of violence being passed through a family's generations, I wonder.

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Post by SalouClaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:33 pm

I cried reading that. What goes through some people's minds is beyond me. Speechless.

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Post by Eloise Laws » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:34 pm

I haven’t followed this in the news in great detail, I found it far too harrowing. What little bit I did read led me to have a very restless night. How do people do such things, it’s truly unthinkable

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:34 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:30 pm
Indeed, Billy, but the lazy trash posted by the likes of Jakub has to be pointed out.
Just as an aside, being completely objective, I'd love to know the background of those responsible. Is this awful thing a one-off or yet another link in a depressing chain of violence being passed through a family's generations, I wonder.
Agree or disagree please be respectful. Say your piece & move on as this will be my last post don’t bring other people into it show more respect not for me for the young boy, good evening.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:38 pm

Words can't describe how evil some people really are. This poor little man's short time on this earth was full of fear, pain and distress..just sickening and a hard read.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:42 pm

Your initial comment, a pack of lies, Jakub, was a damn sight more disrespectful to the young lad's plight than mine, I'm afraid.
Rather than trot out the first cliche that comes to mind, I have at least attempted to work out how the hell a truly horrific thing like this continues to happen in our so-called civilised society.
You choose not to address that, fair enough, but glibly trying to claim the moral high ground is not a good look, especially for you.
A good evening to you, too.
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Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:42 pm

i just hope that, at some point in the near future, a guard forgets to lock a door or
two.

God rest your poor little soul young man.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:45 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:30 pm
Indeed, Billy, but the lazy trash posted by the likes of Jakub has to be pointed out.
Just as an aside, being completely objective, I'd love to know the background of those responsible. Is this awful thing a one-off or yet another link in a depressing chain of violence being passed through a family's generations, I wonder.
His mother is in prison for murder so you can probably have a reasonable guess about the poor lad's life and people in it.
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Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:46 pm

Saw this a while back after committal, truly awful case, almost beyond words what happened to the poor kid . One of the very very few cases where the perps deserve a termination of some type in all honesty . They’ll spend the next few yrs considering suicide that’s for sure .

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Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:52 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:42 pm
Your initial comment, a pack of lies, Jakub, was a damn sight more disrespectful to the young lad's plight than mine, I'm afraid.
Rather than trot out the first cliche that comes to mind, I have at least attempted to work out how the hell a truly horrific thing like this continues to happen in our so-called civilised society.
You choose not to address that, fair enough, but glibly trying to claim the moral high ground is not a good look, especially for you.
A good evening to you, too.
While you make good points , this type of true evil ( thankfully very rare ) would have likely found it’s way to the surface one way or another , regardless of civilised interventions.The poor lad being the conduit .

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Post by NottsClaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:53 pm

Really grim that, upsetting to read. If you haven’t, I’d suggest you don’t. I’ll always be against capital punishment and vigilantism but I have to admit if they send these to Wakefield prison and don’t hide their identities I wouldn’t lose any sleep over what happens.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:59 pm

Two very fair responses, Alarge and Notts.

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Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:04 pm

I couldn't bring myself to read all of that report, far too upsetting.

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Post by TsarBomba » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:13 pm

Utterly heartbreaking.

There’s much I could say, but it isn’t the time to do so.

RIP little man.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:15 pm

Sickening. That poor, defenceless child never stood a chance.

I hope the pair of them get the living **** kicked out of them.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:15 pm
Sickening. That poor, defenceless child never stood a chance.

I hope the pair of them get the living **** kicked out of them.
Much as I appreciate your sentiment, getting criminals to mete out punishment on behalf of society should not be the answer.

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:32 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 pm
Much as I appreciate your sentiment, getting criminals to mete out punishment on behalf of society should not be the answer.
But people who can do something like this are obviously beyond any kind of help or rehabilitation. What is the answer?

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Post by Rileybobs » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:38 pm

What a harrowing and heartbreaking story. How anyone can do this to another human being, let alone their own little boy beggars belief.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:43 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:32 pm
But people who can do something like this are obviously beyond any kind of help or rehabilitation. What is the answer?
I have no idea.

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Post by beddie » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:50 pm

I read only part of it earlier in the week, it was too upsetting to read on. They must never be let out of jail.

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Post by conyoviejo » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:45 pm

The horrible heartless bitch of a murderer has recieved a minimum of 29yrs in prison and the husband has recieved 21 yrs,hope they rot in jail.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:51 pm

A warm welcome surely awaits the pair of them.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:01 pm

I’m not reading it because I couldn’t stomach listening to much of it on the news. Don’t think there would be any shortage of volunteers to execute these **** bags. Hopefully they will get attacked in prison and spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulders. Perhaps we can save a couple of rats and use them for drug testing.

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Post by SouthLondonexile » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:32 pm

When I began my probation career, we learned about the tragic case of Maria Colwell.
46 years on the same dreadful things are happening.
I do believe the caring professions need to firm up .
It is not uncaring to ask to see the child and inspect them. It is not uncaring to challenge parents about their behaviours towards their children. Neither is it uncaring to call in the police if you are a witness to these horrible behaviours. Everyone has let this child down.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:52 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:45 pm
The horrible heartless bitch of a murderer has recieved a minimum of 29yrs in prison and the husband has recieved 21 yrs,hope they rot in jail.
I read that the cowardly bitch refused to appear in court to hear her sentencing.

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Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:09 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:52 pm
I read that the cowardly bitch refused to appear in court to hear her sentencing.
29 years is a good start..just imagine carrying that crime around in prison with you for 29 years,can't see he surviving that.....hopefully.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:33 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:44 pm
This couple get their just desserts in court tomorrow..The horrible excuses for human beings ..

That poor lad was never given a chance and the police and social services need to take a long hard look at themselves.Disgusting !!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-59489765
Throw away the key.........

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Post by conyoviejo » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:49 pm

Since being held in prison for the duration of her trial, Tustin has reportedly suffered suicidal thoughts and two suicide attempts.
It also reported that she has been bullied by other inmates while in detention awaiting trial.

Suicide is too much of an easy way out for her,she should suffer in Prison until she dies.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:54 pm

Typical cowardly bully, can give it out but can't take it.

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Post by Murger » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:31 pm

Horrible, scummy bastards. With any luck, they won't see the end of their terms.

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Post by fatboy47 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:55 pm

SouthLondonexile wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:32 pm

I do believe the caring professions need to firm up .
It is not uncaring to ask to see the child and inspect them.

It's not uncaring to prioritise the services that protect children, to promote them as something vital rather than as a whipping boy for the red tops and hard of thinking, and to fund them accordingly....

Like most other professions 99% of social workers do a sh1tty, high pressured, stressful and undervalued job. But let's not use the existence of these 2 animals to fuel our empty headed prejudices eh.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:22 pm

Good news, the case is being referred to the Attorney General, so they can have their sentences extended.

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Post by conyoviejo » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:25 pm

8-) u
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:22 pm
Good news, the case is being referred to the Attorney General, so they can have their sentences extended.
Great news Sydney,but I'd like to see their NECKS EXTENDED!

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Post by BigChaCha » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:44 pm

I am one of those people that very rarely has a cry, even at funerals but I don't mind saying that I shed a few tears for this lad!... The boy saying "nobody loves me", "nobody is going to feed me" really hit me hard.

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Post by Stevie Morgan » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:50 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:55 pm
It's not uncaring to prioritise the services that protect children, to promote them as something vital rather than as a whipping boy for the red tops and hard of thinking, and to fund them accordingly....

Like most other professions 99% of social workers do a sh1tty, high pressured, stressful and undervalued job. But let's not use the existence of these 2 animals to fuel our empty headed prejudices eh.
It's easy to criticise isn't it when you haven't experienced the real world effect of cuts on front line services. It's a thankless job at the best of times, with the demands growing all the time. Sadly, these cases can often be linked to political choices.
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