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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:52 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:44 pm
Max on mediums. Gambling on further stoppages. Otherwise his tyres won't last 33 laps.
They won't last half that but will the hards??

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:57 pm

VSC means tyres will last longer,

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by claretburns » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:04 pm

The actual race on track is a bit of a procession, but it is a very entertaining race with the collisions, Hamilton chasing down Verstappen.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:05 pm

If these two can pull out 25 seconds to Ocon they can pit and still be first or second.

She throws the dice first.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:06 pm

Another VSC helps a lot, probably more so for Lewis.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:13 pm

This season has been spoiled by these curbs and overtaking outside them.
They should either tarmac everything between the walls and let them race OR
Paint everything outside the curb blue call it water and if you touch it you give up the place. Far too many incidents bringing different decisions at each race.
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:22 pm

Pick the bones out of that one.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by taio » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:22 pm

Brilliant stuff

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:24 pm

Don’t think Merc had told Lewis he was allowed to pass and max slowed and Lewis lifted and wouldn’t pass.
Think it’s a miss communication by Merc.
But max has now to let him past.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:27 pm

This is hilarious

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:27 pm

Surely Max still has to let Lewis past.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:28 pm

5 second penalty for Max....

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Bosscat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:29 pm

And they say F1 is boring 😂😂😂

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:29 pm

5 second penalty for Max....

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by claretburns » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:30 pm

Max did nothing wrong, not his fault the communication between FIA and Merc or Merc and Hamilton is messing up. He slowed down to allow Hamilton pass, with plenty of room, and Hamilton went into the back of him.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:31 pm

Masi and the stewards are a disgrace.

There has been far too much ******* round inrace by the FIA - now no one knows what the **** is going on.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:33 pm

Max paying the price of trying to run mediums for 35 laps. Can't now stop for softs for fastest lap as he will be behind Ocon due to 5 second penalty.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:33 pm

This is superb. Better than the Button v Vettel Canada race in 2011. And that was a belter

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Shaggy » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:35 pm

The race has been ruined by the race director.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:38 pm

what position is Jensen Button ?

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:39 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:35 pm
The race has been ruined by the race director.

Seems to be the case every race these days

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:40 pm

Get in there Lewis.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:41 pm

Equal points into the last race hopefully means Max can't take Lewis out to win the title.
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by taio » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:43 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:41 pm
Equal points into the last race hopefully means Max can't take Lewis out to win the title.
Verstappen has won more races so sits top despite equal points

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by PeterWilton » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:46 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:35 pm
The race has been ruined by the race director.
Nonsense. Max was ordered to give the place back and then didn't. He got a time penalty because of the advantage he gained and didn't relinquish, and then gave the place back anyway but by then he'd already got the penalty.

Max was a disgrace today.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by claretburns » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:49 pm

PeterWilton wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:46 pm
Nonsense. Max was ordered to give the place back and then didn't. He got a time penalty because of the advantage he gained and didn't relinquish, and then gave the place back anyway but by then he'd already got the penalty.

Max was a disgrace today.
He slowed massively to give the place back and Hamilton went into the back of him, not Max's fault the communication between Merc and Hamilton was bad.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm

PeterWilton wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:46 pm
Nonsense. Max was ordered to give the place back and then didn't. He got a time penalty because of the advantage he gained and didn't relinquish, and then gave the place back anyway but by then he'd already got the penalty.

Max was a disgrace today.
Tell me you're a Hamilton fanboi without telling me you're a Hamilton fanboi!

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:52 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm
Tell me you're a Hamilton fanboi without telling me you're a Hamilton fanboi!
Support an English driver over a Dutch one every day.
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:53 pm

Firstly, how is that circuit fit for F1?

Secondly, petulant and at times dangerous driving by Verstappen. He's lucky to have finished the race in second, but he showed his immaturity and hot-headedness today.

Driver of the day - haha!
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:54 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:52 pm
Support an English driver over a Dutch one every day.
You telling me to support one of my own over someone who isn't?

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:56 pm

Nope. I'm telling you what I am doing. You can do what the hell you like.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:56 pm

claretburns wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:49 pm
He slowed massively to give the place back and Hamilton went into the back of him, not Max's fault the communication between Merc and Hamilton was bad.
You don't move around like that if you're giving a place back. Max caused so much unnecessary carnage. I love wheel to wheel racing, but he doesn't do that, he just brakes late and squeezes everyone. On this track he could have caused some real damage to someone today. If he wasn't so quick he'd be so unpopular he'd never get a seat

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Bosscat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:56 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm
Tell me you're a Hamilton fanboi without telling me you're a Hamilton fanboi!
Tell me you're a Verstappenvagrant without telling me you're a Verstappenvagrant!

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by PeterWilton » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:57 pm

claretburns wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:49 pm
He slowed massively to give the place back and Hamilton went into the back of him, not Max's fault the communication between Merc and Hamilton was bad.
He left Lewis space on the inside and then moved towards the inside. He was definitely ******* around. I disagree with Lewis that he brake-checked him but what was that movement about? That was disgraceful.

What he was trying to do (until that movement left) was let Lewis past and then go into the DRS zone behind him with DRS so he can try and over take him immediately, similar to how he tried a bit later before giving the place up properly.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:00 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:53 pm
Firstly, how is that circuit fit for F1?

Secondly, petulant and at times dangerous driving by Verstappen. He's lucky to have finished the race in second, but he showed his immaturity and hot-headedness today.

Driver of the day - haha!
More fit than several others, ie Monaco.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by PeterWilton » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:00 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm
Tell me you're a Hamilton fanboi without telling me you're a Hamilton fanboi!
I know it's tough for some people to understand but it's entirely possible that other people can disagree with you for actually valid reasons. Is this how you go through life, just thinking that anyone who disagrees with you much disagree with you for reasons others than you being wrong?

You're not even right about which driver i'm a fanboi of. It's definitely Lando.
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Bosscat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:00 pm

Regardless of what happened in the race this evening ... my god it sets up a cracker for the final one of the season don't it 😁...
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:01 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:53 pm
Firstly, how is that circuit fit for F1?

Secondly, petulant and at times dangerous driving by Verstappen. He's lucky to have finished the race in second, but he showed his immaturity and hot-headedness today.

Driver of the day - haha!
The most dangerous move of the season was Lewis at Silverstone, could have killed Max and ten years ago would have.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:04 pm

If max has touched his brakes, he could get disqualified for dangerous driving.

In with the Stewards in 40 minutes.

As long as he didn’t brake he should be ok.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by PeterWilton » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm

Anthony Davidson's just made the same point i made about Max trying to get into the DRS zone <1.0 seconds behind Lewis after giving the place back.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:01 pm
The most dangerous move of the season was Lewis at Silverstone, could have killed Max and ten years ago would have.
Maybe, but I'm talking about today's race where Verstappen drove in a reckless and seemingly petulant manner.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:13 pm

PeterWilton wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm
Anthony Davidson's just made the same point i made about Max trying to get into the DRS zone <1.0 seconds behind Lewis after giving the place back.
I think this is the nail on the head. Whether Max hit the brakes remains to be seen.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:16 pm

Max could quite easily have moved fully right or left and there wouldn’t have been a problem. He knew what he was doing. His own crew told him over the radio he’d been naughty.
Onwards and upwards. What a finale.
I hate the rules and regs of what is essentially a sport but what an entertainment.
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Re: Saudi GP

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:28 pm

Hamilton must be favourite to win the title now, Max looks like the pressure is getting to him as the climax nears, I guess that's the difference between a guy who's got 7 titles to his name, and a guy who's still chasing his first.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:30 pm

Take off the result for the farcical Belgium Grand Prix and it would be an easier job for Hamilton

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:32 pm

All set up nicely for next weekend for super cool Lewis to plss all over Hothead Verstappen's chips
Brilliant entertainment,chance Verstappen might even get disqualified for some of that reckless driving

As always well played Lewis...the greatest F1 Driver in the history of the sport.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:38 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm
Maybe, but I'm talking about today's race where Verstappen drove in a reckless and seemingly petulant manner.
I would disagree, perhaps you didn’t watch the senior Schumacher .

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Bosscat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:39 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:32 pm
All set up nicely for next weekend for super cool Lewis to plss all over Hothead Verstappen's chips
Brilliant entertainment,chance Verstappen might even get disqualified for some of that reckless driving

As always well played Lewis...the greatest F1 Driver in the history of the sport.
I hope they don't disqualify Verstappen (even if he does deserve it) ... next week is set up nicely for a cracker 🙂

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:41 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:13 pm
I think this is the nail on the head. Whether Max hit the brakes remains to be seen.
The sky pad shows them both going down the gears to slow down.
The confusion is Lewis did not know he was slowing to let him past.
Think the Damon Schy incident, if Damon had waited another corner he would have been world champion.

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Re: Saudi GP

Post by ArnoldBenson » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:52 pm

I believe the brilliant climax to the F1 season takes place at the same time as our game against West Ham. Do you think they'll put it on the big screens if we ask nicely.

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