Fulham was mid May-we never won a PL game again after that during the season with around 5 games to go
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All those games were in the last 33 where it was stated we have won 1warksclaret wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:39 amFulham was mid May-we never won a PL game again after that during the season with around 5 games to go
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5 in the last 33 league games I think.
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It's not the so-called support that's the problem, it's the entrenched view of a number on here that they need the opposition to win to justify their viewpoint that we are rubbish.superdimitri wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:56 amOnce again people fail to see the difference between posting on a message board and supporting the team at games.
Just because people post negative things on here doesn't mean they don't support the team.
To be a fan is to be concerned. I think those that like to point fingers on these concerned fans not attending games either don't attend themselves, or they aren't fans themselves without any concern for the teams position.
Get a grip and stop berating others. I'm not too worried yet, but I have the capacity to see why others are without sitting on some super fan high horse.
Stop the narrow minded hate and support you fellow fans.
In a number of games you feel that some want opposition players to do well just so they can say "I told you so".
It also seems that you can criticise our players, but it's completely off-limits to point out any limitations in players and managers who play for any of our rivals in the Premier league.
And you can bet that if we were to get relegated this season there will be a certain zeal with regards to certain comments, just so they can have that smug feeling, knowing they were right all along.
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And if that was any other team in any division everybody would be saying how is he still in a job but somehow Dyche is the exception to this. I'm on the fence at the moment but this cannot carry on, 2 massive games coming up and 4 points is the bare minimum we require.
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Do you really think that's the case? There may be one or two posters who seem to revel in a defeat but I'd say the majority (especially the negative ones) react badly as they genuinely care for Burnley and believe we are better than we are currently showing ourselves to be.Spijed wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:21 amIt's not the so-called support that's the problem, it's the entrenched view of a number on here that they need the opposition to win to justify their viewpoint that we are rubbish.
In a number of games you feel that some want opposition players to do well just so they can say "I told you so".
It also seems that you can criticise our players, but it's completely off-limits to point out any limitations in players and managers who play for any of our rivals in the Premier league.
And you can bet that if we were to get relegated this season there will be a certain zeal with regards to certain comments, just so they can have that smug feeling, knowing they were right all along.
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The problem we've given ourselves is that having not beaten anyone in the lower reaches of the table yet, including Norwich and Newcastle (apart from Brentford) we're going to have to start beating the "better" sides, so games like West Ham and Villa have to become targets for serious points and that makes life extremely difficult.
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Can we include the wins from the season before just to boost things up & throw more gloss at it the brutal truth is things aren’t good & have been steadily deteriorating for a few season we get the odd wins which paper over the cracks until another bad run surfaces.
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Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:28 am
Can we include the wins from the season before just to boost things up & throw more gloss at it the brutal truth is things aren’t good & have been steadily deteriorating for a few season we get the odd wins which paper over the cracks until another bad run surfaces.
It was in response to the lie about 1 win in 33. Read through things slowly rather then jumping in and being wrong as usual.
Hopefully this doesn't get on your wick though hate you to say something stupid
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I’ve read every single post on the thread & the impression is that certain posters are deliberately trying to alter & twist statistics to make the picture look rosier than it is, looking at the league table tells me what I need to know without taking too much notice of anything else.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:29 amIt was in response to the lie about 1 win in 33. Read through things slowly rather then jumping in and being wrong as usual.
Hopefully this doesn't get on your wick though hate you to say something stupid
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Does that include the post about 1 win in 33 games - the 1 I was replying to ? which you seemed to be bothered about my factual reply more than the incorrect post ?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:35 amI’ve read every single post on the thread & the impression is that certain posters are deliberately trying to alter & twist statistics to make the picture look rosier than it is, looking at the league table tells me what I need to know without taking too much notice of anything else.
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Let me tell you something I’m probably wasting my time but I’ll try, whatever happened last season or any other previous seasons does not impact or influence this season at all in any shape or form, when any new season starts we all start off on zero points a continuation doesn’t run on from any other previous seasons, I don’t care about what happened previously because it doesn’t change this season & where we are now. Today doesn’t change yesterday or tomorrow.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:45 amDoes that include the post about 1 win in 33 games - the 1 I was replying to ? which you seemed to be bothered about my factual reply more than the incorrect post ?
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Correct you are wasting your time, because you are incapable of answering what you are asked.
Given your viewpoints on certain things though, maybe that is a good thing
Given your viewpoints on certain things though, maybe that is a good thing
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Because it’s a silly question whatever happened last season has no bearing to our current predicament, I don’t understand why some people are dragging it up the wins against wolves & palace & Everton aren’t going to magically morph into points we’ve dropped already against Norwich palace & most recently Newcastle.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:54 amCorrect you are wasting your time, because you are incapable of answering what you are asked.
Given your viewpoints on certain things though, maybe that is a good thing
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Was all you really needed to say
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This is exactly it, anyone who was at the Orient game is a true Burnley fan, anyone who was sat through the Cotterill long winless run is a true Burnley fan. There's a real weird obsession on here with pretending people aren't fans, super fan alert. I was sat there watching Burnley under Cotterill so quite frankly I will give my opinion regardless of if it is deemed negative or not. I have earnt the rightboyyanno wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:22 amDo you really think that's the case? There may be one or two posters who seem to revel in a defeat but I'd say the majority (especially the negative ones) react badly as they genuinely care for Burnley and believe we are better than we are currently showing ourselves to be.
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I get what you're saying. I see it as two extremes clashing. Everyone is different of course, but these arguments seem to always be between people who think the club can do no wrong and those who think it can do no right.Spijed wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:21 amIt's not the so-called support that's the problem, it's the entrenched view of a number on here that they need the opposition to win to justify their viewpoint that we are rubbish.
In a number of games you feel that some want opposition players to do well just so they can say "I told you so".
It also seems that you can criticise our players, but it's completely off-limits to point out any limitations in players and managers who play for any of our rivals in the Premier league.
And you can bet that if we were to get relegated this season there will be a certain zeal with regards to certain comments, just so they can have that smug feeling, knowing they were right all along.
If these fans met in a pub in all likelihood they'd be able to debate without resorting to the arguments on here but both parties need to compromise.
It's not about being right. No one here is an expert, what we think has no impact on the support for the team or the club.
You'll have fans who've been season ticket owners for years who are like that. The argument that they are not fans or don't go to games just doesn't stick anyway, if so, why would they even bother to post here? They post because they want to see the club do better and it's frustrating to see when we don't.
Anyway, I've been on both ends of KRBFC and his posts. He dips low sometimes but I never really doubt his or anyone's support for the club and I think it's pretty poor form, as fans of the same club we point fingers at people who have different opinions. We should be welcome for any support, no matter how critical it may be.
As for turning up when the **** hits the fan I don't think that has anything to do with proving a point, but more to do with people being in a bad mood. Typically message boards generate more content when there's a problem to be solved and not so much when there isn't. I don't think you'll find any other football message board different from here because of this, even teams like Man City will have fans criticizing and wanting more. In fact, you won't find any message board period that doesn't.
This just wouldn't be an interesting place if we just came here to discuss how well we do each week. Some fans may be more critical than others but I see this as their desire to see us do better than a lack of perspective of what we do right. Remember, it's also easy to misinterpret someones demeanor when you're just reading text.
I still think we'll be okay because having a crap fist half to the season always gives you time to turn it around. The time to panic is when you lose form later in the season with no time to correct it.
I hope we can stick together as fans and stop the arguing. It's clear the new owners want to correct a lot of mistakes made in the past so even if we get relegated I still see us having a better fortune in the long term compared to the previous ownership.
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Good postsuperdimitri wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:02 amI get what you're saying. I see it as two extremes clashing. Everyone is different of course, but these arguments seem to always be between people who think the club can do no wrong and those who think it can do no right.
If these fans met in a pub in all likelihood they'd be able to debate without resorting to the arguments on here but both parties need to compromise.
It's not about being right. No one here is an expert, what we think has no impact on the support for the team or the club.
You'll have fans who've been season ticket owners for years who are like that. The argument that they are not fans or don't go to games just doesn't stick anyway, if so, why would they even bother to post here? They post because they want to see the club do better and it's frustrating to see when we don't.
Anyway, I've been on both ends of KRBFC and his posts. He dips low sometimes but I never really doubt his or anyone's support for the club and I think it's pretty poor form, as fans of the same club we point fingers at people who have different opinions. We should be welcome for any support, no matter how critical it may be.
As for turning up when the **** hits the fan I don't think that has anything to do with proving a point, but more to do with people being in a bad mood. Typically message boards generate more content when there's a problem to be solved and not so much when there isn't. I don't think you'll find any other football message board different from here because of this, even teams like Man City will have fans criticizing and wanting more. In fact, you won't find any message board period that doesn't.
This just wouldn't be an interesting place if we just came here to discuss how well we do each week. Some fans may be more critical than others but I see this as their desire to see us do better than a lack of perspective of what we do right. Remember, it's also easy to misinterpret someones demeanor when you're just reading text.
I still think we'll be okay because having a crap fist half to the season always gives you time to turn it around. The time to panic is when you lose form later in the season with no time to correct it.
I hope we can stick together as fans and stop the arguing. It's clear the new owners want to correct a lot of mistakes made in the past so even if we get relegated I still see us having a better fortune in the long term compared to the previous ownership.