Getting our derbies back

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Getting our derbies back

Post by Papabendi » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:06 pm

One upside of a potential relegation (and I now rate that at about an 80% likelihood) is that we will get our games back against Blackpool, PNE and BR next season (unless god forbid, they make it out).

Must say I have missed them, so at least one thing to look forward to.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:11 pm

If we get on a bit of a slide we could have Accy and Rochdale 😃
Its not all doom and gloom !

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:13 pm

Another positive would be the lack of available streams for our games. The pain our games bring to those watching on TV and forcing them on here to have a meltdown maybe lack of availability would be a good thing for everyone

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:15 pm

Slide a bit further, RandomC, we could renew our Ancient Rivalry with Stockport. ;)
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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:16 pm

Agreed. Relegation would not be the end of the world as long if Dyche stays in charge. there could be a lot of interesting games, weekends away and, most importantly, wins.
I still think we'll come good and hit a decent streak .

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:20 pm

Rovers are 4th and in very good form with one of the better managers in the league. If we do drop, that derby isn’t guaranteed.
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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Beagle » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:26 pm

It was great fun those few years after we first came back down when we were playing Rovers, PNE, Blackpool, Bolton and the Yorkshire sides regularly. I do believe we’ll stay up this season but I hope we get one of the above in the cup.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:32 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:20 pm
Rovers are 4th and in very good form with one of the better managers in the league. If we do drop, that derby isn’t guaranteed.
Had hoped they'd carry on their trend and, sacked him a while back.
He's done, still is, doing a good job over at the Stable Yard.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:32 pm

Well, we either stay up and we’re happy, or we go down, beat them all and we’re also happy. As long as Alan is sensible I don’t think we’d struggle in the championship anymore. 6 years in the prem has given us a team capable of winning that league. Just look at Fulham, and they were absolutely dogshit compared to us last year.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Safron » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:43 pm

A sensible thread with no name-calling or belittling what next😜
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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:43 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:32 pm
Well, we either stay up and we’re happy, or we go down, beat them all and we’re also happy. As long as Alan is sensible I don’t think we’d struggle in the championship anymore. 6 years in the prem has given us a team capable of winning that league. Just look at Fulham, and they were absolutely dogshit compared to us last year.
Fulham kept nearly there full team and then signed further players.

We are losing half our squad and are in debt. As Tony said on another page I imagine financially we will be in a bad spot

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:44 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:06 pm
One upside of a potential relegation (and I now rate that at about an 80% likelihood) is that we will get our games back against Blackpool, PNE and BR next season (unless god forbid, they make it out).

Must say I have missed them, so at least one thing to look forward to.
80% :lol:

A lot of money to be made with the bookies rating us just short of evens.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:05 pm

We would be screwed if we didn't bounce back. There's considerable debt to be serviced. Also, the current running costs are for an EPL setup - the cost-cutting would be eminence.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claret2018 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:11 pm

Would much prefer us to be in championship, which let’s face it is and always has been our level.

I don’t really care about the financial side, I watch the team not the accounts.

Would be a much more enjoyable match day experience if we got relegated for me

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:13 pm

Eminence cost -cutting would be a Cardinal sin...

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:13 pm

Pope would have to go...
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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:19 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:11 pm
Would much prefer us to be in championship, which let’s face it is and always has been our level.

I don’t really care about the financial side, I watch the team not the accounts.

Would be a much more enjoyable match day experience if we got relegated for me
I would suggest you would care about the accounts if we did a Bolton/Wigan/ bury to a further extent

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Papabendi » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:22 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:11 pm
Would much prefer us to be in championship, which let’s face it is and always has been our level.

I don’t really care about the financial side, I watch the team not the accounts.

Would be a much more enjoyable match day experience if we got relegated for me
The finances drive the kind of team you watch.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by BleedingClaret » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:30 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:20 pm
Rovers are 4th and in very good form with one of the better managers in the league. If we do drop, that derby isn’t guaranteed.
Don't :(

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:30 pm

I'm not overly pleased with the way this season has gone, but we're 3 points from safety with a game in hand, and, more importantly, 24 games still to play, so it's hardly 80% chance of relegation.

8% maybe.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:36 pm

Just checking that people are aware that you can lose derbies as well as win them

Have I missed PNE, Blackpool and Rovers fans lording it over us?

Not in the slightest
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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:38 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:30 pm
I'm not overly pleased with the way this season has gone, but we're 3 points from safety with a game in hand, and, more importantly, 24 games still to play, so it's hardly 80% chance of relegation.

8% maybe.
8% chance of relegation ?

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:38 pm

It's nearer 8 than 80.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:41 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:38 pm
It's nearer 8 than 80.
Thats slightly different 😉

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Papabendi » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:45 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:30 pm
I'm not overly pleased with the way this season has gone, but we're 3 points from safety with a game in hand, and, more importantly, 24 games still to play, so it's hardly 80% chance of relegation.

8% maybe.
I can see forecasting isn't really your thing.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:47 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:30 pm
I'm not overly pleased with the way this season has gone, but we're 3 points from safety with a game in hand, and, more importantly, 24 games still to play, so it's hardly 80% chance of relegation.

8% maybe.
Bookmakers prices suggest around a 50% chance of relegation.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretandy » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:11 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:13 pm
Another positive would be the lack of available streams for our games. The pain our games bring to those watching on TV and forcing them on here to have a meltdown maybe lack of availability would be a good thing for everyone
All championship games are streamed....

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:13 pm

claretandy wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:11 pm
All championship games are streamed....
Oh well lets hope for league 1 then. If some can't cope with losing to teams like we do now, not sure losing to the likes of Cardiff and Luton would be good for them.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretburns » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:47 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:13 pm
Oh well lets hope for league 1 then. If some can't cope with losing to teams like we do now, not sure losing to the likes of Cardiff and Luton would be good for them.
I think League One is streamed as well, as well as League Two :lol: That EFL iFollow thing which you subscribe to and get to watch all your teams games.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:48 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:47 pm
I think League One is streamed as well, as well as League Two :lol: That EFL iFollow thing which you subscribe to and get to watch all your teams games.
FFS :D

What about National league

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretburns » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:53 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:48 pm
FFS :D

What about National league
I think you're safe there, so after a 3-0 defeat to Boreham Wood, hopefully not much moaning on here. :D

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:32 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:53 pm
I think you're safe there, so after a 3-0 defeat to Boreham Wood, hopefully not much moaning on here. :D
Done, where do we sign up :D

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:50 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:15 pm
Slide a bit further, RandomC, we could renew our Ancient Rivalry with Stockport. ;)
A bit further still and you could get a local game.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Conroy92 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:00 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:13 pm
Another positive would be the lack of available streams for our games. The pain our games bring to those watching on TV and forcing them on here to have a meltdown maybe lack of availability would be a good thing for everyone
It's the same style of football played on TV as it is at the Turf. If you want people to stop complaining about how poor we are maybe it's the football that needs to change? Just a thought.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:13 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:13 pm
Eminence cost -cutting would be a Cardinal sin...
Heh. Don't know how that ended up there. I'll pray for forgiveness.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:15 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:00 pm
It's the same style of football played on TV as it is at the Turf. If you want people to stop complaining about how poor we are maybe it's the football that needs to change? Just a thought.
Or just turn your tv over if it is causing someone sat at home such anger

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Conroy92 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:22 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:15 pm
Or just turn your tv over if it is causing someone sat at home such anger
Or you could just not come on here if you don't like to hear people's opinions?

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:28 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:22 pm
Or you could just not come on here if you don't like to hear people's opinions?
I am fine with peoples opinions just offering some free advice, if you don't like something on tv, turn over. It almost sounds natural.

I don't watch any soaps I find them mind numbing, isn't that a better approach than watching them and then whinging about them ?

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Conroy92 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:38 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:28 pm
I am fine with peoples opinions just offering some free advice, if you don't like something on tv, turn over. It almost sounds natural.

I don't watch any soaps I find them mind numbing, isn't that a better approach than watching them and then whinging about them ?
If you don't like seeing something negative on here you could just change over to another site? Is that not the same thing?!
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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by SydneyClaret » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:38 pm

The best thing about the Championship was the competitiveness. Going into games with an equal chance, not being dominated possession wise. I’d look forward to that again.

Burnley (and Dyche) are absolutely set up for Championship football. Just a shame we don’t seem to be able to make that next step up like Wolves, West Ham etc. I know it’s a money thing but I thought that’s why we were bought. I’m starting to be of the belief that the new board don’t actually have any money. I also don’t believe Dyche is capable either. He is a magnificent manager at Championship level and has worked wonders keeping us up but could he cut it next level?

Sorry if it sounds a bit negative. Isn’t meant to.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by HunterST_BFC » Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:32 pm

We are not going down.

And I certainly don't want the Unspeakables to go up.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:42 pm

Frightening prospect, down amongst the dead men from where we have been for several years.
cant think of anything more mundane than awful games against rovers and preston or blackpool .

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:26 am

No chance we are going down and no chance on Rovers or PNE doing the impossible and coming up

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Jimmymaccer » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:06 am

I seem to remember the Horse Botherers thinking Man U was their local derby at one stage………

Must admit, these days I’m beginning to think the same :D

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Loyalclaret » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:31 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:43 pm
Fulham kept nearly there full team and then signed further players.

We are losing half our squad and are in debt. As Tony said on another page I imagine financially we will be in a bad spot
Was slightly shocked to read Mr Pace saying the other day we would be financially better of going down and it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I miss the derbies but would not swap them for playing the best teams in the country

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:54 am

Conroy92 wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:38 pm
If you don't like seeing something negative on here you could just change over to another site? Is that not the same thing?!
If I could find something as funny as some of the meltdowns on here I would.

See there is a difference between us established already, if I could find something more enjoyable I would tune into that, you on the other hand would prefer to sit at home and get all angry at a football match you aren't even at rather than watch a different game that would make you happy,

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:40 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:54 am
If I could find something as funny as some of the meltdowns on here I would.

See there is a difference between us established already, if I could find something more enjoyable I would tune into that, you on the other hand would prefer to sit at home and get all angry at a football match you aren't even at rather than watch a different game that would make you happy,
:D I keep wondering how you expect me to watch a TV channel while I'm at the turf. I love Burnley, I've invested a lot and time and money into them, if I want to complain about what I'm watching I will, just as I will celebrate when we are playing well.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:42 am

Conroy92 wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:40 am
:D I keep wondering how you expect me to watch a TV channel while I'm at the turf. I love Burnley, I've invested a lot and time and money into them, if I want to complain about what I'm watching I will, just as I will celebrate when we are playing well.
I presumed the fact you got so defensive when I have repeatedly said those who don't go to games yet do nothing but criticise should turn over the channel and watch something else was you putting yourself in that group.

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:01 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:42 am
I presumed the fact you got so defensive when I have repeatedly said those who don't go to games yet do nothing but criticise should turn over the channel and watch something else was you putting yourself in that group.
😂 At no point have I been defensive, just enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of "don't watch the game if you don't enjoy it, but I won't leave the site if I don't enjoy it" :D :D

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Re: Getting our derbies back

Post by mill hill claret » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:22 am

Stuff tye local derbies..znd the championship .I want premier league football

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