Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

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Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:25 pm

Here we go it’s happening.

What effect will this have on our attendances ? This is going to be catastrophic, there will be about 12k on.

There’s loads of people I know who aren’t jabbed and go on the Turf.

I’d say the CFS will be the most affected.

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Post by mikeS » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:30 pm

If it will help stem the spread of Covid great.
If it helps Burnley take three points great.
If it helps football continue through to the Spring great.
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Post by MrTopTier » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:31 pm

:lol: :lol:

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:34 pm

I imagine the crowd won't be that much different, there aren't enough tin foil idiots that will see the crowd drop to 12k

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Post by bpgburn » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:37 pm

More people mysteriously collapsing at matches if you was to listen to some on here !

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Post by Venkys4eva » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:41 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:25 pm


There’s loads of people I know who aren’t jabbed and go on the Turf.

I’d say the CFS will be the most affected.
Sounds like its a good idea then

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:48 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:25 pm
Here we go it’s happening.

What effect will this have on our attendances ? This is going to be catastrophic, there will be about 12k on.

There’s loads of people I know who aren’t jabbed and go on the Turf.

I’d say the CFS will be the most affected.
Reported where? Or just your thoughts?

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:49 pm

Kids are still exempt aren't they?

Mine has only the one jab so far

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:51 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:48 pm
Reported where? Or just your thoughts?
It’s in the papers now

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:58 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:51 pm
It’s in the papers now
They're only reporting it... Could... Happen, nothing official yet.

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:00 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:25 pm
Here we go it’s happening.

What effect will this have on our attendances ? This is going to be catastrophic, there will be about 12k on.

There’s loads of people I know who aren’t jabbed and go on the Turf.

I’d say the CFS will be the most affected.
Oh well, they know what to do if they want to attend.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:01 pm

Big problem straight away with this is mine is on my phone and the app will require a decent signal to bring it up

I hope the it works better outside the ground than it does in it

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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:02 pm

The cynic in me suggests it's been thrown out there to help distract from the Xmas party shambles.
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Post by barba » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:04 pm

Plan B including work from home and vaccine passports will cost the economy £800m per week.

Can't see the rationale when deaths and hospitalisations are trending down. I'm jabbed and had Covid but won't show one in any domestic setting.

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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:04 pm

But if they do bring them in and you're sitting in the Longside Upper best get there early :D

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:01 pm
Big problem straight away with this is mine is on my phone and the app will require a decent signal to bring it up

I hope the it works better outside the ground than it does in it
Print it out... Or screenshot it, no need for WiFi then
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Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:08 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:02 pm
The cynic in me suggests it's been thrown out there to help distract from the Xmas party shambles.
I think that's an absolute guarantee with the shambles that's come out (and still coming out, apparently there were three parties!!!).

However, I also feel it's the right thing to do, working from home especially seems entirely prudent when there are still a few questions to confirm over Omicron. There is no plus to working in an office in any case, we're on a rota'd attendance programme at BT and the offices are mostly empty anyway. It's serving no purpose. Vaccine passports shouldn't really make much of a dent in things either, the ones who have voluntarily chosen to not vaccinate themselves understood the sacrifices they were making to abide by their insane stance.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:12 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:08 pm
I think that's an absolute guarantee with the shambles that's come out (and still coming out, apparently there were three parties!!!).

However, I also feel it's the right thing to do, working from home especially seems entirely prudent when there are still a few questions to confirm over Omicron. There is no plus to working in an office in any case, we're on a rota'd attendance programme at BT and the offices are mostly empty anyway. It's serving no purpose. Vaccine passports shouldn't really make much of a dent in things either, the ones who have voluntarily chosen to not vaccinate themselves understood the sacrifices they were making to abide by their insane stance.
If that doesn't get them gunning for you Jedi then nothing will

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:15 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:12 pm
If that doesn't get them gunning for you Jedi then nothing will
I’m actually a pretty docile, placid person Lancaster in general - this is the one thing i will be entirely outspoken on to anyone at anytime. I have good reason to on a personal level, that I won’t share here.
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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:15 pm

Cabinet meeting this afternoon with a briefing at 5pm to the public.

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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:18 pm

Problem is once measures like this come in it's hard to see them being dropped.
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Post by StuffyClaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:19 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:15 pm
I’m actually a pretty docile, placid person Lancaster in general - this is the one thing i will be entirely outspoken on to anyone at anytime. I have good reason to on a personal level, that I won’t share here.
Spoken like a true Jedi

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Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:21 pm

If vaccine passports are needed. What is the quickest way of getting a paper one if you don’t have a computer or smart phone? And how long does it last?

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Post by berbs78 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:22 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:08 pm
I think that's an absolute guarantee with the shambles that's come out (and still coming out, apparently there were three parties!!!).

However, I also feel it's the right thing to do, working from home especially seems entirely prudent when there are still a few questions to confirm over Omicron. There is no plus to working in an office in any case, we're on a rota'd attendance programme at BT and the offices are mostly empty anyway. It's serving no purpose. Vaccine passports shouldn't really make much of a dent in things either, the ones who have voluntarily chosen to not vaccinate themselves understood the sacrifices they were making to abide by their insane stance.
You think that segregating people within society because of their different beliefs is the right thing to do? History suggests otherwise

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Post by elwaclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:23 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:21 pm
If vaccine passports are needed. What is the quickest way of getting a paper one if you don’t have a computer or smart phone? And how long does it last?
They have been saying annual vaccines are going to be required, so 12 months I would guess.

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:24 pm

They’ll need a few hundred extra staff at TM to check passports - ain’t going to happen

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Post by barba » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:25 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:18 pm
Problem is once measures like this come in it's hard to see them being dropped.
Could easily be expanded.

"Sorry sir you don't have enough alcohol units on your medical passport for a beer"

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:25 pm

berbs78 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:22 pm
You think that segregating people within society because of their different beliefs is the right thing to do? History suggests otherwise
Don't you f**king dare to go there. Don't you f**king dare.

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Post by FCBurnley » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:26 pm

Doesn’t affect me either way but I find it weird that registered sex offenders can attend and even sit next to your son or daughter but unvaccinated supporters might be banned especially as the vaccinated can still catch and spread the Virus.
Will unvaccinated season ticket holders get refunds ? And will turnstiles open 12 hours early to avoid the inevitable delays !!

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Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:27 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:23 pm
They have been saying annual vaccines are going to be required, so 12 months I would guess.
Thanks elwaclaret. So no negative test required for twelve months? Any ideas about the quickest way to get a paper copy anybody?

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Post by Stayingup » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:27 pm

Venkys4eva wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:41 pm
Sounds like its a good idea then
Why?

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:28 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:21 pm
If vaccine passports are needed. What is the quickest way of getting a paper one if you don’t have a computer or smart phone? And how long does it last?
You obviously have one or the other to post on here

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:29 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:27 pm
Thanks elwaclaret. So no negative test required for twelve months? Any ideas about the quickest way to get a paper copy anybody?
Your best bet on such short notice is to ring your doctors as they will have evidence of your vaccination status

I know you haven't a phone, but the MyGP app is the way to go

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:29 pm

berbs78 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:22 pm
You think that segregating people within society because of their different beliefs is the right thing to do? History suggests otherwise
There is no historical context for segregation that is in anyway similar to Covid-19 vaccine uptake, it’s not racial or religious and therefore not something you are powerless to change - it’s a choice. If you choose to not take the vaccine, for whatever reason (barring a medical exemption, which to be clear is totally separate to how I feel) you must do so knowing that choice will infringe upon your civil liberties.

That was made quite clear from the start. It is pointless standing your ground on vaccination and also moaning when you knew what your choice would result in.
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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:29 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:27 pm
Thanks elwaclaret. So no negative test required for twelve months? Any ideas about the quickest way to get a paper copy anybody?
Apply for one online, usually takes about a week to arrive

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Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:31 pm

PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:25 pm
I’d say the CFS will be the most affected.
Tells its own story :lol:

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:32 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:21 pm
If vaccine passports are needed. What is the quickest way of getting a paper one if you don’t have a computer or smart phone? And how long does it last?
I think you can get a doctors note by calling up. I believe that’s what my dad has done in the past

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Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:35 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:28 pm
You obviously have one or the other to post on here
Perhaps I should have said. It’s not for me, it’s for my dad who is 86. Presumably only one app per phone/email? Or is there a way around that?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:38 pm

If he is attending with you, you can download his passport on your phone as well

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:38 pm
If he is attending with you, you can download his passport on your phone as well
That’s helpful thankyou , wasn’t sure if that was possible.

My Dad has a phone but texting is his limit so I’m sure I’ll need to sort him out.
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Post by claret2018 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:39 pm

I was wondering how long it would take the posters with a poor grasp of history to show up.

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:42 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:35 pm
Perhaps I should have said. It’s not for me, it’s for my dad who is 86. Presumably only one app per phone/email? Or is there a way around that?
Print it off for him. If you get his details into the NHS app you can download it for him

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Post by berbs78 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:43 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:29 pm
There is no historical context for segregation that is in anyway similar to Covid-19 vaccine uptake, it’s not racial or religious and therefore not something you are powerless to change - it’s a choice. If you choose to not take the vaccine, for whatever reason (barring a medical exemption, which to be clear is totally separate to how I feel) you must do so knowing that choice will infringe upon your civil liberties.

That was made quite clear from the start. It is pointless standing your ground on vaccination and also moaning when you knew what your choice would result in.
It is a choice and my right.You don't agree with that choice but that shouldn't mean my civil liberties are infringed as you mention.People have enough information to make their own decisions and should be treated equally within society.

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Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:38 pm
If he is attending with you, you can download his passport on your phone as well
Thanks Newcastleclaret93. Sorry to be a pain but could you briefly explain how to go about that?

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:44 pm

berbs78 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:43 pm
It is a choice and my right.You don't agree with that choice but that shouldn't mean my civil liberties are infringed as you mention.People have enough information to make their own decisions and should be treated equally within society.
Great, share that information on here with all the peer reviews and we'll all have a good laugh at it

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Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:45 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:42 pm
Print it off for him. If you get his details into the NHS app you can download it for him
Thanks, how do I get his details into my app. Is there provision for more than one person on the app?

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Post by Rombald » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:47 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:45 pm
Thanks, how do I get his details into my app. Is there provision for more than one person on the app?
If you log out of the app completely
Register with your dad's details and log on as him.
You will need nhs number etc
Hope it helps

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Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:52 pm

Rombald wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:47 pm
If you log out of the app completely
Register with your dad's details and log on as him.
You will need nhs number etc
Hope it helps
Thanks, I’ll have go with him. I’ll get back to you because it’s bound to be bloody hilarious!

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:39 pm
That’s helpful thankyou , wasn’t sure if that was possible.

My Dad has a phone but texting is his limit so I’m sure I’ll need to sort him out.
You will just need to log onto the account twice and download the passport to your wallet. It will be valid for three months

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Post by barba » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:07 pm

Times now reporting that it will be passport or negative LFT and eluding to it being potentially spot checks.

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