Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RMutt » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:25 pm

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RMutt not having a pot to pee in is brilliant irony!
Haha, yes. In reality I’m fabulously wealthy and have a full compliment of electronic devices. I sold sixteen replicas and made a fortune. I didn’t share any of my fortune with my father however.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by brexit » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:26 pm

The number of muppets on this message board who don't understand basic science is frightening.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:28 pm

brexit wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:26 pm
The number of muppets on this message board who don't understand basic science is frightening.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:28 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:10 pm
corrected it for you
True, like the corrected version

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
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just playing devils advocate here - you'd have someone with Ebola just freely walk about ?
Thanks I've had a busy day so appreciate the support :D
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:45 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:55 pm
I tried to find this in English but it’s from Denmark’s main news channel (DR Nyheder) showing that circa 75% of omicron cases are of double vaccinated.
**** my sides when anti Vaxers use stats like that!

Obviously due to the fact the majority of people have had the vaccine, the numbers will looks like that.

Put a pie chart up of the ratio of deaths in vaccinated compared to non vaccinated

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:48 pm

The peasants shall be punished with another lockdown at 6pm for causing embarassment to the Great Leader!

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:55 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:48 pm
The peasants shall be punished with another lockdown at 6pm for causing embarassment to the Great Leader!
Lots of people love working from home

Show a piece of paper to get in turf moor

Not really a lockdown is it?

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:56 pm

It's about time they brought something in to make the arrogant anti vaxxers squirm.

:twisted:

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by burnmark » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:13 pm

Johnson just announced will be needed for venues of over 10k people. Lateral Flow will suffice.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:16 pm

burnmark wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:13 pm
Johnson just announced will be needed for venues of over 10k people. Lateral Flow will suffice.
Are they really going to check everyone?

:shock:
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:19 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:16 pm
Are they really going to check everyone?

:shock:
If they are, then you assume it will be checked at the turnstiles, which is already an issue with tickets, so that will be further delays

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:23 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:19 pm
If they are, then you assume it will be checked at the turnstiles, which is already an issue with tickets, so that will be further delays
That was why I was asking. If our usual standards are deployed, then there will be some who will be lucky to get in by half time! :roll:
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by PadihamThickNeck » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:24 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:48 pm
Reported where? Or just your thoughts?
Lol

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:24 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:23 pm
That was why I was asking. If our usual standards are deployed, then there will be some who will be lucky to get in by half time! :roll:
Good job we are playing so well, otherwise it might put people off from attending....
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Post by ClaretAL » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:25 pm

Turnstile K will be interesting
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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:28 pm

Not needed this week, effective from next week.

I really fancy our chances against Pyongyang though, they're not in great form and I think we can get a win.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Bosscat » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:32 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:25 pm
Turnstile K will be interesting
They might start to "Flow Laterally" to Turnstile L ....

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:35 pm

I’m setting off now for Sunday’s game.

I reckon if I start queueing tonight I’ll get in for kickoff.

You may laugh……….

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pm

burnmark wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:13 pm
Johnson just announced will be needed for venues of over 10k people. Lateral Flow will suffice.
Apologies but I don’t understand.
Lateral flow tests are taken at home and no one knows who took the test, how do you prove you took one and it’s result was in the last two days.
Serious question by the way.

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:38 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pm
Apologies but I don’t understand.
Lateral flow tests are taken at home and no one knows who took the test, how do you prove you took one and it’s result was in the last two days.
Serious question by the way.
Exactly, bonkers.

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Post by burnmark » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:38 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pm
Apologies but I don’t understand.
Lateral flow tests are taken at home and no one knows who took the test, how do you prove you took one and it’s result was in the last two days.
Serious question by the way.
I’d only presume you’d need to show the ratification by uploading your negative result on the NHS website

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:35 pm
I’m setting off now for Sunday’s game.

I reckon if I start queueing tonight I’ll get in for kickoff.

You may laugh……….
Everyone will have to go earlier I feel

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm

After my above (half) joke I’ll now make my serious point.

Two jabs gets the NHS Pass. Two jabs doesn’t stop Omicron spreading nor the person getting infected (I follow a lot of the scientists worldwide and that seems highly probable). However three jabs probably makes a big difference.

So they’ll turn away hundreds, maybe thousands of fans, while not making a jot of difference because many attendees won’t be triple jabbed.

Will cause absolute uproar. Also, if people get jabbed now, it will take weeks and months to get fully jabbed and NHS Pass compliant.

Stark raving bonkers for those reasons. Even though I support sensible measures.

I hope hope hope that the lateral flow bit will avoid the problems.
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Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm

The irony will be that the coke snorters in the CFS won't be vaccinated on the grounds that they don't want to be given a dangerous drug.
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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pm
Apologies but I don’t understand.
Lateral flow tests are taken at home and no one knows who took the test, how do you prove you took one and it’s result was in the last two days.
Serious question by the way.
You don't even need to take one. Simply log on to the government website and input the number on the barcode, and then simply select the "I am negative" option. You then get a lovely email and text through confirming that you are indeed negative.

It's theatre.

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Post by Milltown1882 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:41 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm
You don't even need to take one. Simply log on to the government website and input the number on the barcode, and then simply select the "I am negative" option. You then get a lovely email and text through confirming that you are indeed negative.

It's theatre.
I went to the Edgbaston test event in the summer and loads of people were saying they did exactly that. Defeats the object.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:46 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm
You don't even need to take one. Simply log on to the government website and input the number on the barcode, and then simply select the "I am negative" option. You then get a lovely email and text through confirming that you are indeed negative.

It's theatre.
Thank you.
It’s why I asked, I was ill a few weeks ago and a LF but didn’t upload a result. Doctor got me to do a PCR test which you have to send off and it was negative.
As you say everyone can not even do a test and have a negative email.
Bonkers.

The next question is do you get in being double jabbed, or do you have to have had your booster as well.

Based on the fact BFC cannot run a **** up in a brewery there is not a chance in hell they can do this for the next night match.

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:47 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm
The irony will be that the coke snorters in the CFS won't be vaccinated on the grounds that they don't want to be given a dangerous drug.
They'll just cheat the lateral flow test... As said above its easy, and makes the whole thing a joke. Should be vaccinated only or nothing.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:48 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:16 pm
Are they really going to check everyone?

:shock:
Been to a few matches in Italy this year and yes they check everyone’s ‘green pass’ on entry (scan a QR code so it takes seconds).

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:48 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:46 pm
Thank you.
It’s why I asked, I was ill a few weeks ago and a LF but didn’t upload a result. Doctor got me to do a PCR test which you have to send off and it was negative.
As you say everyone can not even do a test and have a negative email.
Bonkers.

The next question is do you get in being double jabbed, or do you have to have had your booster as well.

Based on the fact BFC cannot run a **** up in a brewery there is not a chance in hell they can do this for the next night match.
Double jabbed at present

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:51 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:39 pm
After my above (half) joke I’ll now make my serious point.

Two jabs gets the NHS Pass. Two jabs doesn’t stop Omicron spreading nor the person getting infected (I follow a lot of the scientists worldwide and that seems highly probable). However three jabs probably makes a big difference.

So they’ll turn away hundreds, maybe thousands of fans, while not making a jot of difference because many attendees won’t be triple jabbed.

Will cause absolute uproar. Also, if people get jabbed now, it will take weeks and months to get fully jabbed and NHS Pass compliant.

Stark raving bonkers for those reasons. Even though I support sensible measures.

I hope hope hope that the lateral flow bit will avoid the problems.
This was exactly my point (admittedly with some sarcasm to wind up Lancaster) earlier in the thread

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Post by Milltown1882 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:54 pm

Surely given the nature of this variant the only responsible thing for PL clubs to do would to start with only allowing fans who are double jabbed and had their booster in to the ground until we start to get control of the variant.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:55 pm

Backofthenet wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:48 pm
Double jabbed at present
Sky saying a LF negative will be allowed.
I want a refund, that’s ridiculous!

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:57 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:51 pm
This was exactly my point (admittedly with some sarcasm to wind up Lancaster) earlier in the thread
Oh, it was sarcasm

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:58 pm

I'm double jabbed and had my booster, just logged into the NHS app so I can screen shot my vaccination passport so I can show if needed anywhere and the site has crashed 😆 🤣 😂 f....ing joke

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by bumba » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:58 pm

I'm double jabbed but regret getting the jab, something doesn't sit right with me with it all now. Last I heard nobody globally had died of this new varient(maybe has changed) yet everything is coming back in place it doesn't make sense.
They'll be a lockdown around Christmas and New year it's blatantly obvious.
I won't be showing my covid passport or a lateral flow when entering the stadium an they can't stop you entering without, we all agreed to terms.and conditions when we bought our season tickets and covid vaccines aren't in those so they can't change the rules mid season and ban you from something you've paid for, someone will have the money to drag it through the courts and it'll start a wave of claims against clubs/police/government
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:00 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:55 pm
Sky saying a LF negative will be allowed.
I want a refund, that’s ridiculous!
So someone entering that’s tested negative is ridiculous but being surrounded by others who haven’t done a test at all but could just as likely be carrying it isn’t? Makes sense.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:00 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:54 pm
Surely given the nature of this variant the only responsible thing for PL clubs to do would to start with only allowing fans who are double jabbed and had their booster in to the ground until we start to get control of the variant.
Triple jabbed, fine, but the irony is that an unvaccinated person who has (honestly) tested negative is safer for the rest of us than a double jabbed person admitted using the app.

The Pfizer / Biontech press conference today pretty much confirmed that the double jab is of limited benefit.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:03 pm

You need the booster jab, and its whether they can them out to people as fast as they can

Mine is booked for tomorrow thankfully

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:06 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:58 pm
I'm double jabbed but regret getting the jab, something doesn't sit right with me with it all now. Last I heard nobody globally had died of this new varient(maybe has changed) yet everything is coming back in place it doesn't make sense.
They'll be a lockdown around Christmas and New year it's blatantly obvious.
I won't be showing my covid passport or a lateral flow when entering the stadium an they can't stop you entering without, we all agreed to terms.and conditions when we bought our season tickets and covid vaccines aren't in those so they can't change the rules mid season and ban you from something you've paid for, someone will have the money to drag it through the courts and it'll start a wave of claims against clubs/police/government
"they can't stop you entering" it's private property so if they want to stop you going in because you have Ginger hair one week or because you have blue eyes the week after they can, all you can do is ask for a ticket refund for that particular match

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:07 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:58 pm
I'm double jabbed but regret getting the jab, something doesn't sit right with me with it all now. Last I heard nobody globally had died of this new varient(maybe has changed) yet everything is coming back in place it doesn't make sense.
They'll be a lockdown around Christmas and New year it's blatantly obvious.
I won't be showing my covid passport or a lateral flow when entering the stadium an they can't stop you entering without, we all agreed to terms.and conditions when we bought our season tickets and covid vaccines aren't in those so they can't change the rules mid season and ban you from something you've paid for, someone will have the money to drag it through the courts and it'll start a wave of claims against clubs/police/government
Magna Carta mate, just quote the Magna Carta at them

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Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:09 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:06 pm
"they can't stop you entering" it's private property so if they want to stop you going in because you have Ginger hair one week or because you have blue eyes the week after they can, all you can do is ask for a ticket refund for that particular match
Correct... Same for pubs etc
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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:09 pm

The country is completely and utterly broken. We've got people who are openly corrupt and openly laughing at us imposing rules on to us that they know fully well don't make one jot of difference, so much so they don't feel the need to follow any of it.

Trouble is, look out across the globe and things are actually far worse. Bleak times.

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Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:10 pm

Already outside waiting for Sunday’s match not taking a chance on this match fancy us big time utc

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:10 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:03 pm
You need the booster jab, and its whether they can them out to people as fast as they can

Mine is booked for tomorrow thankfully
Just fake a LF.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:00 pm
So someone entering that’s tested negative is ridiculous but being surrounded by others who haven’t done a test at all but could just as likely be carrying it isn’t? Makes sense.
No some one who faked a negative test, who is neither jabbed or has a negative test, they just lied on the website.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:13 pm

Makes sense to me and won’t put me off going. Only drab predictable football will.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:15 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:12 pm
No some one who faked a negative test, who is neither jabbed or has a negative test, they just lied on the website.
I see. Surely that actual system should change then. Here in Italy you can only get an 'approved negative test' from a pharmacy. Then that's what you get a QR code from (green pass) to scan.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:15 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:10 pm
Just fake a LF.
No mate, I mean to get the best possible protection from the virus

I'm sadly assuming that most people have had enough of restrictions, mainly because of the idiot in charge, so the safest way is to be as vaccinated as possible

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