Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Backofthenet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:08 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:45 pm
Thanks, how do I get his details into my app. Is there provision for more than one person on the app?
As rombald said.... Good luck
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by StuffyClaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:11 pm

berbs78 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:22 pm
You think that segregating people within society because of their different beliefs is the right thing to do? History suggests otherwise
Football is about as segregated as you can get....home fans vs away fans :?

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:17 pm

Seen as though omicron variant is thought to evade vaccine’s and just transmit like normal perhaps everyone should also have proof of a negative test. Or how about a yellow armband for those with vaccines who haven’t done a test. Could even shuttle those un-tested into the Jimmy Mac upper as far away as possible from everyone.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:19 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:17 pm
Seen as though omicron variant is thought to evade vaccine’s and just transmit like normal.
Fake news.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:22 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:19 pm
Fake news.
Reports out of Denmark confirm that vaccines provide very weak protection. Out of 360 infections 77% of those very fully vaccinated.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:22 pm
Reports out of Denmark confirm that vaccines provide very weak protection. Out of 360 infections 77% of those very fully vaccinated.
So that’s not what you said in your first post then is it.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by dsr » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:30 pm

None of the vaccines provide any protection at all against being infected, and they never have. They can't, because infection is acquired by breathing the virus in.

The point of vaccines is, and always was, that once you are infected your body will fight off the disease because it has been primed to do so. If the vaccine works to perfection, you will never know that you had the infection. If it works a bit less well, you will get some symptoms. If it doesn't work at all, you may die. But if someone with no symptoms gets tested randomly or (for example) as part of their job, they may very well test positive even though the vaccine has worked to perfection.

This particular virus appears to spread early in the infection cycle, while both vaccinated and unvaccinated alike have few symptoms. That's why both delta and omicron spread pretty freely even in a largely vaccinated population. But then while the vaccinated body is fighting off the infection with ease, and with likely no symptoms and no reason to suspect they had it, the unvaccinated body is still marshalllng its forces and learning how to deal with the disease. Hence they get symptoms and possible serious illness.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:31 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:17 pm
Seen as though omicron variant is thought to evade vaccine’s and just transmit like normal perhaps everyone should also have proof of a negative test. Or how about a yellow armband for those with vaccines who haven’t done a test. Could even shuttle those un-tested into the Jimmy Mac upper as far away as possible from everyone.
Yellow armband?

If you want to pretend that this is similar to Jewish yellow stars then you need a serious lesson on what the holocaust was

If you think its remotely similar to this then words fail me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMClpOb49b0

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:32 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 pm
So that’s not what you said in your first post then is it.
Plus I can find no verification of the figures you quote.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:36 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:31 pm
Yellow armband?

If you want to pretend that this is similar to Jewish yellow stars then you need a serious lesson on what the holocaust was

If you think its remotely similar to this then words fail me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMClpOb49b0
How else can we know who is likely to have the virus and who isn’t? We now know all vaccinated can transmit the virus (be it Delta or Omicron, with the latter looking more likely to further evade). Seen as unvaccinated are now being categorised and blocked from attending I don’t see why we can’t go just that one step further.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:39 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:32 pm
Plus I can find no verification of the figures you quote.
I follow Prof. Stebbing from Imperial College London who is a world renowned oncologist.

He quotes ‘Danish data confirm that vaccines provide very weak protection, if any, against infection’.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:39 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:36 pm
How else can we know who is likely to have the virus and who isn’t? We now know all vaccinated can transmit the virus (be it Delta or Omicron, with the latter looking more likely to further evade). Seen as unvaccinated are now being categorised and blocked from attending I don’t see why we can’t go just that one step further.
This has been explained numerous times. If you still don’t get it it’s not really worth anyone’s effort to go through it again.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:39 pm
I follow Prof. Stebbing from Imperial College London who is a world renowned oncologist.

He quotes ‘Danish data confirm that vaccines provide very weak protection, if any, against infection’.
Those aren’t figures.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:36 pm
How else can we know who is likely to have the virus and who isn’t? We now know all vaccinated can transmit the virus (be it Delta or Omicron, with the latter looking more likely to further evade). Seen as unvaccinated are now being categorised and blocked from attending I don’t see why we can’t go just that one step further.
Mental

Massively disrespectful as well

But hey ho, this is the UK in 2021

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:46 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:39 pm
I follow Prof. Stebbing from Imperial College London who is a world renowned oncologist.

He quotes ‘Danish data confirm that vaccines provide very weak protection, if any, against infection’.
And just try Googling that professor and see his recent history, ‘dishonest’ and ‘reckless’ are words you see bandied around.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm
Mental

Massively disrespectful as well

But hey ho, this is the UK in 2021
Yes it’s massively disrespectful for those who have done the right thing and got vaccinated to then be sat next to those who could have omicron.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:48 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:46 pm
Yes it’s massively disrespectful for those who have done the right thing and got vaccinated to then be sat next to those who could have omicron.
No, its massively disrespectful to the memory of millions who died and it being compared because you can't go to a Burnley match

I'm sure it makes sense in your mind but you are going to have people pointing out that it really, really doesn't

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by DCWat » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:54 pm

I just to tried to view my covid pass on the NHS covid application. It came up after the second attempt (first time it said servie unavailable).

It expires in one months time. Not sure why a paper copy can be used as proof indefinitely but the app needs to be reloaded every month.

It’s looking like this is going to be another difficult winter!

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:54 pm

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ersecution

Amount of deaths estimated from the holocaust - 20 million estimated

Amount of Burnley matches RV Claret has missed due to non-vaccination status so far - 0

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:55 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm
Those aren’t figures.
I tried to find this in English but it’s from Denmark’s main news channel (DR Nyheder) showing that circa 75% of omicron cases are of double vaccinated.
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This basically shows that circa 75% of omicron infected cases are double vaccinated. <br /><br />I tried to find this in English but it’s taking from Denmark’s main news channel.
This basically shows that circa 75% of omicron infected cases are double vaccinated.

I tried to find this in English but it’s taking from Denmark’s main news channel.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by DCWat » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:57 pm

Which manager was it that compared their teams display to the Holocaust, the other week?

Quite why the Holocaust can ever be used as some sort of comparator, I have no idea.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:57 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:48 pm
No, its massively disrespectful to the memory of millions who died and it being compared because you can't go to a Burnley match

I'm sure it makes sense in your mind but you are going to have people pointing out that it really, really doesn't
Why you talking about the holocaust? Literally has nothing to do with it. Odd.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:01 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:57 pm
Why you talking about the holocaust? Literally has nothing to do with it. Odd.
I didn't bring up yellow armbands mate

You did

Which, btw, is more than "odd"

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:01 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:57 pm
Which manager was it that compared their teams display to the Holocaust, the other week?

Quite why the Holocaust can ever be used as some sort of comparator, I have no idea.
Wasn't it Joey Barton??
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:04 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:17 pm
Seen as though omicron variant is thought to evade vaccine’s and just transmit like normal perhaps everyone should also have proof of a negative test. Or how about a yellow armband for those with vaccines who haven’t done a test. Could even shuttle those un-tested into the Jimmy Mac upper as far away as possible from everyone.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:04 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:57 pm
Which manager was it that compared their teams display to the Holocaust, the other week?

Quite why the Holocaust can ever be used as some sort of comparator, I have no idea.
Barton, and he's proper bonkers at times (check out Bristol Rovers current disciplinary record, its a proper car crash)

He's the one who bought up yellow armbands mate, not me
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by bpgburn » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:06 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:54 pm
I just to tried to view my covid pass on the NHS covid application. It came up after the second attempt (first time it said servie unavailable).

It expires in one months time. Not sure why a paper copy can be used as proof indefinitely but the app needs to be reloaded every month.

It’s looking like this is going to be another difficult winter!
This worried me as I was in Austria and noticed it was about to expire when I showed it at check in, I asked what will happen on my return, they explained the expiry date relates to the QR code at the time of logging on, it renews automatically as it gets closer. It never expires and continues to update and record your 1st and 2nd vacs, booster(s) and any test result(s). That proved to be correct thankfully.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:09 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:01 pm
I didn't bring up yellow armbands mate

You did

Which, btw, is more than "odd"
Got nothing to do with the holocaust. Just trying to find solutions to slow the spread of omicron. It’s being shown that those double jabbed aren’t as protected and it’s only a third jan that is (see Pfizer’s release today). Plus it appears omicron, admittedly from low data so far, transmits just as normal through vaccines as it would anyone. Maybe we close footy for now for those with triple shots only?

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:11 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:09 pm
Got nothing to do with the holocaust. Just trying to find solutions to slow the spread of omicron. It’s being shown that those double jabbed aren’t as protected and it’s only a third jan that is (see Pfizer’s release today). Plus it appears omicron, admittedly from low data so far, that it transmits just as normal through vaccines as it would anyone. Maybe we close footy for now for those with triple shots only?
Course it hasn't, you just happened to pick yellow armbands completely at random
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Post by Stayingup » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:12 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:24 pm
They’ll need a few hundred extra staff at TM to check passports - ain’t going to happen
In fact it will take ages to get people into ther ground. Its ridculous. Everything today is a hyped up drama.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by bpgburn » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:17 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:11 pm
Course it hasn't, you just happened to pick yellow armbands completely at random
What has a yellow armband got to do with the Holocaust? Wasn't it a yellow star of David on a dark armband or sewn on to fabric?

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:18 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:11 pm
Course it hasn't, you just happened to pick yellow armbands completely at random
How about a sticker or badge instead ‘I’ve been tested’ it would helped ease peoples concerns

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:21 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:17 pm
What has a yellow armband got to do with the Holocaust? Wasn't it a yellow star of David on a dark armband or sewn on to fabric?
Yes but its the colour and his suggestion that it should be used to differentiate between the vaccination and unvaccinated

Somebody else came close to making the comparison on the 1st page

Suffice to say that linking the holocaust to the very mild stuff that the anti-vaccinated actually get is all over social media, along with various bonkers theories on the vaccine.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:18 pm
How about a sticker or badge instead ‘I’ve been tested’ it would helped ease peoples concerns
Or a completely private app on your phone maybe?

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:22 pm

bpgburn wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:17 pm
What has a yellow armband got to do with the Holocaust? Wasn't it a yellow star of David on a dark armband or sewn on to fabric?
Its just a little bit too close to the Holocaust Yellow star isn't it, especially if its being used as a means of segregation/identification...

We don't need armbands, or stickers etc, we have apps that cover all that.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:42 pm

berbs78 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:22 pm
You think that segregating people within society because of their different beliefs is the right thing to do? History suggests otherwise
It happens in most schools everyday, the stupid kids who believe what they hear on YouTube are in the bottom class and the more intelligent children are in the top set.
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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by what_no_pies » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:42 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:21 pm
If vaccine passports are needed. What is the quickest way of getting a paper one if you don’t have a computer or smart phone? And how long does it last?
RMutt not having a pot to pee in is brilliant irony!

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Post by timshorts » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:43 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:29 pm
There is no historical context for segregation that is in anyway similar to Covid-19 vaccine uptake, it’s not racial or religious and therefore not something you are powerless to change - it’s a choice. If you choose to not take the vaccine, for whatever reason (barring a met dical exemption, which to be clear is totally separate to how I feel) you must do so knowing that choice will infringe upon your civil liberties.

That was made quite clear from the start. It is pointless standing your ground on vaccination and also moaning when you knew what your choice would result in.
How about leper colonies?

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Post by Murger » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:52 pm

Fairly shocking that people don't see a problem with members of society being excluded from life because of a medical decision.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:01 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:52 pm
Fairly shocking that people don't see a problem with members of society being excluded from life because of a medical decision.
You are excluded from a football stadium, not from life

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:03 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:52 pm
Fairly shocking that people don't see a problem with members of society being excluded from life because of a medical decision.
just playing devils advocate here - you'd have someone with Ebola just freely walk about ?

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:04 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:52 pm
Fairly shocking that people don't see a problem with members of society being excluded from life because of a medical decision.
What’s fairly shocking is that people are still pushing the notion that anyone will have to be vaccinated to go on a football match when it’s been stated several (million) times that a negative LFT will do.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pm

Boris speaks at 6pm.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:10 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pm
Boris lies at 6pm.
corrected it for you
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Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:11 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pm
Boris speaks at 6pm.
Ideal time if there’s any major news bulletins at 6pm and you want the headlines changing!

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Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:12 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:10 pm
corrected it for you
Just at 6pm? If only!

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:15 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:52 pm
Fairly shocking that people don't see a problem with members of society being excluded from life because of a medical decision.
Just do as you are told. Don’t question anything. Otherwise you will have the fruitcake LancasterClaret to report to!!

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Post by martin_p » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:17 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:15 pm
Just do as you are told. Don’t question anything. Otherwise you will have the fruitcake LancasterClaret to report to!!
I don’t think he’s making the rules to be fair, it’s the government that likely the majority of those with a problem voted for.

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Bosscat » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:20 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pm
Boris speaks at 6pm.
Is he sending out party invites 🤔

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Re: Vaccine passports at Premierleague grounds from this weekend

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:23 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:15 pm
Just do as you are told. Don’t question anything. Otherwise you will have the fruitcake LancasterClaret to report to!!
Fruitcake?

*checks posts by RVclaret on this thread*

*shakes head*

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