Plan B and going to the Turf

[Paul Waine]

If they try and do it at the turnstile it will be total chaos.

Chelsea have been checking vaccine passes all season. A cordon of stewards (not youngsters) checking before allowed through to turnstiles. It was very easy.

A little more details re experience at Stamford Bridge: two cordons of stewards (all experienced, no youngsters) one checked you had a match day ticket the second checked your covid-19 pass. The cordons were set up 20 or 30 meters away from the turnstiles.

I'm sure this can be organised at Turf Moor. Of course, the area around the ground is not the same as at Stamford Bridge.

UTC

[barba]

CLUB ANNOUNCEMENT

Following Government announcement new protocols in place for supporters attending Turf Moor

Following the announcement from the Government on Wednesday 8th December regarding Plan B, Burnley Football Club can confirm the new protocols in place for supporters attending matches at Turf Moor.

The new protocols will come into effect for Burnley Football Club on Wednesday 15th December when we play host to Watford at Turf Moor in the Premier League.

All those, aged 18 and over, in attendance for the game against Watford, and all fixtures, both home and away, moving forwards after this date, will need to pre-register their Covid-19 status. Supporters can access an online form to declare this by clicking here - go.burnleyfc.com/COVIDPass

Supporters will need to supply one of the following to gain stadium access…

NHS Covid-19 passport which you can download on the NHS app
A negative lateral flow test
Spectators must not bring paper versions of vaccination cards – Digital passes are now the required form of acceptable Covid-19 pass.

Supporters should continue to expect to be subject to spot-checks on the perimeter and/or turnstiles of the stadium.

Even though the new rules are not in effect for our game against West Ham United on Sunday 12th December, we ask all fans to continue to follow Government guidance and do not attend if you have any symptoms of COVID-19.

We will update supporters with further information as soon as we have it.

[wilks_bfc]

Question Number 3
Clarets Number
Number must be between 111111 - 999999

I suppose that one way to reduce the number of those attending
Exclude those that begin with a 10

[martin_p]

I suppose that one way to reduce the number of those attending
Exclude those that begin with a 10

Yep, just tried to fill in the form and it rejected my clarets number.

[Devils_Advocate]

Im in Burnley over Xmas so if any anti-vax, covid denier has a ticket not being used for the Everton game please let me know. Preferably not in the CFS, Bob Lord, lower tiers, behind the goals or near the sides and backs of the stands. Apart from that Im not too fussed on the seat location

[CrosspoolClarets]

Yep, just tried to fill in the form and it rejected my clarets number.

Me too.

Amateur hour.

[wilks_bfc]

Yep, just tried to fill in the form and it rejected my clarets number.

Looks like they have "realised" their error and changed to 100000

[martin_p]

Looks like they have "realised" their error and changed to 100000

Yes, working now.

[wilks_bfc]

What are we supposed to do with the form once filled in?

It's not letting me save a completed copy of it, I haven't received an email and they don't want printed bits of paper.

[wilks_bfc]

Nevermind, after a bit of faffing around I've managed to save as PDF.

I consider myself quite tech-savvy and found this hard work, so God knows how some are going to manage

[Spijed]

Spectators must not bring paper versions of vaccination cards – Digital passes are now the required form of acceptable Covid-19 pass.

Does that mean anyone without a mobile phone can't gain entry?

[dsr]

So it's official - if you don't have an internet-phone, you can't come? They might be getting some season ticket refund requests on that one.

[claretonthecoast1882]

What are we supposed to do with the form once filled in?

It's not letting me save a completed copy of it, I haven't received an email and they don't want printed bits of paper.

I just submitted it, tried the save as pdf but it just gave me the option of printing 6 pages

[wilks_bfc]

I just submitted it, tried the save as pdf but it just gave me the option of printing 6 pages

That's the issue I had (well 2 pages of the completed form and a 3rd with a single claret line on it)

I was using an iPhone, so not sure if same on others, but if you click the "download" icon (square with arrow), you get an options for MS Forms
You can select that, choose PDF and save into files

[Spijed]

So it's official - if you don't have an internet-phone, you can't come? They might be getting some season ticket refund requests on that one.

Surely the club will have to allow paper copies of the vaccine passport otherwise, as you say, there will be many requests for refunds.

[ClaretAL]

Why do you have to save a copy or print out the form? I thought you just answered the questions and press submit. Then ensure you turn up with your covid pass on the NHS app?

[RMutt]

Does that mean anyone without a mobile phone can't gain entry?

I suspect they mean the little cards they give you when you have the jab. I think they have said before that they will not suffice.

[claretonthecoast1882]

That's the issue I had (well 2 pages of the completed form and a 3rd with a single claret line on it)

I was using an iPhone, so not sure if same on others, but if you click the "download" icon (square with arrow), you get an options for MS Forms
You can select that, choose PDF and save into files

I have just submitted it. That will be enough and already have the passport. Probably get asked for the pdf at the turnstile next week

[lakedistrictclaret]

I suspect they mean the little cards they give you when you have the jab. I think they have said before that they will not suffice.

That's my reading of it.

I've got a paper Covid passport. I'll be using that.

Although the club statement is, unsurprisingly, ambiguous.

[Backofthenet]

Does that mean anyone without a mobile phone can't gain entry?

I've entered 6 countries recently with paper copies, in fact they prefer paper copies at the borders.
If paper can be used to leave, and enter countries, I doubt turf moor could turn you away.

[CrosspoolClarets]

My Dad has one of those old Nokias that isn’t a smartphone. Can’t be alone in that.

I read the website as meaning it has to be electronic, but we’ll see.

[Darthlaw]

Why do you have to save a copy or print out the form? I thought you just answered the questions and press submit. Then ensure you turn up with your covid pass on the NHS app?

Just submit it, no need to retain a copy

[martin_p]

That's my reading of it.

I've got a paper Covid passport. I'll be using that.

Although the club statement is, unsurprisingly, ambiguous.

Do the paper ones still have a QR code?

[summitclaret]

My Dad has one of those old Nokias that isn’t a smartphone. Can’t be alone in that.

I read the website as meaning it has to be electronic, but we’ll see.

It very clearly excludes paper copies of the NHS pass without giving a reason. Don't understand why because, as someone has said above, these are okay in other scenarios.

It will be bad enough getting in for ko, but not allowing paper copies of the NHS pass will make it worse.

[Backofthenet]

Do the paper ones still have a QR code?

Yes

[Lowbankclaret]

Having read the club announcement.
Surely the reason for submitting your result and clarets number will be to authorise your ticket.

My guess was it will then authorise your ticket and unauthorised tickets will not allow you in the turnstile when scanned.

[martin_p]

Yes

I suspect this is what is meant by ‘digital pass’, the ability to scan a QR code, although the awful wording is bound to cause confusion. The article also doesn’t tell you how to prove a negative lateral flow test.

[Spijed]

Having read the club announcement.
Surely the reason for submitting your result and clarets number will be to authorise your ticket.

My guess was it will then authorise your ticket and unauthorised tickets will not allow you in the turnstile when scanned.

But if you've already got a vaccine passport why would you need to authorise your ticket?

[quoonbeatz]

It very clearly excludes paper copies of the NHS pass without giving a reason. Don't understand why because, as someone has said above, these are okay in other scenarios.

It will be bad enough getting in for ko, but not allowing paper copies of the NHS pass will make it worse.

It isn't excluding paper copies, it's just another awfully written article.

You can use a digital pass on your phone or the printed version of the digital pass. You cannot use your vaccine card.

[martin_p]

Having read the club announcement.
Surely the reason for submitting your result and clarets number will be to authorise your ticket.

My guess was it will then authorise your ticket and unauthorised tickets will not allow you in the turnstile when scanned.

The pre-registration is just about you agreeing not to enter the ground with covid symptoms and understanding the new legal requirement re covid passes. They could link it to your ticket I guess, which begs the question what if you don’t ‘pre-register’?

[jrgbfc]

What a pain in the neck just to go to a game of footy. Looks like our crowds are going to get even smaller.

[claretonthecoast1882]

What a pain in the neck just to go to a game of footy. Looks like our crowds are going to get even smaller.

Something that will take a few seconds to show on your phone ?

[quoonbeatz]

Reckon for the vast majority of people it will take about 1 whole minute to sort out. For most of the rest, maybe 5 mins. Obvs there will be some exceptions but it's hardly an inconvenience.

[Backofthenet]

I suspect this is what is meant by ‘digital pass’, the ability to scan a QR code, although the awful wording is bound to cause confusion. The article also doesn’t tell you how to prove a negative lateral flow test.

That will be the fun bit

[Lowbankclaret]

But if you've already got a vaccine passport why would you need to authorise your ticket?

It does not say you will be checked on match day except for spot checks.
My point is you need to pre register or your not getting in. Because that’s the new rules.

[NottsClaret]

Already got one on my phone so no hassle, even if I don't really agree with the implementation. I'm guessing the idea is just to raise awareness around Covid. It's so easy to workaround if you hadn't had a vaccine as to be pointless.

[Dy1geo]

Walking past the spot checkers for the non vaxxed etc will be like the old days when you walked through customs at the airport with your more than allowed duty free

[RMutt]

Reckon for the vast majority of people it will take about 1 whole minute to sort out. For most of the rest, maybe 5 mins. Obvs there will be some exceptions but it's hardly an inconvenience.

Nice bit of optimism there. I bet the Bob Lord will be empty.

[Smidge]

Your covid pass only lasts a month from the date you download it
Out of interest how are the club going to contact season ticket holders and fans generally that they need to register their covid status before they can attend next Wednesday match not everyone comes on here

[Boss Hogg]

No paper vaccination CARDS. Paper vaccination pass OK. That’s how I interpret that message. Digital’s preferable but downloading last minute could be an issue as the signal around Turf Moor is poor. As mentioned above you need a suitable phone too. I think a paper pass will have a bar code whereas the vaccination cards could be forged.

[wilks_bfc]

That is exactly how I’ve interpreted it.
A QR code on a piece of paper is still a digital pass

[Tribesmen]

I take it overseas fans would just have to show their QR codes on their phones also ?

[martin_p]

I take it overseas fans would just have to show their QR codes on their phones also ?

Overseas fans would probably have to show a negative test.

[joey13]

I don't class them as abroad, and iam sure you weren't thinking of them when you posted the question, but never mind.

Mind reader are you , I live in Jersey so yes I was thinking about them ,but never mind you obviously know ,unfortunately not the question that was asked

[Backofthenet]

Mind reader are you , I live in Jersey so yes I was thinking about them ,but never mind you obviously know ,unfortunately not the question that was asked

Out of interest do you class yourself as living abroad? And do you have a British passport or elsewhere
Not being arsey, just interested

[quoonbeatz]

Nice bit of optimism there. I bet the Bob Lord will be empty.

It'll be the most vaccinated stand we've got. Doubt they'll even bother spot checking it

[joey13]

Out of interest do you class yourself as living abroad? And do you have a British passport or elsewhere
Not being arsey, just interested

Well you need a boat or plane to get here , Jersey has its own government and I have a Jersey passport so yes I class myself as living abroad

[martin_p]

Government confirm there’ll be no penalty for faking a negative LFT, which makes the whole thing a bit pointless really.

[jrgbfc]

Why the need to add an extra layer of complications? Can they not just scan covid passes at the turnstiles?

[Down_Rover]

The instructions ask you to pre-register your COVID status before the match. I assume this expects you to download a pass before each game