Plan B and going to the Turf

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:02 am

In fact there’s an updated one from yesterday which at least confirms paper Covid passes are acceptable and clarifies what you need to prove a negative test. The new one just repeats the original confusing message.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/co ... n-b-update

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:06 am

So after clarifying it they've now put out a statement that will confuse people again

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:09 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:06 am
So after clarifying it they've now put out a statement that will confuse people again

You have to say, since a lot of the old media team went things have gone seriously down hill. It may not have been perfect but compared to what we have now……. Some very basic proof reading of what is being published would be a start.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:10 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:06 am
So after clarifying it they've now put out a statement that will confuse people again

The thing is, I’m not surprised

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:13 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:09 am
You have to say, since a lot of the old media team went things have gone seriously down hill. It may not have been perfect but compared to what we have now……. Some very basic proof reading of what is being published would be a start.

And think of the stick they used to get. Bentley used to have to put up with people whinging at him over the starting 11 once the team was announced, it was even more moronic on the last day of transfer windows

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:14 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:13 am
And think of the stick they used to get. Bentley used to have to put up with people whinging at him over the starting 11 once the team was announced, it was even more moronic on the last day of transfer windows

I’m not a person that tends to knock any aspect of the club but the website is absolutely shocking at the moment.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:20 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:14 am
I’m not a person that tends to knock any aspect of the club but the website is absolutely shocking at the moment.

Apart from buying away tickets I hardly ever use it, normally by the time anything is on there it is widely known.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:27 am

Peter Loo wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:57 am
As usual more questions then answers.

That's how it should work.

Peter Loo · Post by **Peter Loo** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:15 pm

duncandisorderly wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:27 am
That's how it should work.

Not when people who are travelling long distances to a game and want certainty of being able to get in its not.

Same old problem in this Country .. can’t get the management.

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:43 pm

I like Plan B and was rather hoping this would be about them playing there

barba · Post by **barba** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:07 pm

TICKETS

COVID-19 UPDATE: MORE INFORMATION
December 10, 2021

News

A further update regarding new protocols that the club is putting in place, in line with Government restrictions

Following our communication published on Thursday 9th December regarding the Government’s new Plan B protocols, we have received several questions from supporters.

We are now in a position to answer a number of questions posed for the club, and we will further update supporters once we have more answers to your questions.

We appreciate your patience and understanding, with our priority being to make sure that all spectators can watch the club's teams play in a safe and secure environment, whilst adhering to the procedures put in place by the Government.

Please note: the rules are subject to change if we receive further communication from the Government/Premier League.

We politely ask all of our supporters to complete the pre-registration of your COVID-19 pass.

Full details can be found here.

FAQ's:

Q. What are the allowances, if any, for elderly fans who don’t have smartphones?

A. The COVID-19 pass is not just on smart phones; anyone can apply for a paper version of the COVID-19 pass by post. For more information on this, click here: https://go.burnleyfc.com/COVIDPassLetter or spectators can apply by phoning 119.

The COVID-19 pass can also be downloaded as a PDF, or stored within NHS App and added to your Apple / Google Wallet.

We advise anyone attending the game to either screenshot or download the pass to their phone to avoid any connectivity issues with the app.

Q. Will fans have to register for each game, or will one registration cover all matches?

A. We are awaiting further guidance.

We are also awaiting confirmation on the amount of time that a lateral flow test will need to be administered before a match.

Supporters will not be able to bring the testing stick with them. They must have registered their LFT result with the NHS and received and email or text message. The NHS website for registering a test can be found here: https://go.burnleyfc.com/LFTest

Q. Will supporters have to show season tickets as well as COVID-19 passes? If so, how will this be managed effectively at the gates, so everyone gets into the ground on time?

A. Season tickets or matchday tickets may be asked for along with proof of COVID-19 status.

The club haS an operational procedure to help deal with waiting times. However, to help with this please arrive early and make sure you have your COVID-19 pass or proof of negative lateral flow ready to show if asked.

Q. Are we issuing refunds to those season ticket holders who refuse to comply?

No, there will be no refunds currently as there is the option for supporters to provide a negative lateral flow test result.

Q. Why aren’t paper passes a valid form of proof?

A. You can receive a paper version of the COVID-19 pass through the post. For more information on this, please click here: https://go.burnleyfc.com/COVIDPassLetter or dial 119 to request one.

Q. What about supporters who are visiting Turf Moor from countries outside of the UK who don’t have the NHS app – do they do lateral flow?

A. They can lateral flow before coming to the match and register this with the NHS who will send them an email or text message with the result, or they can show their countries version of the NHS COVID-19 pass, along with photo ID.

*Please note: the guidance we have been provided is from the Government and the Premier League.

Backofthenet · Post by **Backofthenet** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:45 pm

Not as difficult as some predicted

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:49 pm

Complete waste of everyone’s time.
Boris gone into hiding after presiding of this Sh1t show.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:17 pm

All this nonsense for a new variant that has killed precisely... nobody!

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:26 pm

Genuine question....what about staff members that aren't vaccinated. Will they be required to take a LFT before their shift and prove a negative result??

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:40 pm

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:26 pm
Genuine question....what about staff members that aren't vaccinated. Will they be required to take a LFT before their shift and prove a negative result??

Do you mean staff members at BFC or staff members where you work? I'm sure all employers will know how they are managing covid-19 issues.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:42 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:40 pm
Do you mean staff members at BFC or staff members where you work? I'm sure all employers will know how they are managing covid-19 issues.

Both really, I know how we are handling it but a lot of the matchday staff at BFC are quite young and may not yet have had their second jab??

Ralphandwillie · Post by **Ralphandwillie** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:14 am

What about players who have not been vaccinated?

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:33 am

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:42 pm
Both really, I know how we are handling it but a lot of the matchday staff at BFC are quite young and may not yet have had their second jab??

I'm required to take a lft before I go into the office, no real hardship, they are free and it takes 5 minutes tops. I'm sure they'll be well briefed

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:47 am

Ralphandwillie wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:14 am
What about players who have not been vaccinated?

Anyone who has not had a vaccine that is
not medically exempt, or can prove that they have had a negative test, maybe or maybe not:-

Does not care about society
Be too easily influenced
Be educationally challenged
Be irrationally scared of needles
Be belligerent.

But for sure they should not be allowed on a football ground (and in particular the Londside upper bogs) to potentially make others ill or worse.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:50 am

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:47 am
Anyone who has not had a vaccine that is
not medically exempt, or can prove that they have had a negative test, maybe or maybe not:-

Does not care about society
Be too easily influenced
Be educationally challenged
Be irrationally scared of needles
Be belligerent.

But for sure they should not be allowed on a football ground (and in particular the Londside upper bogs) to potentially make others ill or worse.

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summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:54 am

It's Government policy backed I think by Labour.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:27 am

A question dodged -

Q. Why aren’t paper passes a valid form of proof?

A. You can receive a paper version of the COVID-19 pass through the post. For more information on this, please click here: https://go.burnleyfc.com/COVIDPassLetter or dial 119 to request one.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:33 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:27 am
A question dodged -

Q. Why aren’t paper passes a valid form of proof?

A. You can receive a paper version of the COVID-19 pass through the post. For more information on this, please click here: https://go.burnleyfc.com/COVIDPassLetter or dial 119 to request one.

Yes need to be more definitive and less ambiguous but I'm sure they are saying a paper version will be allowed which if course it should be. Why they can say it explicitly is anyone's guess.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:55 am

It's the credit card size vaccine cards which are given out when you have your injection that aren't allowed.

The paper certificate which you can order online via the NHS Website that states you've had at least two jabs IS allowed.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:05 am

Ralphandwillie wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:14 am
What about players who have not been vaccinated?

Interesting question actually. Do the new 'rules' about entering a large event only apply to spectators?

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:13 am

NottsClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:05 am
Interesting question actually. Do the new 'rules' about entering a large event only apply to spectators?

It rightly only applies to spectators imo. As the vast majority of us don’t care if a small minority are unwilling to take a vaccine or a lateral flow test but would care if the quality of football was impacted.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:14 am

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:50 am
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Imagine someone suggesting you might be belligerent for refusing a vaccine and thinking it’s smart to resort to shouting Hitler at them

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:51 am

Ralphandwillie wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:14 am
What about players who have not been vaccinated?

They will need to provide a negative test as per anyone else who isn’t vaccinated. I’m sure they will do this on a daily basis anyway.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:03 pm

NottsClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:05 am
Interesting question actually. Do the new 'rules' about entering a large event only apply to spectators?

Every player will have been tested as part of the PL rules around COVID anyway. So they are following the rules.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:04 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:03 pm
Every player will have been tested as part of the PL rules around COVID anyway. So they are following the rules.

Fair point, not thought of that.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:09 pm

People are just being asked to abide by the rules. Even a mandatory jab is hardly akin to living under Hitler’s regime and to suggest so or ‘joke’ about it is disrespectful to anyone who did. Nobody will be shot or sent to a camp for not having one. It just means there will be some restrictions. Just show a pass or do a test it’s not difficult. Let’s keep football open for fans.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:16 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:03 pm
Every player will have been tested as part of the PL rules around COVID anyway. So they are following the rules.

If this is the case then why are multiple matches being postponed due to Covid outbreaks?? Surely said tests would pick this up.....??

Backofthenet · Post by **Backofthenet** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:25 pm

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:16 pm
If this is the case then why are multiple matches being postponed due to Covid outbreaks?? Surely said tests would pick this up.....??

They have picked it up, hence the positive tests

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:17 pm

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:14 am
Imagine someone suggesting you might be belligerent for refusing a vaccine and thinking it’s smart to resort to shouting Hitler at them

Imagine thinking it's perfectly normal to tell someone they can't go somewhere if they choose not to have a medical procedure.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:20 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:17 pm
Imagine thinking it's perfectly normal to tell someone they can't go somewhere if they choose not to have a medical procedure.

Do you understand anyone who doesn’t want the vaccine can take a lateral flow test and go on the match?

Hitler was a genocidal dictator, not someone who caused slight inconvenience to idiots

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:20 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:17 pm
Imagine thinking it's perfectly normal to tell someone they can't go somewhere if they choose not to have a medical procedure.

However, it's not a medical procedure?? It's a vaccine....vaccines have been proven over the years to eradicate conditions such as smallpox.....do you think that the vaccine for that was tested over a period of time until people were comfortable with it...

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:45 pm

Considering the fact that they haven't managed to sign the Longside entrances as 'upper tier' or 'lower tier' how on earth are they going to cope with people now having to show a whole range of variations on the Covid passport?

We queue every week behind people clutching paper tickets who appear to have no idea which tier they are heading into. And it's not their fault.

On balance, I probably won't bother with the Watford Game. I predict utter chaos.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:13 pm

Marty Dobson wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:15 pm
From the PL Website.

Can I show evidence that I have been vaccinated abroad?
EU Digital COVID Certificates and US State certificates showing a US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved vaccination should count as sufficient COVID status certification. In other cases, we recommend that you obtain an NHS Pass after recording a negative lateral flow test result in the previous 48 hours.

I am an international visitor and cannot access the NHS app. How do I demonstrate a negative lateral flow test?
There are a number of different ways of demonstrating negative lateral flow tests. Test centres can provide documentation for those not using the NHS app.

Yes and you have got to pay for them

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:14 pm

Backofthenet wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:07 am
No such thing as a Jersey passport, it's a British passport, according to the Jersey goverment

It’s Jersey passport stop being a prick

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:12 pm

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:20 pm
However, it's not a medical procedure?? It's a vaccine....vaccines have been proven over the years to eradicate conditions such as smallpox.....do you think that the vaccine for that was tested over a period of time until people were comfortable with it...

A vaccine is a medical procedure you moron.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:14 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:12 pm
A vaccine is a medical procedure you moron.

This moron apolgises....seems I am a moron....it seems it is classed as a minor medical procedure....sorry for being a moron

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:17 pm

It must be all that nitrogen.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:18 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:17 pm
It must be all that nitrogen.

Aye, plays havoc with the brain cells lol!!!

Backofthenet · Post by **Backofthenet** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:26 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:14 pm
It’s Jersey passport stop being a prick

Have a read of this before being abusive

https://www.gov.je/Travel/Passports/Get ... ports.aspx

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:55 pm

I'm not having posters calling others morons on this board and as such this thread is now closed.