Man Utd v the Clarets - match thread

[ksrclaret]

Why submit an application when you have no grounds for it?
We do not meet the required number out

You'll have to ask the likes of Everton and Newcastle.

[fidelcastro]

Just one attacking player on the bench tonight.... still, I guess we'll be mostly defending.

[steve_f]

The idiot on Amazon just said Cornet on the bench, with a caption showing that he is out

[jedi_master]

Good try , Pope x 2

Made the list look better

Apologies.

[SalisburyClaret]

No excuse for not getting this called off - every other team in the PL would be

[burnleymik]

What is our formation here?

[Newcastleclaret93]

And there are clearly different standards being applied.

I don’t think the premier league are applying a different set of rules to us as they do with everyone else? Otherwise that would be corrupt and our club would have a case to sue the league?

[fidelcastro]

We only ever had an outside chance, that team hasn't a snowball in hells.
If we get something from this game it will be the best points we've ever earned in the Prem.

Really sad considering the missing are hardly likely to be injured, with no game in the last 18 days, I've moaned about other clubs players not being vaccinated, so it would be wrong not to moan about our own. When fans can't get into the ground without a covid passport, even if they've paid for a season ticket it's time all players manned up and did their bit.

How do you know our players haven't?

You can still test positive with three vaccinations.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You'll have to ask the likes of Everton and Newcastle.

Yep I’m sure they faked covid results (even though it’s done by an external company) to get games called off.

[Rombald]

I don’t think the premier league are applying a different set of rules to us as they do with everyone else? Otherwise that would be corrupt and our club would have a case to sue the league?

Don't be so naive

[Norman]

We only ever had an outside chance, that team hasn't a snowball in hells.
If we get something from this game it will be the best points we've ever earned in the Prem.

Really sad considering the missing are hardly likely to be injured, with no game in the last 18 days, I've moaned about other clubs players not being vaccinated, so it would be wrong not to moan about our own. When fans can't get into the ground without a covid passport, even if they've paid for a season ticket it's time all players manned up and did their bit.

The starting lineup has our first team back 4, Hennessey who has never let us down and JBG, Cork, Westwood and McNeil, along with Wood upfront - it's missing Pope and Cornet, but it's not like we're playing the under 23s. The bench is naked, but the first 11 is hardly rubbish.

[boatshed bill]

How do you know our players haven't?

You can still test positive with three vaccinations.

Correct

[ksrclaret]

Yep I’m sure they faked covid results (even though it’s done by an external company) to get games called off.

They made up injuries, I think you'll find, not Covid cases.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don't be so naive

Ok so you are seriously suggesting that the premier league is corrupt with the aim of giving Burnley grief?

[tiger76]

No excuse for not getting this called off - every other team in the PL would be

Funny I thought they already were.

[warksclaret]

Without doubt a number of PL clubs have requested postponements and been successful, with a team no where near as badly affected as ours tonight

[jedi_master]

Ok so you are seriously suggesting that the premier league is corrupt with the aim of giving Burnley grief?

I don’t think the PL are at fault here.

I absolutely do believe that Benitez and Howe have done what was in their best interests in terms of notifying the league of injuries.

As, on that teamsheets evidence, we absolutely should have done.

[Rombald]

Ok so you are seriously suggesting that the premier league is corrupt with the aim of giving Burnley grief?

I'm suggesting that other clubs may have played the injuries and covid cases better than we have.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t think the PL are at fault here.

I absolutely do believe that Benitez and Howe have done what was in their best interests in terms of notifying the league of injuries.

As, on that teamsheets evidence, we absolutely should have done.

Ok if that’s what you believe blame Dyche and the ownership for not being as shrewd

[boatshed bill]

They made up injuries, I think you'll find, not Covid cases.

That is possible.

However; we have 19 players available tonight, only one is an Under 23, and I'm sure SD sees that as acceptable.

[jedi_master]

Ok if that’s what you believe blame Dyche and the ownership for not being as shrewd

You seem rather prickly on this subject….

[Spijed]

According to Rafa they had 12 fit and 3 touch and go including eligible u23s

And would you ever trust a word Rafa Benitez says?

I certainly never have nor ever will.

[RVclaret]

We only ever had an outside chance, that team hasn't a snowball in hells.
If we get something from this game it will be the best points we've ever earned in the Prem.

Really sad considering the missing are hardly likely to be injured, with no game in the last 18 days, I've moaned about other clubs players not being vaccinated, so it would be wrong not to moan about our own. When fans can't get into the ground without a covid passport, even if they've paid for a season ticket it's time all players manned up and did their bit.

What are you on about re. our players not being vaccinated? 1. How do you know this? and 2. You do realise that Omicron is passing vaccine resistance so it doesn’t matter if you’re vaccinated or not you are still catching it.

[Dark Cloud]

Ok so you are seriously suggesting that the premier league is corrupt with the aim of giving Burnley grief?

No, but I'd seriously assert that some teams recently have played the system to suit their own ends and got away with it and unfortunately Burnley have been on the receiving end of that more than any other. (Tonight included maybe)

[warksclaret]

Ok if that’s what you believe blame Dyche and the ownership for not being as shrewd

My fear is that SD wanted it to go ahead, to make a point

[Newcastleclaret93]

You seem rather prickly on this subject….

It’s probably just how it comes across on text. I just don’t understand the conspiracy theories. What would the premier league benefit from allowing other teams to postpone and not us?

[fidelcastro]

Covid conspiracies aren't permitted on here.

Injury conspiracies are though.

[boatshed bill]

Kevin Long: Has he retired or something?

[Norman]

My fear is that SD wanted it to go ahead, to make a point

I'd love a point.

[ksrclaret]

Covid conspiracies aren't permitted on here.

Injury conspiracies are though.

As are people who don't understand the definition of the word conspiracy.

[Rombald]

It’s probably just how it comes across on text. I just don’t understand the conspiracy theories. What would the premier league benefit from allowing other teams to postpone and not us?

Nobody is suggesting conspiracy. We are suggesting that others have played the injury card for their advantage. Without question

[IanMcL]

Prayer available?

Come on you Clarets!

[Bosscat]

Come on you Clarets

[Milltown1882]

Nobody is suggesting conspiracy. We are suggesting that others have played the injury card for their advantage. Without question

Bang on.

[fidelcastro]

As are people who don't understand the definition of the word conspiracy.

Meaning?

[Gp8419]

When Lennon is in your starting XI in the last game of 2021 you know you’re bang in trouble. Still he’ll run around a lot and look busy so that’s a box ticked…

Give the lad a break! Our success as been our downfall I remember when we was dogshit so much negativity for godsake-I hope he shuts your gob up.

[conyoviejo]

I'd rather have them missing for this game and fit for Leeds game.

[Newcastleclaret93]

On the plus side. Burnley to win and Lennon to score at 50-1

Could be worth a cheeky tenner

[warksclaret]

Having looked at them warming up, I would have thought Pieters would have started instead of Lennon. I know that means 3 left footers in midfield with McNeil, JBG and Pieters, however last season in particular, we saw Pieters come on as a sub and play a big part as a wing man.Very experienced and gets stuck in. Do we think he is out of favour this season

[Norman]

I'd rather have them missing for this game and fit for Leeds game.

But Cornet won't have have had any match time in a while - which makes it unlikely he'll start vs Leeds. Even being benched today and 10 minutes at the end would have been something.

Which begs the question, why we bothered trying to keep him longer before the ACON.

[jedi_master]

It’s probably just how it comes across on text. I just don’t understand the conspiracy theories. What would the premier league benefit from allowing other teams to postpone and not us?

It’s not about the PL, nor a conspiracy theory.

It’s about clubs bending the rules to suit them when key players have gotten knocks, and is not doing.

You’re quite right - if I am correct in my assessment, I am as mad at Dyche as I am at Howe and Benitez, but for the opposite. The old adage ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’ has never been more true than right now. We are on an absolute precipice (potentially of financial ruin after relegation, we will see) and I would have hoped our manager would ‘play the game’ like our rivals are clearly willing to do.

Dyche is a stubborn guy, playing this game tonight for him is something I think he will see as a badge of honour (I.e, “See, my squad is tiny - but we were never asking for this off like some would” etc). Unfortunately, IF we get tubbed, that ‘honourable’ intention will look laughable.

Just my thoughts.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Having looked at them warming up, I would have thought Pieters would have started instead of Lennon. I know that means 3 left footers in midfield with McNeil, JBG and Pieters, however last season in particular, we saw Pieters come on as a sub and play a big part as a wing man.Very experienced and gets stuck in. Do we think he is out of favour this season

It’s probably to help with the balance. Lennon can try and exploit the space left by Sancho on the right

[Flixtonclaret1]

Only one team playing tonight according to Amazons pre match build up … just waiting for the Utd tea lady to be interviewed.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It’s not about the PL, nor a conspiracy theory.

It’s about clubs bending the rules to suit them when key players have gotten knocks, and is not doing.

You’re quite right - if I am correct in my assessment, I am as mad at Dyche as I am at Howe and Benitez, but for the opposite. The old adage ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’ has never been more true than right now. We are on an absolute precipice (potentially of financial ruin after relegation, we will see) and I would have hoped our manager would ‘play the game’ like our rivals are clearly willing to do.

Dyche is a stubborn guy, playing this game tonight for him is something I think he will see as a badge of honour (I.e, “See, my squad is tiny - but we were never asking for this off like some would” etc). Unfortunately, IF we get tubbed, that ‘honourable’ intention will look laughable.

Just my thoughts.

I agree, we should be exploiting this if we can. We need points from every game now.

[wilks_bfc]

Dyche just said Lennon as the 10

[boatshed bill]

It’s not about the PL, nor a conspiracy theory.



Dyche is a stubborn guy, playing this game tonight for him is something I think he will see as a badge of honour (I.e, “See, my squad is tiny - but we were never asking for this off like some would” etc). Unfortunately, IF we get tubbed, that ‘honourable’ intention will look laughable.

Just my thoughts.

Could be more like he realises they need a game to keep them sharp.

[ksrclaret]

Dyche just said Lennon as the 10

Please no

FFS Dyche

[bfcjg]

If we get something from this game with that team we will stay up.

[BurnleyFC]

That starting line up is pretty frightening.

[boatshed bill]

That starting line up is pretty frightening.

Not to Man Utd