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Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:29 am
by Steve1956
Two teams until recently we were on a par with,miles ahead of us now,they opted for change.....and it worked,we should take note,

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:32 am
by Hapag Lloyd
Both teams bankrolled by billionaire owners.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:35 am
by Steve1956
Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:32 am
Both teams bankrolled by billionaire owners.
So we might as well just pack it in then and give up ....eh?

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:37 am
by Hapag Lloyd
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:35 am
So we might as well just pack it in then and give up ....eh?
Where did I say that…….eh?

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:38 am
by Steve1956
Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:37 am
Where did I say that…….eh?
No billionaire is ever going to take us over,.....so let's give in,let's not try,let's not change.....game over.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:40 am
by Spijed
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:29 am
Two teams until recently we were on a par with,miles ahead of us now,they opted for change.....and it worked,we should take note,
But we don't have the same money to spend on players and wages.

As I said elsewhere, our achievements, like-for-like, are highly unlikely to be matched again in top flight football.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:44 am
by Hapag Lloyd
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:38 am
No billionaire is ever going to take us over,.....so let's give in,let's not try,let's not change.....game over.
by Steve1956
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Leicester postponed?
Replies: 129
Views: 6171
Re: Burnley vs Leicester postponed?
Time to abandon this season,causing so much inconvenience for people,scrap this season now...covid isn't going to go away,start afresh next August,it's becoming farcical and to be honest f..King boring.

Sounds like you already have.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:44 am
by Steve1956
Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:40 am
But we don't have the same money to spend on players and wages.

As I said elsewhere, our achievements, like-for-like, are highly unlikely to be matched again in top flight football.
We can't compete then,then Premier league has become a billionaires plaything.....I'm out,there is simply no point to it anymore.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:45 am
by Steve1956
Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:44 am
by Steve1956
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Leicester postponed?
Replies: 129
Views: 6171
Re: Burnley vs Leicester postponed?
Time to abandon this season,causing so much inconvenience for people,scrap this season now...covid isn't going to go away,start afresh next August,it's becoming farcical and to be honest f..King boring.

Sounds like you already have.
Well done.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:37 pm
by superdimitri
RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:53 am
Potter has a net transfer spend of under £60m, not bad. My point was to turn the football from the negative rigid stuff of Hughton to the possession based progressive football they can play is quite impressive. They frequently have a high xG, creating chances but probably lack that clinical touch the next wage/transfer bracket brings. I hope one day we can get back to being able to retain the ball and play a better brand of football.
To push playing better football you need to spend money and they've spent plenty of that. They may have dealt well the last couple of years but before that they were spending like mad and it's the prior spending that's meant they can trade well. They also haven't been any more successful than we have until this season.

Plus, they can still decline the second part of this season.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:48 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Brighton have spent North on £250m over the past 4 yrs
All this talk about them being a well run club is disingenuous
Without the Deep Pocket owner giving vast amounts of his own money to the club they would be bankrupt

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:50 pm
by RVclaret
superdimitri wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:37 pm
To push playing better football you need to spend money and they've spent plenty of that. They may have dealt well the last couple of years but before that they were spending like mad and it's the prior spending that's meant they can trade well. They also haven't been any more successful than we have until this season.

Plus, they can still decline the second part of this season.
Agree but a net spend under Potter of £60m is one of the lowest in the league. And fair points regarding this season being the only one they’ve done better but that style of football does take a bit to understand and see fruition.

Re: Brighton v Palace

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:41 pm
by superdimitri
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:48 pm
Brighton have spent North on £250m over the past 4 yrs
All this talk about them being a well run club is disingenuous
Without the Deep Pocket owner giving vast amounts of his own money to the club they would be bankrupt
If they didn't get promoted last time they did, they would have been in trouble. Same with Villa.
The old FFP ruling meant these clubs could spend as much as they wanted on wages the season after they got promoted, that ruling immediately put a club like ours at a disadvantage if clubs with rich owners were our relegation rivals. Now FFP is just seen as a farce, and clubs seem to be able to spend whatever they like.
RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:50 pm
Agree but a net spend under Potter of £60m is one of the lowest in the league. And fair points regarding this season being the only one they’ve done better but that style of football does take a bit to understand and see fruition.
All they did in my view was sell White for the right amount, they were lucky enough Arsenal came in for him and spent that much. If Keane was interested in bigger clubs than Everton then we may have had the same fortune. Fact is, we kept buying players who were older and older and not making as much money on them. Tarkowski being a good example.
We sold Keane at 24, and bought his replacement at the same age.

Even if we had Tarkowski under contract we wouldn't get much for him now because he's 29.