Dyche or Pace
Dyche or Pace
Been quiet since the Wood transfer
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I think they’ll both be working extremely hard on recruitment, its a tough ask though within in a limited period. Neither will be wanting us to drop a division so for anyone thinking they’re just sat twiddling their thumbs think again.
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By extremely hard, do you mean, rifling through the over 30's at Stoke?
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What do you want them to say? Alan Pace certainly doesn't give Corporate BS interviews in the bucket load. Give him a chance FFS.
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They’ll probably be trying to sort their differences atm because they want completely different things from signings. Absolute disaster waiting to happen.
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Re: Dyche or Pace
We undoubtedly need new blood and quickly, but I'd rather we got the right signings rather than just snap up anybody for the sake of it.
Yes it's urgent, but let's wait and see how our squad looks at the end of the window before jumping to conclusions.
If we don't recruit a couple of starters then Dyche and Pace will rightly feel the burnt of the fans ire, so down to them to make things happen.
Yes it's urgent, but let's wait and see how our squad looks at the end of the window before jumping to conclusions.
If we don't recruit a couple of starters then Dyche and Pace will rightly feel the burnt of the fans ire, so down to them to make things happen.
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Trying to get the damn FAX machine to work.ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:39 pmBy extremely hard, do you mean, rifling through the over 30's at Stoke?
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Both shopping in different areas
Pace wants young european guys with potential
Dyche wants Carroll
Not quite singing from the same hymn sheet
Pace wants young european guys with potential
Dyche wants Carroll
Not quite singing from the same hymn sheet
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Re: Dyche or Pace
Absolutely no evidence to support this whatsoever.
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Sean may feel the Everton gig is a good escape plan as Rafa is clearly dead man walking after defeat at Norwich
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He’s not going to say anything but….
Newcastle activated his release clause so when that happens it’s out of the club’s hands. It’s just part of the game. I’m focused on getting the players I have ready and we are looking at how we can affect the market but it’s always difficult market to operate in.
Not much more he can say
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Delaying tactics to sign somebody because we've run out of road until we do. Newcastle did the same. Why shouldn't we?
If there is anything to worry about it's what was said above; I don't think Dyche and Pace are on the same wavelength. I'm extremely dubious that Dyche drove the Cornet transfer. One of the more talented players we've had in a long time, yet we're planted in the bottom three.
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Apart from multiple sources. And Dyche’s track record of signing past it players from Stoke and the Carroll link. If it was Dyche’s way we’d only sign Carroll and Defoe this month.
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I don't think the Everton fans would be overly excited with SD being revealedWoodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:00 pmSean may feel the Everton gig is a good escape plan as Rafa is clearly dead man walking after defeat at Norwich
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He was milking the fact Maxwel couldn’t speak the lingo for long enough - clear then it wasn’t his buyKazoo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:01 pmDelaying tactics to sign somebody because we've run out of road until we do. Newcastle did the same. Why shouldn't we?
If there is anything to worry about it's what was said above; I don't think Dyche and Pace are on the same wavelength. I'm extremely dubious that Dyche drove the Cornet transfer. One of the more talented players we've had in a long time, yet we're planted in the bottom three.
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Sean can feel what he wants about the Everton gig…. Not a snowballs chance everton will have him anywhere near.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:00 pmSean may feel the Everton gig is a good escape plan as Rafa is clearly dead man walking after defeat at Norwich
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Dyche would be an excellent choice for Everton and I think he would happily accept if offered
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Our transfer dealings since our Europa experience has been on par with our form in the past 25 games. There is nothing to suggest an improvement in either area.Half way through the window with no hint of a signing, and the three key players signed last window have totalled around 11 PL starts. You reap what you sow in the PL
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Multiple sources? Which are these really reliable sources?Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:01 pmApart from multiple sources. And Dyche’s track record of signing past it players from Stoke and the Carroll link. If it was Dyche’s way we’d only sign Carroll and Defoe this month.
You or I have no idea who Dyche or Pace want to sign this window. Nor whether there’s any disagreement. All twitter talk and we all know how much **** is spoken on there.
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We can dream - saves the ridiculous expense it would cost to sack him.
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No PL club will sign a PL manager with one win in 25, and who manages a side thats doomed to go down. The same happened to Chris Wilder.Took a year to find a new club
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Dyche going to Everton would get us out of a very sticky situation re compensation.
Unfortunately there is not a cat hell's chance of them looking twice.
Unfortunately there is not a cat hell's chance of them looking twice.
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Let's face it with the brand of football he is associated with be it by desire or circumstances not even is would want him if he'd never managed us.
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Wilder would have still been looking if Gibson wasn’t desperate to see the back end of warnock.warksclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:09 pmNo PL club will sign a PL manager with one win in 25, and who manages a side thats doomed to go down. The same happened to Chris Wilder.Took a year to find a new club
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Whole new levels of dumb****ery on display atmBurnley1989 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:10 pmThe crap coming from some fans at the minute is as extreme as I’ve seen
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Absolutely. Their fans are already angry at the tactics and football Rafa has brought, highly doubt the owners would be that stupid to hire another manager associated with poor football.
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Everton coming in for Dyche
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Do they? Where’s this been said and what are these difference’s?Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:41 pmThey’ll probably be trying to sort their differences atm because they want completely different things from signings. Absolute disaster waiting to happen.
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Again posters putting 2x2 together & coming up with 88, since when have Pace & Dyche been at loggerheads over signings, you only have to look at the summer transfers.
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Dyche’s stock will be at its lowest since 2012/13. The general perception whether we like it or not is that he has not moved with the times. No PL club would want him. His best option would be a wallowing ‘biggish’ club in the Championship like the Florists or the Bluenoses
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Just out of interest, when I hear “Dyche angry about Woods transfer”………is he angry with a player moving to a relegation rival basically showing no loyalty (not that there is any in football) and maybe reflecting an unhappy dressing room….
Or angry with Pace (can’t see how it’s his fault)…..
Or angry re Garlick……
Or……..just angry?
Or angry with Pace (can’t see how it’s his fault)…..
Or angry re Garlick……
Or……..just angry?
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Think the more time Pace talks to Dyche he will realise that he has given a massive contract to someone that fundamentally does not agree with his own position. I much prefer Alan's idea of bringing in younger playing and playing more attractive football. Dyche might even walk with a few more sales like Wood, heres hoping.
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People are just talking rubbish.
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Re: Dyche or Pace
Does this have to be "either or?"
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Dyche would get a job in the Championship fairly easily you’d suspect, but there’s not a PL chairman who’d touch him, and rightly so.
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Wow do people seriously think that we would have offered Dyche a new contract and he would have accepted if the vision by him and Pace wasn’t aligned?
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No commentJarrowClaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:02 pmWow do people seriously think that we would have offered Dyche a new contract and he would have accepted if the vision by him and Pace wasn’t aligned?
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Feel the same but unfortunately we are in the quiet minority. Most just want us to pay what teams ask for on players not worth the asking price just so we buy someone. Look at that Liverpool Phillips at £15m for example. He’s basically the Liverpool version of Paddy McNair.tiger76 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:43 pmWe undoubtedly need new blood and quickly, but I'd rather we got the right signings rather than just snap up anybody for the sake of it.
Yes it's urgent, but let's wait and see how our squad looks at the end of the window before jumping to conclusions.
If we don't recruit a couple of starters then Dyche and Pace will rightly feel the burnt of the fans ire, so down to them to make things happen.
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Unfortunately, Dyche has now put Burnley in a position where even the media are taking the p@#$ out of us.Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:01 pmApart from multiple sources. And Dyche’s track record of signing past it players from Stoke and the Carroll link. If it was Dyche’s way we’d only sign Carroll and Defoe this month.
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I understand why people are twitchy given our place at the foot of the league, but panic buying is not the answer, and it's worth considering whoever we buy in this window will probably be at the club for 2-3 years, and also be earning during that period, what we need is quality not quantity, and to attain that desired quality we'll have to hold our nerve and possibly wait until the last few days of the window, when selling clubs might then be forced to lower their asking prices if they want guys off their books.Foshiznik wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:20 pmFeel the same but unfortunately we are in the quiet minority. Most just want us to pay what teams ask for on players not worth the asking price just so we buy someone. Look at that Liverpool Phillips at £15m for example. He’s basically the Liverpool version of Paddy McNair.
£15m for Phillips is ludicrous, and we nabbed Collins for less than that, not to mention his wages will no doubt be sky high.
Better to be patient, I believe it is considered a virtue.
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Do people really believe that Dyche’s preference is for >30s players, or could it just be that that’s often all that is available to him with the resources he’s given?
And where is the evidence that he never wanted Cornet? After a short bedding-in period (which most new signings undergo) he’s started every time he’s been fit.
What I am confident about is that if SD felt for a minute that his Chairman was interfering in the management of the team, you wouldn’t see his arse for dust.
Some sh!te being talked on here indeed!…
And where is the evidence that he never wanted Cornet? After a short bedding-in period (which most new signings undergo) he’s started every time he’s been fit.
What I am confident about is that if SD felt for a minute that his Chairman was interfering in the management of the team, you wouldn’t see his arse for dust.
Some sh!te being talked on here indeed!…
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I don't actually agree with what's being said here, but it's bloody funny!
https://youtu.be/UomNoskgi5o
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