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Rafa

Post by Shaggy » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:56 pm

Be surprised if he’s in the role for much longer. Hope he is as it’s better for us.

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Re: Rafa

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:04 pm

He’ll be gone after today I reckon.

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Re: Rafa

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:05 pm

He’s been given an impossible job. But surely the time is right now to part ways.

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Re: Rafa

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:05 pm

He won’t survive that today, no chance.

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Re: Rafa

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:31 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:05 pm
He’s been given an impossible job. But surely the time is right now to part ways.
I'm curious how has he been given an impossible job?

And from memory they've garnered 6 points from 12 games, which is even worse than Burnley have acquired in the same period, so how Rafa survives I really can't imagine.

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Re: Rafa

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:50 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:31 pm
I'm curious how has he been given an impossible job?

And from memory they've garnered 6 points from 12 games, which is even worse than Burnley have acquired in the same period, so how Rafa survives I really can't imagine.
Couldn’t really sign players due to FFP.

A team that was already underperforming.

One of the fanbases in the country that turns on its manager the quickest.

It’s an unusual club.

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Re: Rafa

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:52 pm

Their new ground will look good in Div 1 . ;)

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Re: Rafa

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:54 pm

They'll have a new manager just in time to play us no doubt..

They do like to change managers quite a lot.
I'm not sure what they expect, they've always been also rans, best of the rest type teams, but they've been left behind for even that slot in the last half a dozen seasons.

They sign crap players and play crap football

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Re: Rafa

Post by bobinho » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:54 pm

They are most definitely an unusual club.

Spend millions every year, serious millions and for what? Stagnation.

And their fans are amongst the most deluded anywhere. They think they should be in the CL every year! Actually, maybe they should considering what they spend.

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Re: Rafa

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:59 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:50 pm
Couldn’t really sign players due to FFP.

A team that was already underperforming.

One of the fanbases in the country that turns on its manager the quickest.

It’s an unusual club.
Lampard couldn't sign players at Chelsea in his 1st season but he still got them playing to a decent level.

And if a team is underperforming then surely it's the job of a new manager to improve them, if anything Everton have regressed under Rafa.

He always faced a poisoned chalice at Goodison, and in a similar way that Utd haven't got over Fergie leaving, then Everton haven't moved on from Moyes leaving, and at some stage Burnley may well face a similar problem after Dyche moves on, this can always be an issue with a long-serving manager.

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Re: Rafa

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:16 pm

Dyche and Benitez are so similar,only difference is Benitez has always had lots of money to spend.

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Re: Rafa

Post by buzzclarets79 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:20 pm

They’ll give him a 4 yr deal, that’s what you do when you can’t win a game of football isn’t it….

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Re: Rafa

Post by Shaggy » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:32 pm

Emergency board meeting at goodison this evening

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Re: Rafa

Post by Aclaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:37 pm

That means he's either " sacked in the morning " or he gets the dreaded vote of confidence...either way it's bye Rafa.

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Re: Rafa

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:39 pm

Bye Rafa, hopefully we int play them withing 2 9r 3 games of their new appointment, as they'll obviously be a new manager bounce.

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Re: Rafa

Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:44 pm

He was very unlucky to lose DCL for the first half of the season but they don’t appear to be playing for him and that’s the time for a change. The protests have possibly got through to the team.

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Re: Rafa

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:28 pm

Sounds like a board meeting at Everton tonight.......

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Re: Rafa

Post by warksclaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:02 pm

Ferguson in temp charge I suspect
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Re: Rafa

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:04 pm

Sounds like he’s gone. Reckon they’ll go for Lampard.

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Re: Rafa

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:08 pm

Nice, decent, honest guy, but not really a very good football manager, especially if he can't access shed loads of cash! And even when he can he doesn't spend it particularly well. One of more than several ridiculously overrated managers who have made and banked a fortune out of mediocrity. (Champions league being a real fluke of course! 😁)

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Re: Rafa

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:10 pm

Was on a hiding to nothing going there, and a stupid decision by him to want the job.

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Re: Rafa

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:13 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:02 pm
Ferguson in temp charge I suspect
They'd do well to keep him in charge, at least until the end of the season, he at worst will bring the fans back onside.

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Re: Rafa

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:28 pm

I just love Everton. Spend an absolute fortune yet they're always sh!t.
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Re: Rafa

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:28 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:13 pm
They'd do well to keep him in charge, at least until the end of the season, he at worst will bring the fans back onside.
The only question with DF is his temperament, he’d be worse than being in with Sir Alex in his prime… can managers get away with it these days? Of course on the flip side, he did a decent enough job caretaking last time and he certainly has the passion for the club that would get the club united in an instant.

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Re: Rafa

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:29 pm

The pundits though fawn over him and his ilk, it's all Rafa this Rafa that he'll sort out Everton or insert clubs name. I think Conte is another one, cut the cash and they are crap.

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Re: Rafa

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:29 pm

9 months ago we would have had "Dyche To Everton" :D

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Re: Rafa

Post by Shaggy » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:36 pm

Rumour has it he’s been bagged.

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Re: Rafa

Post by MrTopTier » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:40 pm

Rooney next Everton manager. Especially the way Derby are going.

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Re: Rafa

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:42 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:40 pm
Rooney next Everton manager. Especially the way Derby are going.
Never considered him, he'd be a left field appointment, but I can see why they'd consider it.

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Re: Rafa

Post by MrTopTier » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:49 pm

Agreed Tiger, however Derby’s financials are a mess and Rooney is on big money there. Compensation plus Rooney off the books helps Derby’s finance and gives Everton a lift. Lampard goes back to Derby, so everyone happyish and the Media start talking about Rooney using Everton as a stepping stone to the Utd job.

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Re: Rafa

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:27 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:40 pm
Rooney next Everton manager. Especially the way Derby are going.
The Derby way, they call it :lol:
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Re: Rafa

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:25 am

I wonder which over-rated foreigner they'll employ this time
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Re: Rafa

Post by beddie » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:38 am

Dyche won’t be high profile enough for them.

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Re: Rafa

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:15 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:10 pm
Was on a hiding to nothing going there, and a stupid decision by him to want the job.
He signed a rumoured 45 million quid contract over 3 years. On what planet was it a stupid decision by him?!

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Re: Rafa

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:27 am

Apparently gone (or going)
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Re: Rafa

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:39 am

beddie wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:38 am
Dyche won’t be good enough for them.
Fixed it for you.

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Re: Rafa

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:44 am

Sign Digne because he fell out with Rafa and replace him with an inferior player and then sack Rafa

Club is run by an absolute basket case

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Re: Rafa

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:45 pm

They could do worse !
Try to prise Gerrard from Villa 🤣

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Re: Rafa

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:56 pm

And he's gone

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Re: Rafa

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:58 pm

No surprise there.

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Re: Rafa

Post by taio » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:59 pm

Inevitable. Did a terrible job there.

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Re: Rafa

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:59 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:15 am
He signed a rumoured 45 million quid contract over 3 years. On what planet was it a stupid decision by him?!

He's lasted just 6 months, a hiding to nothing, but if you measure everything by money, then what a fabulous decision it was. :roll:

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Re: Rafa

Post by taio » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:04 pm

He was on £15m a year? Surely no chance.

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