Formation for the Arsenal game

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Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:15 am

It's time for Dyche to drop this 442 that's not working, with the limited player's we have up front I personally think it's time to go 4231if the game goes ahead :lol:

My team with the player's we have

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Tarkowski
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Or

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Pieters
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:18 am

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Tucker, Helm, Westwood, McNeil
Lennon
Jay Rod

Why not try something new

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by colne-claret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:31 am

Play for a point

Pope
Roberts Collins Tarkowski Long Mee Peters Taylor
Westwood Cork Brownhill

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Goobs » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:34 am

Impossible to predict considering we don't know who will be available.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:56 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:15 am
It's time for Dyche to drop this 442 that's not working, with the limited player's we have up front I personally think it's time to go 4231if the game goes ahead :lol:

My team with the player's we have

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Tarkowski
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Or

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Pieters
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Square pegs in round holes won’t work. Plus has roberts ever played in cm? Or is this the same as when everyone obsessed about Taylor being a cb because he played there in a friendly once?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Andreshotboots » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 am

I thought Taylor was having a scan? Doubt he’ll be available for this game if that’s the case..

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:56 am
Square pegs in round holes won’t work. Plus has roberts ever played in cm? Or is this the same as when everyone obsessed about Taylor being a cb because he played there in a friendly once?
If you think Roberts in that formation is cm then that goes to show you know nothing about football

On the subject of Square pegs in round holes, have you ever noticed how Dyche plays our wingers

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:49 am

Game will probably be off.

If not we'll be playing a 4 4 0 formation. We've barely any players.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:50 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 am
I thought Taylor was having a scan? Doubt he’ll be available for this game if that’s the case..
And the scan shows nothing does he still not play ??? No results back yet

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 am
I thought Taylor was having a scan? Doubt he’ll be available for this game if that’s the case..
I have a sneaking suspicion that the scan will come back clear!
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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by nyclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:55 am

Roberts holding mid? Have I honestly read that correctly?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:57 am

I agree with 4-2-3-1. Assuming all fit, I’d go for:

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Brownhill Westwood
JBG Lennon McNeil
JRod

Try and keep it tight. Work on fitness. Robert’s on last 20 for some crosses/throws to snatch it.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:01 am

nyclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:55 am
Roberts holding mid? Have I honestly read that correctly?
I know let's stick to the tried and tested 442 with Tarkowski who doesn't look interested and a midfield that can't protect the defence and wingers on the wrong sides because that's worked in the last 21 game's.......oh hang on, sir Dyche has kept us up for a few season's let him still dine out on that reputation because it clearly works still :lol:

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by claretandbluesky » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:03 am

Assuming everyone fit then definitely time for a new approach. Always like the Aussies cricket team approach, pick your best 11 players.
Now of course that doesn’t necessarily translate well to soccer but I’d certainly be looking to get Collins and Roberts playing. So something a little more dynamic with the opportunity for a more fluid formation with the ability to counter

Pope


Lawton. Collins. Mee. Taylor

Tarkowski

Roberts. Westwood
Brownhill

McNeil
Rodriguez

Feel we need to get Brownhill into scoring situations, his record at City was pretty good.
It might be argued it’s an over defensive system 6 defenders but I think it might offer us some fluidity giving the full backs more chance to overlap and more importantly give us a real presence at set pieces. Obviously the danger is players not adapting and taking each other’s space but for me other than Vydra that’s our best 11. Would like to see Helm and Mancini on the bench.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:04 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:57 am
I agree with 4-2-3-1. Assuming all fit, I’d go for:

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Brownhill Westwood
JBG Lennon McNeil
JRod

Try and keep it tight. Work on fitness. Robert’s on last 20 for some crosses/throws to snatch it.
Swap Tarkowski for Collins and McNeil for one of the wingers and it's worth trying instead of 442 that's clearly not

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by claretandbluesky » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:06 am

Sorry Lowton didn’t check, could do with Lawton now though.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:09 am

Pope
Tarks Mee
Westwood Brownhill Cork
JBG Lennon Jay McNeil Pieters

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 am

nyclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:55 am
Roberts holding mid? Have I honestly read that correctly?
Roberts in the past with other clubs has played

Right back
Central Defensive midfield (the role I picked)
Right wing
Left back

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by nyclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:13 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:01 am
I know let's stick to the tried and tested 442 with Tarkowski who doesn't look interested and a midfield that can't protect the defence and wingers on the wrong sides because that's worked in the last 21 game's.......oh hang on, sir Dyche has kept us up for a few season's let him still dine out on that reputation because it clearly works still :lol:
I think you’re missing my point. Does Roberts even playing holding mid? Why would you try to squeeze him in? Surely you’d go for someone who actually plays in that position?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by nyclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:15 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 am
Roberts in the past with other clubs has played

Right back
Central Defensive midfield (the role I picked)
Right wing
Left back
How many games has he played in CDM?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:19 am

nyclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:13 am
I think you’re missing my point. Does Roberts even playing holding mid? Why would you try to squeeze him in? Surely you’d go for someone who actually plays in that position?
I'd squeeze him in to cover Lowton if Lowton down the wing, I'd squeeze him him for the massive long throws he can put into the box and I'd squeeze him in to link up with Lennon and we've not seen what he can do, it can be no worse that what is happening on the pitch at the moment

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by nyclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:21 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:19 am
I'd squeeze him in to cover Lowton if Lowton down the wing, I'd squeeze him him for the massive long throws he can put into the box and I'd squeeze him in to link up with Lennon and we've not seen what he can do, it can be no worse that what is happening on the pitch at the moment
Why not just stick him up front then? :lol:

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:22 am

nyclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:15 am
How many games has he played in CDM?
How many games did Cornet play up front before he come to Burnley, Cornet was a left back when we signed him

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:22 am

nyclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:21 am
Why not just stick him up front then? :lol:
We might have to if our only fit striker gets injured :lol: :lol:

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by nyclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:26 am

Roberts and Pieters as holding midfielders might be the worst suggestion i’ve ever seen on this message board.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:34 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 am
Roberts in the past with other clubs has played

Right back
Central Defensive midfield (the role I picked)
Right wing
Left back
Kevin Long played up front for us but I doubt any other club would give him that gig ;)

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:09 am

Dyche will play if fit 442
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Lennon Jay Rod

With the available players likely fit I’d play 442

Pope

Lowton. Tarks…… Mee… .Pieters

Roberts Collins Brownhill Taylor

Jay Rod McNeil

I’d like to play 433
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Pieters
Roberts Collins Taylor
Vydra Jay Rod Cornet

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Norfolk Claret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:08 pm

Pope
Lowton, Tarks, Mee, Taylor
Cork
Westwood, McNeil
JBG, Lennon
JayRod
4-3-3

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by CFS » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:38 pm

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:39 pm

CFS wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:38 pm
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That’s an interesting choice playing fofana up front when he’s a CM

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:44 pm

Ben and Charlie = brothers from another mother ?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:11 pm

3 goalies and 8 others

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:26 pm

Given that we are almost certainly going into that game with one striker I’d like to see something like this depending on who’s available obviously : -
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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by CFS » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:39 pm
That’s an interesting choice playing fofana up front when he’s a CM
Might aswell play cornet in his favoured LB position too.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:27 pm

Given the form I’d probably change JBG for Lennon too, pretty sure I read somewhere that he’s injured too , might be wrong though

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:29 pm

Whoever is picked will give everything for Burnley FC!
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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Pearcey » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:53 pm

Pope
Roberts Tarky Mee Taylor
Brownhill Stephens Westwood McNeil
Lennon Jay

Harsh on Lowton but I feel we need a refresh. Stephens has looked a better option than Cork and JBG has been awful.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by LS7 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:07 pm

Lennon and Jay Rod. Are we supposed to be trying to score some goals?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Pearcey » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:11 pm

LS7 wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:07 pm
Lennon and Jay Rod. Are we supposed to be trying to score some goals?
They’re our last 2 scorers aren’t they? Who else do you suggest?

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by LS7 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:16 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:11 pm
They’re our last 2 scorers aren’t they? Who else do you suggest?
Yeah. How has it come to this. Dad's Army.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by vinrogue » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:28 pm

I was thinking an inverted Christmas tree but then I thought Christmas is gone, maybe a flat pancake at the back with hot x buns in front then I realised why I am not in charge of formations so 4 4 2 it is

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:13 pm

We need to know who is available before picking a formation.
1-10 might not be a bad idea.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:20 pm

Im guessing it'll be 4-4-2

Would prefer 4-5-1 though we are probably going to get pasted otherwise

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Nonayforever » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:39 pm

Pope
Bardsley Long Mee Pieters
JGB Cork Stephens Lennon
J Rod Carroll

Dyches ( dad's) army.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by summitclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:55 pm

Assuming everyone accept Barnes and Vyds can start.

Pope
Collins Tarks Mee
Lowton Westwood Brownhill Taylor
Lennon Jay Dwight

Got to get some sort of control in cm and probably get our goals via set piece headers.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:22 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 am
If you think Roberts in that formation is cm then that goes to show you know nothing about football

On the subject of Square pegs in round holes, have you ever noticed how Dyche plays our wingers
I’m not the one advocating for a right back to play in cm/cdm (whichever way you want to interpret it) and a centre back in cm/cdm. You clearly didn’t see how tarks did in that position when Keane was here in his cameos in that role, or going further back how we put square pegs in round holes in the 2010 season which didn’t work....again.

On the subject of how Dyche plays our wingers, have we had any choice? He usually plays McNeil on the left - his position and JBG on the right, again his position. Occasionally he has swapped McNeil to the right which didn’t work because again, it’s a square peg in a round hole.

Yet I know nothing about football :lol:

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by alwaysaclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:49 pm

According to dyche's press conference, transfers - : Nothing to report, injuries/covid - : couple back from each, 16 training, Taylor touch and go.

Taylor out for the season then ???

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by bf2k » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:16 pm

Formation for Arsenal...Employ Mick & Paddy at the back with a ton of sand, 10 bags of cement and oh around 200 block to brick up the goal

Then repeat for the second half.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:24 pm

Nobody who has ever been "touch and go" in Dyche's terms has actually played! So no Taylor.
Without knowing who is available and who isn't and it all being so fluid right now, this thread is completely impossible. I would however like to see Roberts given a go if he's fit and if Jay is our only fit striker then get Mellon or McGlynn on the bench.

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Re: Formation for the Arsenal game

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:21 pm

Well Arsenal are missing two midfielders so we might see a 4-5-1 or we could really fox them and play, like City, with no striker in a flexible 4-6

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