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Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 pm

Currently in high dependence unit in hospital with this , anyone else had it ? , thing is I don’t feel to bad but I need constant monitoring, so I would have missed the Arsenal game regardless :roll:

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:05 pm

Hope you're out and better soon mate.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:08 pm

Yikes that’s heavy stuff for a flutter , best of luck you’ll home in no time
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:11 pm

All the very best for a speedy recovery and back home soon

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:21 pm

joey13 wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 pm
Currently in high dependence unit in hospital with this , anyone else had it ? , thing is I don’t feel to bad but I need constant monitoring, so I would have missed the Arsenal game regardless :roll:
All the best Joey 👍 hope it all gets sorted

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:24 pm

Good luck mate, I did though think it was a betting tip you were posting.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:24 pm

Hope you recover soon Joey.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:25 pm

All the best for a speedy return and full recovery!

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by jdrobbo » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:29 pm

Atrial fibrillation. Can be treated with medication but any time you experience it (a scary experience), always go to your hospital or minor injuries to have it monitored. My wife’s mum has it every few years. Wishing you the very best with it.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:30 pm

Gt well soon, hopefully incoming Clarets news, pleases, rather than causes further problems. All the best joey13.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by DCWat » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:31 pm

joey13 wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 pm
Currently in high dependence unit in hospital with this , anyone else had it ? , thing is I don’t feel to bad but I need constant monitoring, so I would have missed the Arsenal game regardless :roll:
I blame all the excitement of the transfer window 🥴

In all seriousness m, best wishes and hopefully you’ll be out soon.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Myk » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:38 pm

I’ve had Atrial fibrillation on and off since I was 17.

If they think its not been in a flutter for long and as you’re already in hospital they might just give you a cardioversion within 24h to take it out of AF. Basically they put a pad on your back and 2 on your chest while you’re out and shock you to restart your heart in a normal rhythm.

If not, when I had it anyhow, it was warfarin daily with weekly blood tests to check your INR levels and when they were between a certain level they would then book you in for cardioversion, maze procedure, Left atrial appendage closure etc depending on what would be best for you etc.

Took me 3 cardioversions to sort mine once and for all.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by bfcmatt » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:42 pm

I am currently suffering from PVCs and on Beta Blockers for them, they are driving me insane, it feels like my heart is going to beat out of my chest when they start and quite often keep me awake at night (I am in my mid 40's so this is a bit of a wake up call for me I might even get the tredmill out of the box i bought last summer). I have an appointment with a cardiologist in a couple of weeks so hopefully get some more answers. I hope you get good news with yours and are out of Hospital soon.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 pm

Had it for years. With the medication, it is something you get used to living with. Suggest you do as the doctors say. Stay safe.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Elder statesman » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 pm

I've had it for a long time. Had a cardioversion, which worked for 24 hours. I'm on medication to control it. The main risk is a stroke. Hence I'm on Xarelto, a blood thinner for life. If cardioversions don't work, the next step is usually an ablation. However, in my case, given my age, the cardiologist didn't recommend it. The meds seem to work for me, but they don't like putting young people on meds for life. Take care.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 pm

Cheers everyone, thanks for the good wishes and valuable info
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by LoveCurryPies » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:52 pm

joey13 wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 pm
Currently in high dependence unit in hospital with this , anyone else had it ? , thing is I don’t feel to bad but I need constant monitoring, so I would have missed the Arsenal game regardless :roll:
Which hospital?

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by minnieclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:04 pm

Only good thoughts for you, Joey. Back ont’Turf to cheer us on quick as poss.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by mybloodisclaret » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:38 pm

Wishing you well Joey. Speedy recovery pal.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by jos » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:47 pm

Your in the right place, they’ll sort you out. Take care UTC.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by markbutts » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:05 pm

Hope you're OK Joey (PB). Will mention it to my mum. Best wishes, Mark
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by lakesider » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:00 am

I had atrial fibrillation ( after one too many massive beer sessions followed by a Domino's!). Was put on rivaroxiban to keep the blood thin to guard against a clot. After being on a never ending waiting list for two years I went private. Had an ablation done that week. In hospital 24 hours, had a general and they managed to correct it first time ( the consultant at Blackpool heart unit said it can sometimes take a couple of go's but I got lucky.) Still on the rivaroxiban. Why not? Haven't detected any side effects and keeps the red stuff circulating for a 67 year old smoker. Hope they treat you similarly and get you out of there as soon as possible!

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:08 am

Good luck with it all & if the specialists advise any lifestyle changes I’d recommend following the advice given.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by basil6345789 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:11 am

I wouldn't worry now that they're onto it. Flutter is not just the same as AF. Cardioversion and ablation might sort it but if not you'll probably go on an anticoagulant like apixaban - needs virtually no monitoring, unlike warfarin. I can't take beta-blockers as I have slight asthma, so I just take something to slow-down the ticker a wee bit. You'll hardly notice anything.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:26 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:52 pm
Which hospital?
Jersey

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:04 am

Hope you're up and about soon, joey

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:10 am

Thanks again everyone, cardio version booked in 3 weeks time , hopefully that will sort it .
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:49 am

joey13 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:10 am
Thanks again everyone, cardio version booked in 3 weeks time , hopefully that will sort it .
I hope it sorts it too joey. Can I ask, how did this present? What were the initial symptoms of this? I’ve been having what feels like missed beats for weeks now combined with headaches when they’re bad. I put it down to stress. Had an ECG last week but it was all normal (apart from atrial p wave whatever that is!) but when I had the ECG I wasn’t experiencing these bloody missed beats - are these flutters do you think? Should I go back again?

To add - these seem worse at night and I have trouble sleeping too which is compounding the problem I think

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:27 am

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:49 am
I hope it sorts it too joey. Can I ask, how did this present? What were the initial symptoms of this? I’ve been having what feels like missed beats for weeks now combined with headaches when they’re bad. I put it down to stress. Had an ECG last week but it was all normal (apart from atrial p wave whatever that is!) but when I had the ECG I wasn’t experiencing these bloody missed beats - are these flutters do you think? Should I go back again?

To add - these seem worse at night and I have trouble sleeping too which is compounding the problem I think
Yes mate
Started off with missed beats and I was diagnosed with eptopic pulse , over the next couple of months I started waking up out of breath in the middle of night , also just feeling really tired , I walked up a hill close by which I have done loads of times but was so out of breath I thought something isn’t right .
I’m on a blood thinner and a med which slows down the heart rate .
Get yourself throughly checked , echocardiogram/ treadmill it’s not worth the risk .
Hope you get sorted soon .
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:43 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:27 am
Yes mate
Started off with missed beats and I was diagnosed with eptopic pulse , over the next couple of months I started waking up out of breath in the middle of night , also just feeling really tired , I walked up a hill close by which I have done loads of times but was so out of breath I thought something isn’t right .
I’m on a blood thinner and a med which slows down the heart rate .
Get yourself throughly checked , echocardiogram/ treadmill it’s not worth the risk .
Hope you get sorted soon .
Spent all day in A&E being checked over, another ECG. Got an irregular beat going on, probably stress related and no “red flags” from bloods or anything else. Being booked for a 24 hour monitor in the coming week. I need to reduce caffeine and alcohol etc and try to relax a bit more…

Just a thanks to joey for posting this thread otherwise I would’ve just carried on and worried myself silly and probably making it worse.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:26 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:43 pm
Spent all day in A&E being checked over, another ECG. Got an irregular beat going on, probably stress related and no “red flags” from bloods or anything else. Being booked for a 24 hour monitor in the coming week. I need to reduce caffeine and alcohol etc and try to relax a bit more…

Just a thanks to joey for posting this thread otherwise I would’ve just carried on and worried myself silly and probably making it worse.
Glad you got checked out , better to be safe than sorry , all the best

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by JohnMac » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:34 pm

Best wishes for a full recovery!
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by atlantalad » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:21 pm

Interested to know if anyone with atrial flutter wears a Fitbit/ Apple Watch ( or similar) and if so, are these devices sensitive enough to pick up the flutter. I've experienced palpations for a few years now and just accept and live with it. It generally occurs, and wakes me up, during the night. Mentioned it to my GP a few years ago and he said measure my pulse rate - jeez, nigh impossible to count and sense that fast so wondering if the above devices can trace the irregularity. Should mention I've had the 24 hr monitor fitted on 3-4 occasions but nothing shows up - mainly, as stated already above, because hadn't experienced the flutter while been worn. On meds for an unrelated heart condition needing angioplasty and the flutter only seems to have started since being prescribed these meds.

ps Joey, wish you a recovery.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:06 pm

atlantalad wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:21 pm
Interested to know if anyone with atrial flutter wears a Fitbit/ Apple Watch ( or similar) and if so, are these devices sensitive enough to pick up the flutter. I've experienced palpations for a few years now and just accept and live with it. It generally occurs, and wakes me up, during the night. Mentioned it to my GP a few years ago and he said measure my pulse rate - jeez, nigh impossible to count and sense that fast so wondering if the above devices can trace the irregularity. Should mention I've had the 24 hr monitor fitted on 3-4 occasions but nothing shows up - mainly, as stated already above, because hadn't experienced the flutter while been worn. On meds for an unrelated heart condition needing angioplasty and the flutter only seems to have started since being prescribed these meds.

ps Joey, wish you a recovery.
Thanks Atlanta, my rapid heart rate wasn’t picked up by Apple Watch or a blood pressure monitor, both were giving normal readings when in fact my heart was beating twice as fast , it wasn’t until I was wired up in the hospital that the true reading was known . Even the finger monitor in A&E gave a false reading, so my advice would be take no chances.

On side note if anyone wants any info about this please don’t hesitate to ask on this thread , I would always do my best to help .
I won’t be posting on any other threads for some time, I’ve got more important things to worry about , it gets to something when people are trolling your comments on a match thread or a thread you haven’t even commented on to try and belittle you or question your support, I’ve been a supporter for over 50 years and frankly had enough , maybe going through this has made me more sensitive I don’t know , but I’m done with all the crap.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by beeholeclaret » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:09 pm

I was first diagnosed with Paroxysmal AF when I was 49 years old (just gone 63 last Saturday). Paroxsysmal means it can occur at anytime. As the condition is not regular or permanent Ive been on medication (sotalol) for most of that time and it has generally kept things under control. Ive tried the health stuff and stopped drinking coffee and tea (used to have about 8 or 9 brews per day when I was working in the bank). I even had an alcohol break for 6 or 7 years but have enjoyed a drink or three once again for the last 8 years or so without any particular bad effects. Ive had a few funny turns since November when I was taken to hospital A & E as my heart rate had fallen below 45 bpm. I tried manually feeling my pulse but it was difficult to monitor due to it being so slow and it was also stopping for about 3 or 4 seconds before then kicking in again. A & E just suggested I reduce my sotalol by half (which has got my beat back to a regular 60 bpm again).

Im not convinced this is an answer to the overall problem though. I am booked in February for an echocardiogram (ultrasound scan) and also being fitted with a 72 hour monitor afterwards. For much of December and January I have felt breathless and poorly generally although this last week I am good. I know that when I have the monitoring done in February sods law will come into play and everything will probably show up as OK.

Someone above was asking about a wrist monitor. Ive had a wristband (not Apple ) since Christmas which indicates a few things regarding my health although it doesnt specifically pick up any "heart flutters" - just the bpm are counted. It has blood pressure monitor which has generally always been fine in any case. It does have an ECG facility which produces a record of the beats over a very brief period of time (30 seconds perhaps?) and sends them to me by email. I only use it when Im feeling rough as it does indicate things have gone haywire but Im not an expert on reading these things. When things are ok there is a regular pattern to the beats but my ECG graph when feeling poorly appears to be very volatile. I sent it to a friend of friend who is a heart nurse and she simply said get a monitor fitted so they can build up a loinger term picture. Touchwood I'm feeling back to normal this last week and hope that continues.

Good luck to all who are afflicted by the different variations of this complaint. Stress is probably the biggest cause of my problems. Im now retired and the main work stress is removed. Of course I now find more minor and less important things to worry and stress about nowadays. Supporting Burnley and reading this forum is a major cause of stress and watching news on covid, the build up of troops in Ukraine and the stockmarket plummeting doesnt help. At least we've had the more sedate game of cricket to keep us calm and in a good mood whilst watching the Ashes. Oh but..........

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:42 pm

beeholeclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:09 pm
I was first diagnosed with Paroxysmal AF when I was 49 years old (just gone 63 last Saturday). Paroxsysmal means it can occur at anytime. As the condition is not regular or permanent Ive been on medication (sotalol) for most of that time and it has generally kept things under control. Ive tried the health stuff and stopped drinking coffee and tea (used to have about 8 or 9 brews per day when I was working in the bank). I even had an alcohol break for 6 or 7 years but have enjoyed a drink or three once again for the last 8 years or so without any particular bad effects. Ive had a few funny turns since November when I was taken to hospital A & E as my heart rate had fallen below 45 bpm. I tried manually feeling my pulse but it was difficult to monitor due to it being so slow and it was also stopping for about 3 or 4 seconds before then kicking in again. A & E just suggested I reduce my sotalol by half (which has got my beat back to a regular 60 bpm again).

Im not convinced this is an answer to the overall problem though. I am booked in February for an echocardiogram (ultrasound scan) and also being fitted with a 72 hour monitor afterwards. For much of December and January I have felt breathless and poorly generally although this last week I am good. I know that when I have the monitoring done in February sods law will come into play and everything will probably show up as OK.

Someone above was asking about a wrist monitor. Ive had a wristband (not Apple ) since Christmas which indicates a few things regarding my health although it doesnt specifically pick up any "heart flutters" - just the bpm are counted. It has blood pressure monitor which has generally always been fine in any case. It does have an ECG facility which produces a record of the beats over a very brief period of time (30 seconds perhaps?) and sends them to me by email. I only use it when Im feeling rough as it does indicate things have gone haywire but Im not an expert on reading these things. When things are ok there is a regular pattern to the beats but my ECG graph when feeling poorly appears to be very volatile. I sent it to a friend of friend who is a heart nurse and she simply said get a monitor fitted so they can build up a loinger term picture. Touchwood I'm feeling back to normal this last week and hope that continues.

Good luck to all who are afflicted by the different variations of this complaint. Stress is probably the biggest cause of my problems. Im now retired and the main work stress is removed. Of course I now find more minor and less important things to worry and stress about nowadays. Supporting Burnley and reading this forum is a major cause of stress and watching news on covid, the build up of troops in Ukraine and the stockmarket plummeting doesnt help. At least we've had the more sedate game of cricket to keep us calm and in a good mood whilst watching the Ashes. Oh but..........
Good luck beehole, can I ask if you have any swelling feet/ankles ?

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by beeholeclaret » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:35 pm

Joey….

No I’ve not had problems with swollen feet or ankles. I am heavier than at any previous time in my life so try to do a daily walk of at least 30 minutes. I think the tablets slow down my heart and possibly my metabolism (unless that’s just age). I think for anyone the weight issue can be a vicious circle. If you don’t do exercise the weight goes on. If the weight goes on it’s difficult to exercise.

Good luck with your condition and hope they can sort you out.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:16 pm

So back in high dependency :roll: very debilitating and annoying, another cardio version taking place on Friday hopefully it will last a bit longer and I can make some plans to comeover and watch the Clarets

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by Rowls » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:25 pm

All the best joey13 - hope you're receiving the best possible care and attention.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by beeholeclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:48 pm

Sorry to hear this Joey.

Have you been on any arrhythmia tablets since your pre ious episodes in January?

Good luck with your treatment.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by ArmchairDetective » Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:41 pm

All the best Joey.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by warksclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:45 pm

Don't know you Joey, but would want to wish any fellow claret a speedy and full recovery. Hope you are well enough to return home soon
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:20 pm

beeholeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:48 pm
Sorry to hear this Joey.

Have you been on any arrhythmia tablets since your pre ious episodes in January?

Good luck with your treatment.
Yes beehole Sotalol unfortunately not really helped

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:23 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:45 pm
Don't know you Joey, but would want to wish any fellow claret a speedy and full recovery. Hope you are well enough to return home soon
Many on here would think you’re lucky :D although I’m not as bad in real life :)
Thanks for good wishes.

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by beeholeclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:53 pm

joey13 wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:20 pm
Yes beehole Sotalol unfortunately not really helped

I was on Sotalol for 10 years plus. 80mg twice per day. This had the effect of slowing my heart down to the point that it was just 45bpm.

After this was reviewed in Feb I’ve stopped taking the medication completely and have been fine so far (touchwood).

They can do a procedure called ‘ablation’ where they go in with a small camera and try to zap the electrical fault which usually means no more tablets.

Hope you get sorted.
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by IanMcL » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:42 pm

Hopes dashed of a new Balkan striker!

Get well swiftly Joey13!
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:14 pm

Guess who’s back :D
after a few months of various procedures and lots of support from family and friends Joey 13 is back , fighting fit and booked my ticket for Millwall
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:17 pm

Best wishes. Glad you’re well 😊💪🏻👍🏻
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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by joey13 » Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:19 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:17 pm
Best wishes. Glad you’re well 😊💪🏻👍🏻
Thank you

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Re: Atrial Flutter

Post by NRC » Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:23 pm

well that's very selfish, Joey13 - I was about to record what's wrong with my own heart.... doesn't seem to be a point now :(

Welcome back, and in good health! :D
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