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Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:56 pm
by ecc
MO will almost certainly speak English as from my experience most people of his age do (to varying extents, of course).

But above all he played in South Korea and China for three years.

This is what he can do when he cuts in from the left. Yes, it was a West Ham B Team but not sure many keepers would have stopped this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOWq2DPWHwQ

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:02 pm
by boatshed bill
Lots of those goals were virtually identical (only watched about 1/3 of the video)
We will be loaded with left-sided players, but he'd be the best right-footed one.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:05 pm
by ecc
Sorry can't edit above post. Meant to say:

"MO will almost certainly speak English as from my experience most people of his age in Croatia do (to varying extents, of course)."

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:13 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Orsic looks absolutely class on YouTube videos. Probably one of the best I’ve seen - and it’s not like they are videos of him in this “mikey mouse” league, they are in Europe against some big teams.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:21 pm
by BabylonClaret
ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:59 pm
Or Or Orsic's magic
You Know
Never believe its not Scholes
Genius but sadly not si.ple/fast enough for us

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:23 pm
by Mala591
Left midfield/left sided winger seems to be his best position by far.

So, if he does sign, will he play left midfield?

——————Cornet————New CF
Orsic——Westwood——Brownhill——McNeil

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:35 pm
by Slurpy
Could Orsic be signed as the striker we need or to fufill the wing spot we thought Cornet was going to play

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:36 pm
by Slurpy
I'd rather we were after a Ramsey/Barkley/Alli to play behind Cornet

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:39 pm
by Devils_Advocate
With us needing wins if we sign Orsic I can see us playing this kind of formation

-----------------Pope
Roberts--Tarks---Mee--Taylor
------------Westwood---McNeil
------------Brownhill----Orsic
---------------------------Cornet
------------Jay-Rod

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:40 pm
by Elizabeth
Slurpy wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:36 pm
I'd rather we were after a Ramsey/Barkley/Alli to play behind Cornet
All the players you have mentioned no longer have the motivation our club need .
Just look at the number of films you have watched lately with big names from the past . They are usually rubbish.
We are not a charity !

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:44 pm
by Blyclaret
Those players u have mentioned are exactly the players
We dont need. Over paid has-beens

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:53 pm
by Mala591
———————New CF
———Orsic————————Cornet
McNeil———Westwood———Brownhill

We could maybe try 4-3-2-1 (usual back four and goalkeeper)

A good centre forward supported by Orsic and Cornet would certainly score goals!

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:56 pm
by Spijed
Are we still looking for a striker, or likely to play Cornet up front?

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:58 pm
by boatshed bill
We could never afford Ramsey (already too old anyhow), Barkley or Alli, and the only reason they might be for sale is because they are not up to standard.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:01 am
by welsbyswife
I love how all the tactical geniuses start debating whether to play the lad out of his natural position. He's not even signed yet and they haven't seen him play in the flesh but they are already slotting him in in various positions and turning Dwight into a No.10. Football manager stuff.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:02 am
by Spijed
boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:58 pm
We could never afford Ramsey (already too old anyhow)
Ramsey is younger than Trippier who isn't considered too old.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:03 am
by Elizabeth
Trippier has a better injury record

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:51 am
by MrVmax
Personally I would be ecstatic if we somehow got Dele. Apparently a superb attitude, first in last out at training, just that his confidence is low. I think a change of scenery from Spurs would do him the world of good. A very different player to what we currently have. Orsic looks some player as well

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:05 am
by boatshed bill
Spijed wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:02 am
Ramsey is younger than Trippier who isn't considered too old.
I didn't realise we were signing Trippier.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:09 am
by claretonthecoast1882
The aged 30 phobia rises again

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:20 am
by boatshed bill
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:09 am
The aged 30 phobia rises again
Not a phobia.
We have plenty 30+ year olds already.
We all see that we need some younger players, so paying what would surely be a very high price for someone like Ramsey doesn't address it.
TBH,I doubt we could meet his demands anyjhow.

Spijed does one of his weird comparisons (Trippier), but I think Roberts is a better signing for us.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:49 am
by RHansburyEsq
Someone has probably already pointed this out but looks from the YouTube clips like he wears 99 for DZ. Him and Cornet in the same side :shock:

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:16 am
by Spijed
boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:20 am
Not a phobia.
We have plenty 30+ year olds already.
We all see that we need some younger players, so paying what would surely be a very high price for someone like Ramsey doesn't address it.
TBH,I doubt we could meet his demands anyjhow.

Spijed does one of his weird comparisons (Trippier), but I think Roberts is a better signing for us.
You said Ramsey is too old. How can he be too old when other clubs are signing older players who would be deemed good signings for us?

FWIW, if Ramsey could get back to his best (who knows if he can) he's head and shoulders above anything our relegation rivals have.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:43 am
by ClaretPete001
Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm
If we can sign what we need for less than we sell that’s a good model.
We need a striker to score double digits every season because that is what keeps teams like us in the Premiership.

Man City maybe able to retain possession enough to allow midfielders to score but we won't. A free flowing midfielder may disrupt the press and the banks of four.

Cornet has been a revelation but he won't be the first person to start with a bang and then go back to something approaching normality. Wingers do not score 6 in 10 in the Premiership over a sustained period. In fact, that kind of scoring ratio is Harry Kane level when he is playing for a top 6 club.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:45 am
by boatshed bill
Spijed wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:16 am
You said Ramsey is too old. How can he be too old when other clubs are signing older players who would be deemed good signings for us?

FWIW, if Ramsey could get back to his best (who knows if he can) he's head and shoulders above anything our relegation rivals have.
If we could get him on a one year deal then fair enough.
But that is in the world of make believe.
In the real world he'd be looking for (I guess) 3 years at a very high wage.
Whatever he might be (apparently "head and shoulders" above....) he is not the future.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:53 am
by ClaretPete001
boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:45 am
If we could get him on a one year deal then fair enough.
But that is in the world of make believe.
In the real world he'd be looking for (I guess) 3 years at a very high wage.
Whatever he might be (apparently "head and shoulders" above....) he is not the future.
Agreed - Is Arron Ramsey, Delli Alli or Barkley going to work tirelessly for 90 minutes in a team that has 25 per cent possession? Pressing in banks of four and squeezing space in our own third of the pitch?

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:56 am
by RVclaret
ClaretPete001 wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:53 am
Agreed - Is Arron Ramsey, Delli Alli or Barkley going to work tirelessly for 90 minutes in a team that has 25 per cent possession? Pressing in banks of four and squeezing space in our own third of the pitch?
Ramsey does this for Wales to be fair.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:03 am
by boatshed bill
We need to be realistic in who we can afford, and will we get value for money?
The 3 mentioned are good footballers no doubt, but it's not that easy when the club is in debt and likely to get relegated.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:24 am
by ClaretPete001
RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:56 am
Ramsey does this for Wales to be fair.
I suppose of the three he would be the best bet but not sure that investing in an expensive contract for an injury prone 31 year old who has played for Juventus and Arsenal is going to be a better investment than Brownhill, Cork or Westwood when we have three strikers who have barely scored in 2 years.

I hate labouring this point because I think both are decent players but it is a fact.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:28 am
by AlargeClaret
MrVmax wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:51 am
Personally I would be ecstatic if we somehow got Dele. Apparently a superb attitude, first in last out at training, just that his confidence is low. I think a change of scenery from Spurs would do him the world of good. A very different player to what we currently have. Orsic looks some player as well
You may be joking re: Dele Ali , though in the Spurs documentary with Jose , he was very publicly slating Adele’s attitude in training . That aside ( though highly unlikely) he be a brilliant signing

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:11 pm
by ClaretPete001
AlargeClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:28 am
You may be joking re: Dele Ali , though in the Spurs documentary with Jose , he was very publicly slating Adele’s attitude in training . That aside ( though highly unlikely) he be a brilliant signing
Quite, and the probably the reason why she had to cancel all those gigs in Las Vegas.

My honest opinion on Adele is that she can get around the pitches, handle the high notes but she's never going to take a whack from a big centre half.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:29 pm
by CoolClaret
He’s proper well good like

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:39 pm
by AlargeClaret
ClaretPete001 wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:11 pm
Quite, and the probably the reason why she had to cancel all those gigs in Las Vegas.

My honest opinion on Adele is that she can get around the pitches, handle the high notes but she's never going to take a whack from a big centre half.
:lol: I kept altering auto spell too ! Though if she can do a job ..

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:31 pm
by Targetman
ClaretPete001 wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:11 pm
Quite, and the probably the reason why she had to cancel all those gigs in Las Vegas.

My honest opinion on Adele is that she can get around the pitches, handle the high notes but she's never going to take a whack from a big centre half.

Thats not what I've heard! 😀

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:38 pm
by superdimitri
Does he score any goals that aren't the top right corner?
Wikipedia already saying he's signed :lol:

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:43 pm
by Bosscat
superdimitri wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:38 pm
Does he score any goals that aren't the top right corner?
Wikipedia already saying he's signed :lol:
So it does 🙄
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Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:06 pm
by longsidetrumpet
Anyone know why Orsic wears 99?

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:25 pm
by ChrisG
longsidetrumpet wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:06 pm
Anyone know why Orsic wears 99?
He really likes red balloons

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:29 am
by ClaretMov
longsidetrumpet wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:06 pm
Anyone know why Orsic wears 99?
I believe his clubs shirt printing machine has hiccups

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:23 am
by todclaret
Reports on twitter that the deal has fallen through

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:25 am
by claptrappers_union
What a blow.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:26 am
by claptrappers_union
Signed a new deal with his club apparently

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:39 am
by Burnley1989
He’s Sh!t

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:44 am
by boatshed bill
Dodged a bullet there

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:18 am
by Bosscat
Anyone else think he has used us to get a better deal with Dinamo

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:19 am
by Jakubclaret
Bosscat wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:18 am
Anyone else think he has used us to get a better deal with Dinamo
Yes smacks of albrighton hope we haven’t put all our eggs in 1 basket.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:21 am
by IanMcL
Another day, another player.

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:21 am
by jrgbfc
It's hope that kills you!

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:37 am
by Pearcey
He’s rubbish. Never wanted him anyway! :-D

Re: How good is Orsic

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:40 am
by RalphCoatesComb
Pearcey wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:37 am
He’s rubbish. Never wanted him anyway! :-D
:lol: :lol: :lol: