Mason Greenwood

[Rumbletonk]

If any subject should be above the tit for tat argument on this forum, this is it

[Damo]

What a world we live in when a victim of crime posts the evidence on social media rather than reporting it to the police.

I hope that doing so doesn't impact on the legal proceedings.

What a world we live in when people see a story like this and their first thoughts are that the victim didn't handle it particularly well

[Milltown1882]

He should be viewed, and dealt with the same as any other domestic violence abuser. Disgusting and hope it gets dealt with properly regardless of what his profession is.

[Milltown1882]

He has now been arrested on suspicion of rape and assault and is in custody.

[Murger]

Let's hope he can't pay his way out of it.

[Jakubclaret]

What a world we live in when people see a story like this and their first thoughts are that the victim didn't handle it particularly well

He’s right though, she’s shot herself in the foot like another poster said now it’s in the public domain the case will be compromised had she done things differently more hush hush she would have probably got the justice she deserved, I guess in the heat of the moment smart thinking doesn’t factor.

[Murger]

He’s right though, she’s shot herself in the foot like another poster said now it’s in the public domain the case will be compromised had she done things differently more hush hush she would have probably got the justice she deserved, I guess in the heat of the moment smart thinking doesn’t factor.

Well no club will touch him now. He's finished as a top flight footballer.

[Pearcey]

He has now been arrested on suspicion of rape and assault and is in custody.

Where have you seen that?

[Jakubclaret]

Well no club will touch him now. He's finished as a top flight footballer.

I don’t believe that not straightaway but things will die down & less people will be bothered about him & more forgiving especially if he shows remorse.

[Milltown1882]

Where have you seen that?

GMP Police statement

[Pearcey]

GMP Police statement

Just had the sky news notification. Good!!

[Milltown1882]

Where have you seen that?

[Bosscat]

All over BBC news too

[pushpinpussy]

can i be the first to say that i hope harriet robson is ok.

[jedi_master]

I just hope his club don’t pay off the lass to make this go away.

I find it absolutely incredible that is ever allowed to happen to save people from prison, it’s a joke.

[Lowbankclaret]

I have been watching this thread most of the day and not commented till now.
My current partner was in a really violent relationship for about 10 years. Taken to hospital on several occasions and didn’t know a way out. She was on a Police special list , don’t know it’s name and not asking her. But when the number came up on 999, the police just respond. Read the comments about just leave but she had no where to go and no one she could turn to for help. We had known each other from being teenagers, I help get her out of the situation and we then got together.

On the social media issue, when I did jury service I sat on the case of the guy who looked like the guy from Friends. He did a spoof video of the event which went viral. The defence used that video in his trial to try to suggest it might influence the Jury. His defence lawyers will do the same, should it go to trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-49361965

[ClaretTony]

I just hope his club don’t pay off the lass to make this go away.

I find it absolutely incredible that is ever allowed to happen to save people from prison, it’s a joke.

I think, in fairness, his club has done everything expected of it today.

[jedi_master]

I think, in fairness, his club has done everything expected of it today.

Yes quite agree thus far.

[bfcjg]

What a harrowing episode,words fail me. How can anyone treat another human being like that.

[Lowbankclaret]

Just to add, we had lost touch until she friended me on Facebook, within weeks I had got her away from the situation, for people wondering why I didn’t do it earlier.

[BurningBeard]

...I did it to improve my CV.

WTAF?

[Lowbankclaret]

I think, in fairness, his club has done everything expected of it today.

Agreed, moved quickly and did the right things. We must however believe in Innocent till proven guilty.

[Jakubclaret]

WTAF?

It’s just another string to the bow & I enjoyed meeting different people & enjoyed the experience despite not receiving any money for it, it feels good doing something without expecting anything back in return, it’s very humbling I’d recommend it.

[RVclaret]

This is a slightly odd statement from the victims father, don’t you think?

[CoolClaret]

This is a slightly odd statement from the victims father, don’t you think?

Extremely odd - ‘phone was hacked’ is such nonsense as well.

It reads as though he’s more bothered about it getting out to the public that it actually happening!

[Burnley1989]

This is a slightly odd statement from the victims father, don’t you think?

It is very odd, I’ve daughters and I know my statement wouldn’t have sounded very professional at all so I’d have kept quiet

[jedi_master]

Smacks of a bloke who’s seeing his golden goose flying away. Unbelievable. No condemnation of Greenwood, no real concern about his daughter. I struggle to believe what I’ve just read.

Disgusting that a father would think about money when this stuff has happened to his daughter. If this was my daughter I think I’d be the next person arrested by the Police for what I’d do.

[Jakubclaret]

Smacks of a bloke who’s seeing his golden goose flying away. Unbelievable. No condemnation of Greenwood, no real concern about his daughter. I struggle to believe what I’ve just read.

Disgusting that a father would think about money when this stuff has happened to his daughter. If this was my daughter I think I’d be the next person arrested by the Police for what I’d do.

Why is he thinking about money? He’s probably acting cool because if his daughter still holds feelings for greenwood there’s every chance of them getting back together when the dust settles, he’s probably in a really awkward position.

[Milltown1882]

Why is he thinking about money? He’s probably acting cool because if his daughter still holds feelings for greenwood there’s every chance of them getting back together when the dust settles, he’s probably in a really awkward position.

He said her phone was hacked which makes it look like it wasn’t her that posted it. Frankly ridiculous statement.

[HahaYeah]

"We have known him since the under 21s"

[alf_resco]

Ched Evans, Lee Hughes and the ex-Plymouth (?) keeper returned at other clubs but in this day and age, can anyone realistically see Greenwood pulling another shirt on after this, let alone an MUFC one ?

[jedi_master]

Why is he thinking about money? He’s probably acting cool because if his daughter still holds feelings for greenwood there’s every chance of them getting back together when the dust settles, he’s probably in a really awkward position.

It’s not an awkward position. It’s his daughter - she’s black and blue and the audio clip implies something else that I won’t say happening to her too.

It’s very simple what to say when asked for a quote about this ‘man’ and what he has done to his daughter:

“I’m so sad for my daughter, I wish she’d told us sooner - I’m glad the thug is arrested and that he isn’t anywhere where he can lay his hands on anyone else. I would like to say far more about Greenwood but fear I would myself be arrested for threatening behaviour and provocation - I leave all matters to the Police and I am glad to see his club have suspended him” - Or…some such.

I certainly wouldn’t be saying “They were very much in love, it’s so hard as we’ve followed him since he was in the Under 21’s” etc etc.
I realise you’re trying to build a bit of a profile on here as someone who goes against the grain, but surely you can see the obviousness within the fathers response?

[Milltown1882]

It’s not an awkward position. It’s his daughter - she’s black and blue and the audio clip implies something else that I won’t say happening to her too.

It’s very simple what to say when asked for a quote about this ‘man’ and what he has done to his daughter:

“I’m so sad for my daughter, I wish she’d told us sooner - I’m glad the thug is arrested and that he isn’t anywhere where he can lay his hands on anyone else. I would like to say far more about Greenwood but fear I would myself be arrested for threatening behaviour and provocation - I leave all matters to the Police and I am glad to see his club have suspended him” - Or…some such.

I certainly wouldn’t be saying “They were very much in love, it’s so hard as we’ve followed him since he was in the Under 21’s” etc etc.
I realise you’re trying to build a bit of a profile on here as someone who goes against the grain, but surely you can see the obviousness within the fathers response?

Bear in mind they’ve known each other since school. Under 21s doesn’t wash at all. Meal ticket.

[Jakubclaret]

It’s not an awkward position. It’s his daughter - she’s black and blue and the audio clip implies something else that I won’t say happening to her too.

It’s very simple what to say when asked for a quote about this ‘man’ and what he has done to his daughter:

“I’m so sad for my daughter, I wish she’d told us sooner - I’m glad the thug is arrested and that he isn’t anywhere where he can lay his hands on anyone else. I would like to say far more about Greenwood but fear I would myself be arrested for threatening behaviour and provocation - I leave all matters to the Police and I am glad to see his club have suspended him” - Or…some such.

I certainly wouldn’t be saying “They were very much in love, it’s so hard as we’ve followed him since he was in the Under 21’s” etc etc.
I realise you’re trying to build a bit of a profile on here as someone who goes against the grain, but surely you can see the obviousness within the fathers response?

I honestly don’t know, I’m not going against any grain or building any profile up, I see it as a man who wants to play safe because there’s a possibility that they could become an item again & he doesn’t want to alienate greenwood because his daughter will probably have a good life with the rich trappings greenwood can offer thus perhaps benefiting himself also & holds some sort of faith in greenwood turning over a new leaf, he knows him better than any of us lot, maybe he’s a placid man & it’s not in his nature to be angry.

[boatshed bill]

Ched Evans, Lee Hughes and the ex-Plymouth (?) keeper returned at other clubs but in this day and age, can anyone realistically see Greenwood pulling another shirt on after this, let alone an MUFC one ?

Yes, I can.
Football has long since lost its "moral compass", as they say.

[Milltown1882]

I honestly don’t know, I’m not going against any grain or building any profile up, I see it as a man who wants to play safe because there’s a possibility that they could become an item again & he doesn’t want to alienate greenwood because his daughter will probably have a good life with the rich trappings greenwood can offer thus perhaps benefiting himself also & holds some sort of faith in greenwood turning over a new leaf, he knows him better than any of us lot, maybe he’s a placid man & it’s not in his nature to be angry.

Scary comment. Not because of what you’ve said but the fact that’s probably the reality.

[alf_resco]

maybe he’s a placid man & it’s not in his nature to be angry.

Would be quite funny if the situation wasn't so sad and depressing.

[jedi_master]

I honestly don’t know, I’m not going against any grain or building any profile up, I see it as a man who wants to play safe because there’s a possibility that they could become an item again & he doesn’t want to alienate greenwood because his daughter will probably have a good life with the rich trappings greenwood can offer thus perhaps benefiting himself also & holds some sort of faith in greenwood turning over a new leaf, he knows him better than any of us lot, maybe he’s a placid man & it’s not in his nature to be angry.

Yeah, so as I said - smacks of a man who can see his golden goose flying away.

[Jamesy]

Ched Evans, Lee Hughes and the ex-Plymouth (?) keeper returned at other clubs but in this day and age, can anyone realistically see Greenwood pulling another shirt on after this, let alone an MUFC one ?

I would exercise caution when mentioning Ched Evans. He was proved innocent.

[Lowbankclaret]

As a dad, I would not be worried about the golden goose flying away, I would be clipping its wings.

[PadihamThickNeck]

Only silverware Mason Greenwood will be touching this season…

[timshorts]

Ched Evans, Lee Hughes and the ex-Plymouth (?) keeper returned at other clubs but in this day and age, can anyone realistically see Greenwood pulling another shirt on after this, let alone an MUFC one ?

The circumstances in the ched Evans case were so far from similar fact to this, I don't think that they can be or should be compared.

[Damo]

I honestly don’t know, I’m not going against any grain or building any profile up, I see it as a man who wants to play safe because there’s a possibility that they could become an item again & he doesn’t want to alienate greenwood because his daughter will probably have a good life with the rich trappings greenwood can offer thus perhaps benefiting himself also & holds some sort of faith in greenwood turning over a new leaf, he knows him better than any of us lot, maybe he’s a placid man & it’s not in his nature to be angry.

I hope you don't have a daughter. Christ on a bike

[Jamesy]

The circumstances in the ched Evans case were so far from similar fact to this, I don't think that they can be or should be compared.

Exactly. That’s what I was alluding to.

[clarethomer]

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Looks like he has been arrested

[Socrates]

Lot of people speculating wildly about what could be a pretty horrific subject for any number of people involved without knowing anything of what happened, the law or the feelings/pain involved.

Real ugly thread is this.

[Milltown1882]

Lot of people speculating wildly about what could be a pretty horrific subject for any number of people involved without knowing anything of what happened, the law or the feelings/pain involved.

Real ugly thread is this.

another scary comment.

[PeterWilton]

Lot of people speculating wildly about what could be a pretty horrific subject for any number of people involved without knowing anything of what happened, the law or the feelings/pain involved.

Real ugly thread is this.

Some of us have heard the recording, seen the pictures and know who is alleged to have perpetrated the apparent crimes. I admit there is *some* speculation in that I am believing the accuser but I'm going to challenge you on your use of "wild" to describe that speculation.

[ClaretAL]

Ok although it has tentacles in to football, the way this thread is going its getting to a point that can hurt many who have been in a similar situation. So I would suggest stick to the facts rather than speculation or lock the thread, either way please keep others who have been connected to this hell in mind

[Socrates]

Some of us have heard the recording, seen the pictures and know who is alleged to have perpetrated the apparent crimes. I admit there is *some* speculation in that I am believing the accuser but I'm going to challenge you on your use of "wild" to describe that speculation.

By wild speculation I’m talking about accusations against her Dad, some victim shaming, people questioning the alleged victims conduct …… that stuff knocks me sick.