Mason Greenwood
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Seems he has been re arrested for breaching bail terms. The terms he has broke...seeing his ex gf who reported him, and she was the one who has gone back to him.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Where do I say it's her fault? This is a football forum is it not, and this is relevant to football is it not
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Are you arguing with yourself?
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Seems so ha ha, should have quoted their reply.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
This lad really doesn't help himself does he whatever the reasons he's daft to breach bail conditions.
Pity he seems to be going off the rails as there is a talented player in there when he focuses on his footy.
Pity he seems to be going off the rails as there is a talented player in there when he focuses on his footy.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
I saw the reply Cleveleys, you're not going mad!
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Thanks Potato Head
Re: Mason Greenwood
Give me strength.
Re: Mason Greenwood
Maybe the penny has dropped that she is totally untrustworthy.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Grim. Let justice play out now without speculating.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Mad situation, she has been living with him last few months. The whole thing is just wrong. Her dad's statement at the beginning was shocking. Hopefully justice is served, whatever that be
Re: Mason Greenwood
Getting CPS to charge for controlling and coercive behaviour isn’t that common.
The threshold is high.
To charge someone for such an offence, it is sustained behaviour over a prolonged period with complete control over everything from finances, to what someone can and can’t wear, who they can go out with and where, and who they speak to me. There’ll likely need to be evidence in terms of bank statements, phone records, messages etc.
Appreciate Greenwood hasn’t been convicted yet, but just getting charged for this tells you all you need to know about him.
The threshold is high.
To charge someone for such an offence, it is sustained behaviour over a prolonged period with complete control over everything from finances, to what someone can and can’t wear, who they can go out with and where, and who they speak to me. There’ll likely need to be evidence in terms of bank statements, phone records, messages etc.
Appreciate Greenwood hasn’t been convicted yet, but just getting charged for this tells you all you need to know about him.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Apologies if this is a silly question, but has Greenwood just now been charged with what happened earlier in the year, or is the attempted rape and assault charge issued today brand new?
Re: Mason Greenwood
I still think he will be back playing before you know it. Whether its at united or not i dont know
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Re: Mason Greenwood
I think he’d only been arrested on suspicion previously.distortiondave wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:46 pmApologies if this is a silly question, but has Greenwood just now been charged with what happened earlier in the year, or is the attempted rape and assault charge issued today brand new?
This may be the first time he’s been charged.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
He's been refused bail
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Re: Mason Greenwood
"Do not pass Go and do not collect £200"
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Crazy he's still pocketing £75k a month. I wonder if he is found guilty, whether he'd need to pay that back.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Nah, most likely just have his contract terminated.
Wonder if Utd will hold his registration and then try to reclaim money like Chelsea did with Mutu after his failed drugs test.
Wonder if Utd will hold his registration and then try to reclaim money like Chelsea did with Mutu after his failed drugs test.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Another "coercion" case .. hopefully the CPS can find someone with a brain to prosecute this time?
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Sorry yes of course a week. He'll have a decent tuck shop if he is found guilty.Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:47 pm£75k a week.
The money him and Mendy must’ve made during both processes is obscene.
Re: Mason Greenwood
That sounds unlikely if convicted. Ched Evans got a huge amount of stick when he came back from all and sundry and the two cases were markedly different. Evans conviction always looked suspect, and that was how it was proved.
This one is gross. That recording that was on here for a little while, if admissible (and I'm not sure whether that is the case or not) is likely to be pretty convincing - both to a jury and to a future employer that the guy is at best avoided like the plague.
Re: Mason Greenwood
Uniteds lawyers will be all over this to avoid bringing the club into disrepute too i guess
He could walk free. He might not.
He could walk free. He might not.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
United lawyers wil be no where near this from his perspective.
They will however be thinking of kicking him into the long grass, as in sacked.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
TsarBomba wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:41 pmGetting CPS to charge for controlling and coercive behaviour isn’t that common.
The threshold is high.
To charge someone for such an offence, it is sustained behaviour over a prolonged period with complete control over everything from finances, to what someone can and can’t wear, who they can go out with and where.
Very much so.
I've worked with victims of this type of behaviour and there's still massive resistance to prosecution throughout the police/cps. Most of the cases I've known have been supported by friendship networks, and various agencies other than the police.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Is it just me who thought that arriving for your court hearing in a Nike hoodie with matching jogging bottoms isn't the best look? Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
It's usually the police who struggle with evidence, not CPS.tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:45 pmAnother "coercion" case .. hopefully the CPS can find someone with a brain to prosecute this time?
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Re: Mason Greenwood
He’s been in custody since Saturday, I doubt they let him go home to get changed.welsbyswife wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:54 pmIs it just me who thought that arriving for your court hearing in a Nike hoodie with matching jogging bottoms isn't the best look? Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
He's clearly not "the brightest candle on the cake"
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Re: Mason Greenwood
No doubt his legal team will have a JIC in midweek and get him bail then. MG was unfortunate enough to be in front of the toughest DJ in the North West. He should be out on bail by Wednesday or Thursday with even more onerous conditions
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Re: Mason Greenwood
And there he goes…
He’ll never see a cell again.
Hey PPP, how can we have tough judges and other types? Surely there are criteria to meet before decisions are made? I would’ve thought the guidelines are straightforward to follow.
He’ll never see a cell again.
Hey PPP, how can we have tough judges and other types? Surely there are criteria to meet before decisions are made? I would’ve thought the guidelines are straightforward to follow.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Judges do have guidelines to follow but the system for sentencing is immensely complicated so that’s why there are inconsistencies. However, it comes down to the same basic principles - harm and culpability, for example, how serious the offence is by measuring the harm done and the culpability of the offender. However, there are a great deal of aggravating and mitigating factors that also need to be taken into account.
This will then set out the range of any sentence. Depending on the category of seriousness, a sentence could range from an absolute/ conditional discharge up to a custodial sentence.
The Judge therefore makes that determination after hearing from both Prosecutor and Defence.
Regarding bail applications you always find that some DJ’s don’t take any crap and if you have breached your bail, they look at it as “you have had your chance” and remand you. Whilst other Judges are willing to listen to the mitigating reasons behind the breach and are more understanding.
If remanded at the Mags Court, you are allowed to make a Judge in Chambers Bail Application at the Crown Court. The Defence then get time to strengthen their application as they now understand the full reasons behind the Crowns opposition to bail. But the same could be said of the Crowns position as they will get a written application from the defence setting out their position now. If you then go in front of a Judge who is more understanding of the facts, then you have a very good chance of getting them out as in Greenwood's case.
This will then set out the range of any sentence. Depending on the category of seriousness, a sentence could range from an absolute/ conditional discharge up to a custodial sentence.
The Judge therefore makes that determination after hearing from both Prosecutor and Defence.
Regarding bail applications you always find that some DJ’s don’t take any crap and if you have breached your bail, they look at it as “you have had your chance” and remand you. Whilst other Judges are willing to listen to the mitigating reasons behind the breach and are more understanding.
If remanded at the Mags Court, you are allowed to make a Judge in Chambers Bail Application at the Crown Court. The Defence then get time to strengthen their application as they now understand the full reasons behind the Crowns opposition to bail. But the same could be said of the Crowns position as they will get a written application from the defence setting out their position now. If you then go in front of a Judge who is more understanding of the facts, then you have a very good chance of getting them out as in Greenwood's case.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Man Utd forward Mason Greenwood had faced allegations of attempted rape, controlling and coercive behaviour and assault; CPS said: "A combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction."
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Re: Mason Greenwood
I saw the video. He’s repulsive. If I was a female Man Utd fan I’d be disgusted if he ever wore the shirt again.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
No chance United will play him, imagine the backlash.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
So now the charges have been dropped, what does that say?TsarBomba wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:41 pmGetting CPS to charge for controlling and coercive behaviour isn’t that common.
The threshold is high.
To charge someone for such an offence, it is sustained behaviour over a prolonged period with complete control over everything from finances, to what someone can and can’t wear, who they can go out with and where, and who they speak to me. There’ll likely need to be evidence in terms of bank statements, phone records, messages etc.
Appreciate Greenwood hasn’t been convicted yet, but just getting charged for this tells you all you need to know about him.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Now the cps should charge the original complainant with wasting police time and resources
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Why, they've nowt better to do.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
interesting thought, WC. I suspect they will not on the basis of protecting the concept of (alleged) victim protection and safe-space concepts in encouraging women to come forward in the first place. They certainly will weigh heavily the potential of regressing that by charging for wasting police timeWoodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:00 pmNow the cps should charge the original complainant with wasting police time and resources
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Re: Mason Greenwood
A decision to end a case due to a lack of evidence does not mean that an allegation is false. It means that the case does not meet the evidential test which is required to put an allegation before a jury.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:00 pmNow the cps should charge the original complainant with wasting police time and resources
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Re: Mason Greenwood
CPS stuffed without her giving evidencepushpinpussy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:01 pmA decision to end a case due to a lack of evidence does not mean that an allegation is false. It means that the case does not meet the evidential test which is required to put an allegation before a jury.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
Didn't I read somewhere that the Police are leaving the case open. It isn't as if he's been exonerated. From his point of view, that's the sword of Damaclese hanging over his head. I can't see how Utd can justify playing him in the circumstances.pushpinpussy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:01 pmA decision to end a case due to a lack of evidence does not mean that an allegation is false. It means that the case does not meet the evidential test which is required to put an allegation before a jury.
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Re: Mason Greenwood
If there's not evidence now, it kind of suggests there never will be.
Re: Mason Greenwood
Ronaldo had the same story about him and played.
Partey is still playing even though he is currently being accused of the same thing.
The list is long with his talent they will slide him in next season without anyone noticing.
Partey is still playing even though he is currently being accused of the same thing.
The list is long with his talent they will slide him in next season without anyone noticing.