Transfer window rated out of 10

[CombatClaret]

Interesting how this was the most important transfer window for years when really it's going to be this summers one that is.

To be fair, search "important transfer window" and you'll find results going back years. At everyone claims this is the biggest one yet, year after year.

Some will say it's those windows that lead us here, or it's just recency bias.

[Jel]

3.1428571429

[CrosspoolClarets]

5.

We have improved our squad having being worried about weakening it (Tarky) and then being screwed over (Wood).

Some gaps remain but worst thing would have been to fill them with chaff. So many teams do. Who realistically has improved their side? Newcastle probably. Everton possibly (but uncertain). Watford - unsure, signed average players it seems. Norwich - no. Leeds - no. Brentford - maybe but again a risk.

[DCWat]

Interesting how this was the most important transfer window for years when really it's going to be this summers one that is.

No, last summer’s one was the important one - we did better but ultimately didn’t do enough.

The can that’s been kicked for too long has finally ended up down a dead end.

This summer’s is now a massively difficult one - 10 out of contract players (some with options) and others that need moving on. The lauding of the last summer window and views that you shouldn’t recruit more than a few in a window were baffling - not doing so was going to leave us with a far bigger task the next year.

It’s now more likely than not that we will be in the championship when some more sensible spending last summer would have probably kept us well clear of at least three teams in the premier league. Quite what this will do to our club with the way that the buyout has been completed is really concerning.

I’m sure there has been lots of work going on but ultimately we’ve failed, again.

[Buxtonclaret]

4

[Tread Warily]

ZERO.

[CrosspoolClarets]

5.

We have improved our squad having being worried about weakening it (Tarky) and then being screwed over (Wood).

Some gaps remain but worst thing would have been to fill them with chaff. So many teams do. Who realistically has improved their side? Newcastle probably. Everton possibly (but uncertain). Watford - unsure, signed average players it seems. Norwich - no. Leeds - no. Brentford - maybe but again a risk.

Just to add something more to this (cannot edit).

We have made the biggest profit in the world this window on a player using sale price vs deemed market value.
We have bought a player for the joint 14th highest price in the world this window.

Those aren’t failures, even if we go down that cash is useful to strengthen compared to if we went down with Wood (which we were on track to do). It is a brutally tough window - even the likes of Spurs were getting turned over.

[ClaretFelix]

2. Abject performances on the pitch have been followed by abject performance in the recruitment dept.

The club will trot out the line about the January window being difficult, but there have been serious failings by senior staff, and that must include Dyche, in not being able to identify options to overcome what have been clear problems in terms of quality over a number of years.

Bull in the Barne United have had a better window than us in signing Roberto Carlos and Eni Aluko for Christ's sake....

[Elizabeth]

Not really, I'm being sensible.

If the new lad comes in and starts banging goals in that keep us up, does that mean this window was a success or failure?

Technically it's a success if that happens....

Ok but strikes me as more of a PR approach that you are taking than a sensible one.

We so badly needed better service to our strikers and haven’t got it in this window. I have my doubts changing our main striker was the answer but we will now have to see if it was.

[fanzone]

Absolute shambles, the towel has been well and truly thrown in - 1

[CombatClaret]

3/10
We're pretty much where we were at the start of the window. With all the same weakness & issues.

Swapped a striker who didn't want to be here for one who does , but that was an enforced change.

I was hoping for 2 in before the Wood saga. Even just Orsic would have looked good when combined with Wout for Wood. Sound like we got shafted on that one given how far it got.

[KRBFC]

2

1 win all season and a like for like replacement, was there no budget prior to the Wood sale? shocking to think we'd have signed nobody had Wood not been sold. We've ultimately threw in the towel, lets blame Garlick though...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Ok but strikes me as more of a PR approach that you are taking than a sensible one.

We so badly needed better service to our strikers and haven’t got it in this window. I have my doubts changing our main striker was the answer but we will now have to see if it was.

I can't see how anyone can judge it accurately until the season has finished, that's all, hence why I'm waiting until the end of the season.
On paper it doesn't look great, I'll accept that.

[Middle-agedClaret]

3

[KRBFC]

I have to wonder why the thread has actually been created?

The facts are these... the last two windows have seen movement by us. We didn't get Orsic, but by all accounts it was close and we had done everything we possibly could to get him.

Garlick did nothing whatsoever for far too long. He's to blame for our current predicament, not Pace or ALK. At least not yet they aren't. I see people just waiting to jump all over them, almost as if they can't wait. We have been diabolically inept in the market for such a long time before the current board brought in Cornet, Roberts, Collins and Weghorst, and Garlick is getting an easy ride off some on here, but if we do end up relegated, it'll be his inaction to blame. We 'lost' Wood and that was impossible for the board to counter, so anyone whinging about selling Wood and bringing in Weghorst at half the fee really is clutching at straws with regards to blaming the board for using the money to settle loans.

We might not like the model used to 'purchase' the club, but Garlick the messiah sanctioned it and walked away with a pocketful, and we now have a board who at least are trying to get players in. Measuring ALK against Garlick is pointless.... if they bring in a tea lady they have already improved upon the mess left by greedy ********.

Pace and ALK deserve to be given a fair crack of the whip, but it seems there are plenty who want to write them off BEFORE they get it as wrong as Garlick clearly did.

It's a 5 btw.

You're hammering Garlick for the same thing ALK have done.

Garlick also had deals pulled at the last minute.

lack of investment from Garlick? Last January we signed 0 players, this window 1 in 1 out and +£13m in profit.

Pace and ALK have had 3 windows, a fair while to address problems, these problems still haven't been addressed in the most desperate situation, 1 win all season and bottom of the league.

The Fact is, ALK are being judged on results, they've failed here, even Garlick was linked with Ziyech and Kalvin Phillips btw.

[leelad]

Assuming that's it now on incoming signings/loans, I am going to score this window as a 5. We swopped a striker who didn't want to be here with one that looks like he is up for the challenge (credit to him) and we made a profit as well on Wood's sale. That's the Burnley way. We have kept hold of Tarkowski and McNeil which goes a long way to squad morale. But we desperately need a centre midfielder of class, someone to give us options and to offer a different style of play to the one I think we will see a lot of long balls up to Weghorst for him to control. I hope his time at Burnley is a success and he scores lots of goals, but I just think we have come up short here again on what we needed at the beginning of the year and at the start of the season. But I'm a optimist and we have got 20 games to go. And they are all important. We have to trust in the squad now and hope they can pull the Great Escape off.

[JohnDearyMe]

1/10

I've lots of respect for Cork and Westwood given the great service they've provided but to not bring in a new central midfielder verges on the criminal.

We're putting all our hopes on our new striker hitting the ground running and on Cornet staying fit. He's already had two spells out and given the fixture congestion we have i can't see him being an ever present

[Nonayforever]

I'm giving it a 1.
We didn't actually need to improve the squad, just add to it.
A young ( 23 or 24 Yr old) lad with a bit of speed to replace Cork or JBG off the bench for 10 or 15mins at the end of the game would have been sufficient.

[Top Claret]

Really find it hard to score points. What I wiii say though is that the club did a great piece of business in selling Wood for 25 million and recruiting a Dutch international for half his price

January is a tough window with little buisness being done and anyone thinking that we were going to solve all our problems in this window are living in fantasy land.

[morpheus2]

Cheers mate I knew they would be shocking. I think Westwood has 1 from open play against Brentford. The rest must be corners.

Diabolical stats.

Yes, true, what the stats show is absolutely diabolical...

Maybe those stats would look a little less abysmal had Wood converted some of those many absolute sitters he missed? Poor finishing has exagerated slightly those stats a tad.

[ClaretPete001]

I'm going to give it a 5 on the basis that finding an international striker to replace Wood was a good days work albeit you have to wonder why a side fourth from the bottom wants to lose its best striker.

Like CT I think it was fortuitous rather than good planning.

In truth, I'm hopeful Cornet and WW can change things but.....

Narrrr I can't be bothered saying it...!

[morpheus2]

3.1428571429

No idea why but this rating made my mouth water

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Yes, true, what the stats show is absolutely diabolical...

Maybe those stats would look a little less abysmal had Wood converted some of those many absolute sitters he missed? Poor finishing has exagerated slightly those stats a tad.

Chris wood was awful this season . But so has the midfield. Where are the goals from midfield ??? We are truly shocking going forward. Cornet aside we’ve looked completely lost and like a league 1 team.

Here’s to Dyche performing miracles …again

[Wile E Coyote]

hard to be critical because this is where we are as a club. Im certain those involved in these dealing want the best for the team, and with that in mind doubtless they pulled out as many stops as possible to make things happen.

[randomclaret2]

hard to be critical because this is where we are as a club. Im certain those involved in these dealing want the best for the team, and with that in mind doubtless they pulled out as many stops as possible to make things happen.

Alan ?

[boatshed bill]

You're hammering Garlick for the same thing ALK have done.

Garlick also had deals pulled at the last minute.

lack of investment from Garlick? Last January we signed 0 players, this window 1 in 1 out and +£13m in profit.

Pace and ALK have had 3 windows, a fair while to address problems, these problems still haven't been addressed in the most desperate situation, 1 win all season and bottom of the league.

The Fact is, ALK are being judged on results, they've failed here, even Garlick was linked with Ziyech and Kalvin Phillips btw.

I think some fans are not prepared to understand how difficult, if indeed possible, it is for us to compete financially at our current level.

[ClaretPete001]

I think some fans are not prepared to understand how difficult, if indeed possible, it is for us to compete financially at our current level.

If that were true Bill how did we have £80 million quid in the bank at the end of 19/20?

[Paddy1882]

5 for me. Selling a 30 year old striker for £25million and signing a younger replacement for less than half the price is exactly the kind of business we should be doing going forward. I’m a bit disappointed simply because I thought we’d get Orsic and I was excited to see how that would work with Dwight, cornet and VW I thought that sounded a decent threat to other teams but it wasn’t to be. We’ve got 20 games left, there’s no uncertainty now Sean knows what he’s got to work with it’s just whether he can work his magic…. Time will tell.

[HandforthClaret]

5/10

[BabylonClaret]

Lost our best striker. Bought a replacement who might be as good or even a bit better. Made a profit. Failed to deliver on expectations.

I'm giving it a 2 given we don't seem to have a clear strategy this January. Chasing Barkley again when we are bottom of the league? R worse. Chasing Ramsey who's on more than what we paid for most of our squad?

Who's idea was that?

Mental

[claretandbluesky]

Did anything change ?

[jojomk1]

3.1428571429

In the sky

[claretandbluesky]

Think we need to ban transfer window threads. Never in the annals of human history has so little been achieved by such effort by so many.

[Vegas Claret]

can you imagine if we made a profit in this window and somehow stayed up at the expense of Newcastle ?!!!

[claretandbluesky]

But we didn’t make a profit, it just serviced a debt.

[KRBFC]

I think some fans are not prepared to understand how difficult, if indeed possible, it is for us to compete financially at our current level.

You're wrong, if we can't compete in the market, we're shopping in the wrong market. There was absolutely nothing stopping us from signing more players, excuses don't wash. You don't think players in the league below would love the opportunity to play in the EPL and double their wages? young players in South America dream of the EPL.

The only part when competing with other PL clubs is relevant is when another PL team is chasing the same player, go look at signings in the PL, how many were we competing for? we aren't in competition for a player signature if other PL clubs aren't interested.

French clubs are broke, Lauriente was linked, why was he not signed? we weren't competing with any other PL club for him?

[KRBFC]

Todd Cantwell went on loan to Bournemouth, out of contract in the summer, try telling me he's not a better option than Lennon/JBG..... slap £10m on the table and he's here right now

[Ric_C]

Bournemouth signed 4 players today, whereas we couldn't find 2 players in the whole of football in a MONTH that are better than Jack Cork and JBG who want to play for us. Pretty dismal tbh

Surely we could have found a couple of loans at least?

I'd rate it as a 4/10 only because I thing Weghorst will be a big hit, and finding a decent striker is one of the hardest positions to fill.

[KRBFC]

Jason Knight, we gonna pretend he'd rather stay at Derby than play for Burnley? aye alright

[Jakubclaret]

Some people say we made an effort because we were after Ramsey & a few other names but it’s daft really when you can’t realistically afford them, it’s pointless trying you are never going to succeed in bringing them here on that basis I don’t see how any credit can be attached for attempting something that’s clearly unachievable.

[fungus_the_bogeyman]

4.

Bitterly disappointing. Replaced our wantaway striker with a (hopefully) better one, but we needed at least two or three in just to be competitive. Good links to some players who would have undoubtedly improved us, but it’s no good if those links don’t come to fruition. Once again (for the umpteenth transfer window in a row) we’ve been found out to have no plan B. Quite clearly the scouting/recruitment system still needs some work.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Agree with frustration about us not filling the weaker areas but unless I’m mistaken of all our possible targets only Ramsey went elsewhere. Orsic, Lauriente, Fofana, Barkley, Origi, Benteke, Fulgini. All stayed put. Not much happened on one level, for anyone.

One way of looking at the window is the market value of players signed, per transfermarkt.co.uk

Norwich - £0
Watford - £19m (but none >£5m)
Burnley - £18m
Newcastle - £66m (but Wood the only player ahead of defensive midfield)
Southampton - £0
Leeds - £0
Leicester - £0
Everton - £49m
Palace - £5m
Brentford - £14m
Brighton - £21m
Wolves - £5m

Of that lot (main rivals) not a lot has gone on apart from at Everton and Newcastle. Much will depend on whether Newcastle’s defenders are better than the last lot or if Wood regains form. Otherwise it is as we were more or less.

[NewClaret]

4

+1 for selling Wood for £27m, who I thought needed to be benched anyway.

+1 for not selling Tarks.

+ 2 for signing Wout. A major upgrade on Wood albeit he needs to prove that now.

Otherwise, very poor. I suspect we were done over on (or by) Orsic but that’s no excuse. We’ve ended a window we needed to strengthen RW and CM without doing so and ~£15m in the bank. That’s Gatlick-esque.

I’m also disappointed that we didn’t have some real back-up options like Wallace/Knight/Cantwell that I don’t think come in & immediately improve us (ie what we needed) but would’ve given me some comfort that we have a squad full of good Championship players to take us up.

The positives being Pace seemed to put a lot of effort in to get deals done and we’re looking much further afield.

Also worth noting I don’t think any teams have had a great window. Even Newcastle have signed a lot of mediocrity compared to what I was expecting them to do. And Arsenal have given their best striker away on a free!!!!

No point whinging about it though. We are Burnley and need to move on and get behind the lads.

[Oshkoshclaret]

6.

25 million for Wood is the best piece of transfer business I can ever remember. And I remember we got 1.2 million for Wayne Thomas.

And I’m pretty optimistic that Weghorst will be an upgrade.

[nyclaret]

Todd Cantwell went on loan to Bournemouth, out of contract in the summer, try telling me he's not a better option than Lennon/JBG..... slap £10m on the table and he's here right now

You’d find better players than Lennon/JBG in League One.

[RVclaret]

Ashley Barnes will be like a new signing when he returns soon. Is he back on the grass?

[NottsClaret]

But we didn’t make a profit, it just serviced a debt.

Important to remember this. That £13m profit from this window some are clinging to.. that’s already gone. As will whatever we get for Pope and Cornet in 5 months time. That’s how leveraged buyouts work, sell assets to service debt. Growing income was far fetched for us in the Prem, it’s ludicrous to even think it in the football league.

So even less than usual, there’s absolutely zero point doing those little ‘net spend’ calculations and working out how much we have to spend. The simple answer is, we’ll make a profit trading players every window until there’s nowt left to sell.

[BurnleyFC]

Still fairly disgusted about our transfer window - talk about throwing in the white towel - but I suppose we shouldn’t be at all surprised anymore.

The club can come up with as many hare-brained ticketing ideas as they want to put bums on seats to ‘roar the lads on’, but while they continue to neglect the first team playing squad they will never work.

[claretspice]

As i've just said on another thread, at it's simplest, if you buy a Premier League football club on a financial model that threatens its sustainability in the event of relegation and no swift return, then the least you can do is ensure the recruitment to give your gamble a chance of working.

We've had 3 windows of ALK now, and they've delivered 4 players of any note across those, and essentially those have been funded by the sales of Gibson and Wood. We ended the summer with a squad that was at least one quality player short (a midfielder, or a winger to allow McNeil to move inside) on the promise that we'd be able to fix it in the winter window. Well, that window has been and gone, and we haven't. We haven't even brought in any "ones for the future" who might be a replacement for McNeil, or Westwood, or Cork or Mee or Pope in 6, 12 or 18 months time.

It may not be entirely due to ALK's lack of capital. It may be that Dyche remains too fixated on a particular type of player, and isn't willing to look at players who he doesn't feel will deliver in the immediacy. But even if that's true, it's ultimately for ALK to set a direction and for the manager to deliver it. It may be true that they were terribly unlucky with Orsic - but that was one signing, the bare minimum beyond replacing Wood that was required, and they essentially got burned for aiming for the bare minimum at the last minute. At some point, the "hard luck" stories have to be met with a dose of reality.

This team is not good enough to get 40 points, and I don't think it has enough to survive. It lacks technical ability and pace, and you can probably get away without one, but not both. it has corroded over the last 3-4 years and will go down barring an astonishing underperformance from Newcastle or a capitulation of grand proportions by someone like Brentford (who managed to be creative in the market themselves).

The last regime ultimately allowed investment to stagnate for 2-3 years, and the new owners knew that when they came in. But they haven't diffused the ticking time bomb yet - they've just allowed it to tick louder. And given their repeated failures to explain their business model properly, I think we've now reached the point where questions need to be asked quite loudly. Where exactly are we headed, and what is the strategy?

This window - 2/10.

[Enola Gay]

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