Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Would it be better (in your own opinion) if we were to (be relegated and) become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Instead of the constant struggle and frustration in the bottom six of the PL we’d potentially be in exciting play off games with a possible Wembley appearance. Our under 23 squad would have more chance of first team football (Championship level) and have more chance of developing (imo) into better players.
Ok, it’s a big risk, and a top six finish in the Championship is never guaranteed but if the club continues to be well run with a good manager/head coach, excellent training facilities and an improved international scouting system it could be a more interesting/exciting experience being a Burnley fan if our future is a that of a PL/Championship yo-yo club.
Instead of the constant struggle and frustration in the bottom six of the PL we’d potentially be in exciting play off games with a possible Wembley appearance. Our under 23 squad would have more chance of first team football (Championship level) and have more chance of developing (imo) into better players.
Ok, it’s a big risk, and a top six finish in the Championship is never guaranteed but if the club continues to be well run with a good manager/head coach, excellent training facilities and an improved international scouting system it could be a more interesting/exciting experience being a Burnley fan if our future is a that of a PL/Championship yo-yo club.
-
- Posts: 67
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:22 am
- Been Liked: 15 times
- Has Liked: 18 times
- Location: Lytham St. Annes
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Good point and most seasoned Burnley fans would accept that scenario. However the worry is the premiership revenue we lose and the rather shaky looking foundations of our balance sheet which might either leave us at best with a more frugal attitude to players contracts and infrastructure investment as you're suggesting. Worse case (and unthinkable) is yet another ownership swap and the associated financial skullduggery of dressing up the shop window again a la Garlick ( spend nowt until another willing victim comes along).
-
- Posts: 494
- Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:02 pm
- Been Liked: 92 times
- Has Liked: 261 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
History doesn't suggest it. We are gloriously inconsistent most of the time.
-
- Posts: 630
- Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:47 pm
- Been Liked: 110 times
- Has Liked: 77 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
We’re soon about too become a League 1 club.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
We’ve amassed 57 seasons in the top flight of English football, more than in any other league. Fed up of hearing we shouldn’t be there, we absolutely should!
It all stems from recruitment (combined with having a good manager) and that’s a department we couldn’t really do with improving in.
It all stems from recruitment (combined with having a good manager) and that’s a department we couldn’t really do with improving in.
-
- Posts: 3553
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:03 pm
- Been Liked: 656 times
- Has Liked: 2899 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
How many seasons since the abolition of the maximum wage?RVclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:27 pmWe’ve amassed 57 seasons in the top flight of English football, more than in any other league. Fed up of hearing we shouldn’t be there, we absolutely should!
It all stems from recruitment (combined with having a good manager) and that’s a department we couldn’t really do with improving in.
-
- Posts: 13273
- Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:00 pm
- Been Liked: 5102 times
- Has Liked: 5178 times
- Location: Montpellier, France
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
7 of the last 8 in the PL.
1 qualification for Europe.
We're clearly a top side.
1 qualification for Europe.
We're clearly a top side.
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
This desire has been floated before and it's rightly shot down because there's zero guarantee we'd make it back up.
23yrs isn't it since Forest went down?
They've spent a ridiculous amount of money trying to get back up and have got nowhere fast.
Boro were the ultimate yo-yo club and then didn't bounce back....
This link is to Rovers finances, but it shows the debt levels, the Losses etc for all championship clubs and it isn't pretty.
https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... ENg_g&s=19
We cannot risk becoming a yoyo club because some fans have this fanciful notion that we'd then go on to win more games when we drop so that would make them happier etc.
It's a silly idea and should be dismissed.
The PL was always going to be a slog, it is for the majority of teams and every so often a lesser team will have a season in the sun like we did when we finished 7th.
It takes ridiculous amounts of money to make that a regular occurrence.
Look at Leeds, they're starting to slide and there is a growing belief that Bielsa has reached his limit and cannot take them any further.
Villa potted the man who took and kept them up, because they have this belief they can break the top 6 but needed a different manager to try it and they've thrown hundreds of millions at it these last few years.
Same with Leicester, Wolves, Everton etc.
Without a billionaire we're here to make up the numbers and at somepoint it is going to end, but to want to yoyo so you can experience some wins in the championship every other season is very odd, even for the OP ...
23yrs isn't it since Forest went down?
They've spent a ridiculous amount of money trying to get back up and have got nowhere fast.
Boro were the ultimate yo-yo club and then didn't bounce back....
This link is to Rovers finances, but it shows the debt levels, the Losses etc for all championship clubs and it isn't pretty.
https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... ENg_g&s=19
We cannot risk becoming a yoyo club because some fans have this fanciful notion that we'd then go on to win more games when we drop so that would make them happier etc.
It's a silly idea and should be dismissed.
The PL was always going to be a slog, it is for the majority of teams and every so often a lesser team will have a season in the sun like we did when we finished 7th.
It takes ridiculous amounts of money to make that a regular occurrence.
Look at Leeds, they're starting to slide and there is a growing belief that Bielsa has reached his limit and cannot take them any further.
Villa potted the man who took and kept them up, because they have this belief they can break the top 6 but needed a different manager to try it and they've thrown hundreds of millions at it these last few years.
Same with Leicester, Wolves, Everton etc.
Without a billionaire we're here to make up the numbers and at somepoint it is going to end, but to want to yoyo so you can experience some wins in the championship every other season is very odd, even for the OP ...
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Excellent post.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:10 pmThis desire has been floated before and it's rightly shot down because there's zero guarantee we'd make it back up.
23yrs isn't it since Forest went down?
They've spent a ridiculous amount of money trying to get back up and have got nowhere fast.
Boro were the ultimate yo-yo club and then didn't bounce back....
This link is to Rovers finances, but it shows the debt levels, the Losses etc for all championship clubs and it isn't pretty.
https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... ENg_g&s=19
We cannot risk becoming a yoyo club because some fans have this fanciful notion that we'd then go on to win more games when we drop so that would make them happier etc.
It's a silly idea and should be dismissed.
The PL was always going to be a slog, it is for the majority of teams and every so often a lesser team will have a season in the sun like we did when we finished 7th.
It takes ridiculous amounts of money to make that a regular occurrence.
Look at Leeds, they're starting to slide and there is a growing belief that Bielsa has reached his limit and cannot take them any further.
Villa potted the man who took and kept them up, because they have this belief they can break the top 6 but needed a different manager to try it and they've thrown hundreds of millions at it these last few years.
Same with Leicester, Wolves, Everton etc.
Without a billionaire we're here to make up the numbers and at somepoint it is going to end, but to want to yoyo so you can experience some wins in the championship every other season is very odd, even for the OP ...
And assuming we go down this season then all it takes is for one of the promoted sides to stay up and therefore one of the "Too good to go down" will have to be relegated.
If both Fulham & Bournemouth were to stop up, assuming they get promoted then you'll be seeing clubs (praised on here for how well they've been run) drop for at least one season.
Whilst not in immediate danger of being relegated even Leicester have been struggling this season.
It really shows that apart from the big six then no club has a right to be in the Prem.
These 3 users liked this post: Anonymous GodIsADeeJay81 tiger76
-
- Posts: 67954
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Been Liked: 32572 times
- Has Liked: 5285 times
- Location: Burnley
- Contact:
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Whatever we are about to become, my desire is for us to be as good as we possibly can be and that means staying in this division.
I’ll be gutted if it ends this year but can look back on five previous seasons that have only ever seen us flirt with relegation, has included two top half finishes and a short trip into Europe.
Why would anyone want us to be anywhere but the Premier League?
I’ll be gutted if it ends this year but can look back on five previous seasons that have only ever seen us flirt with relegation, has included two top half finishes and a short trip into Europe.
Why would anyone want us to be anywhere but the Premier League?
These 11 users liked this post: Rowls Spijed GodIsADeeJay81 ElectroClaret evensteadiereddie RVclaret Pearcey tarkys_ears bodge k90bfc HunterST_BFC
-
- Posts: 6907
- Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:04 pm
- Been Liked: 2759 times
- Has Liked: 4325 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Isnt this our 59th season in the top division ?RVclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:27 pmWe’ve amassed 57 seasons in the top flight of English football, more than in any other league. Fed up of hearing we shouldn’t be there, we absolutely should!
It all stems from recruitment (combined with having a good manager) and that’s a department we couldn’t really do with improving in.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Well PTN you will fit in perfectly ... as you are a 3rd division supporter
-
- Posts: 18038
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:07 pm
- Been Liked: 4075 times
- Has Liked: 1854 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Why indeed.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:21 pm
Why would anyone want us to be anywhere but the Premier League?
Why any fan wouldn't want to play at the highest level of football possible is baffling.
This user liked this post: Spijed
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Maybe? I stand corrected if so
-
- Posts: 5661
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:25 pm
- Been Liked: 1219 times
- Has Liked: 7209 times
- Location: Chiang Rai, Thailand.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
I fear that if we go down, we may struggle next season.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
We are in the top league so this question just seems so irrelevant right now.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
After our first 2 seasons back in the second when we finished 7th twice, we went 6 seasons in the bottom half. Apart from our two 7th place finishes and the 3 promotions, our record has been pretty dismal in the Championship. We’ve been basically doing the same thing, put in a league higher and against some of the best team and players in the world.
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
True, but our Championship record under Dyche is second to none, so if we do drop, and assuming he stays, with good recruitment, plus keeping hold of most of our stars, we'll be strong favourites to make an instant return, as many relegated sides have in recent years.Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:59 pmAfter our first 2 seasons back in the second when we finished 7th twice, we went 6 seasons in the bottom half. Apart from our two 7th place finishes and the 3 promotions, our record has been pretty dismal in the Championship. We’ve been basically doing the same thing, put in a league higher and against some of the best team and players in the world.
We did finish lower half in those seasons, but often this was due to being forced to sell a star striker mid-season, when we were challenging near the top.
-
- Posts: 1506
- Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:20 am
- Been Liked: 238 times
- Has Liked: 58 times
- Location: on the gravy train in strasbourg
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Without a billionaire we're here to make up the numbers and at somepoint it is going to end, but to want to yoyo so you can experience some wins in the championship every other season is very odd, even for the OP ...
[/quote]
Slight curve ball here but if all PL clubs had billionaire owners would that level the playing field? Are there enough world class managers and players to fill 20 PL teams ?
Looking for opinions not trolling
[/quote]
Slight curve ball here but if all PL clubs had billionaire owners would that level the playing field? Are there enough world class managers and players to fill 20 PL teams ?
Looking for opinions not trolling
-
- Posts: 67954
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Been Liked: 32572 times
- Has Liked: 5285 times
- Location: Burnley
- Contact:
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Since the 2000 promotion we've had 14 seasons in the Championship which is 644 games.Dyched wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:59 pmAfter our first 2 seasons back in the second when we finished 7th twice, we went 6 seasons in the bottom half. Apart from our two 7th place finishes and the 3 promotions, our record has been pretty dismal in the Championship. We’ve been basically doing the same thing, put in a league higher and against some of the best team and players in the world.
Record
p 644
w 257
d 178
l 209
f 845
a 802
pts 949
I'd call that above average rather than pretty dismal
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Pretty dismal was harsh I guess. The point was those getting bored with finishing near the bottom of the Premier League and wanting to get back to the Championship to win games are forgetting all those unforgettable seasons we had down there.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:34 pmSince the 2000 promotion we've had 14 seasons in the Championship which is 644 games.
Record
p 644
w 257
d 178
l 209
f 845
a 802
pts 949
I'd call that above average rather than pretty dismal
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Slight curve ball here but if all PL clubs had billionaire owners would that level the playing field? Are there enough world class managers and players to fill 20 PL teams ?
Looking for opinions not trolling
[/quote]
Not really, because 3 clubs still have to get relegated at some point.
What would then happen is more billionaire owners in the championship trying to ensure they can get promoted.
I don't think there are enough "elite"/world class managers to fill the league either, plenty of up and coming ones though, the man at Sporting CP is currently the media darling from what I've read, so there are definitely managers out there to fill the league with.
Players - plenty of good quality players, just need them to fulfil visa requirements.
The bigger question is are there enough billionaires interested in buying English football clubs.
Sunderland have managed to find one, probably because they've got decent facilities and they were cheap, but plenty of other clubs struggle to attract one
-
- Posts: 9496
- Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:47 pm
- Been Liked: 1188 times
- Has Liked: 780 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
You can want something but if that want means never hardly winning & being at the bottom & having the worst form guide in the leagues why would you want that? If things were different an arguments there to be had that staying in the top league is the place to be, currently we can’t raise that argument so on that basis in order to be more competitive & in amongst teams of our own abilities it’s understandable why some people could be looking forward to the championship. We aren’t getting good hidings in the league but generally the results are very poor.ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:57 pmWhy indeed.
Why any fan wouldn't want to play at the highest level of football possible is baffling.
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Being a yo-yo club is probably the best we can hope for in the absence of a rich backer, I'd rank us as a similar size to Norwich and West Brom, and they've both managed plenty of promotions recently, admittedly also plenty of relegations, but if people genuinely thought we'd remain in the PL for an indefinite period, that was always unrealistic, there's only so often we can defy gravity, and the immense spending power of most other clubs.
If we do drop, then as long as Norwich & Watford join us there's nothing for us to fear in the Championship as far as I can see, and we'd hopefully be able to clear out some of the deadwood, pick up a few younger players with potential, and dare I say it we might even see some of our under 23's finally breaking through to the 1st team squad.
Apart from the big 6, Everton & Leicester every other club faces the prospect of falling to the Championship, and even Man City have played in the lower leagues relatively recently, so although the likes of Brighton and Wolves are faring well now, there's no guarantees even they will be able to maintain their current lofty positions.
TBH most fair-minded fans would accept we've done well to last as long as we have, 6 successive PL seasons is no mean feat for a club of our fairly limited resources compared to rest of the league.
If we do drop, then as long as Norwich & Watford join us there's nothing for us to fear in the Championship as far as I can see, and we'd hopefully be able to clear out some of the deadwood, pick up a few younger players with potential, and dare I say it we might even see some of our under 23's finally breaking through to the 1st team squad.
Apart from the big 6, Everton & Leicester every other club faces the prospect of falling to the Championship, and even Man City have played in the lower leagues relatively recently, so although the likes of Brighton and Wolves are faring well now, there's no guarantees even they will be able to maintain their current lofty positions.
TBH most fair-minded fans would accept we've done well to last as long as we have, 6 successive PL seasons is no mean feat for a club of our fairly limited resources compared to rest of the league.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
I'd call this bit pretty dismal.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:34 pmSince the 2000 promotion we've had 14 seasons in the Championship which is 644 games.
Record
p 644
w 257
d 178
l 209
f 845
a 802
pts 949
I'd call that above average rather than pretty dismal
f 845
a 802
-
- Posts: 67954
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Been Liked: 32572 times
- Has Liked: 5285 times
- Location: Burnley
- Contact:
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Some fans are never happy are they, and bearing in mind during many of those seasons we had a meagre budget compared to a lot of the other clubs.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:12 pmYou consider winning more often than losing and scoring more often than conceding dismal?
-
- Posts: 30730
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11062 times
- Has Liked: 5667 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
it's what teams that come up out the Championship will be know, too many teams owned by countries and multi-billionaires make it nigh on impossible to compete
-
- Posts: 2681
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:07 pm
- Been Liked: 782 times
- Has Liked: 1437 times
- Location: Mostly Europe
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Never dreamt we would ever be a premier league team due to the size of our town and modern football.
If we become a yo-yo team for these 2 leagues I’d be delighted.
If we become a yo-yo team for these 2 leagues I’d be delighted.
These 2 users liked this post: Vegas Claret tiger76
-
- Posts: 30730
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11062 times
- Has Liked: 5667 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
exactlyBurnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:52 pmNever dreamt we would ever be a premier league team due to the size of our town and modern football.
If we become a yo-yo team for these 2 leagues I’d be delighted.
These 2 users liked this post: Burnleyareback2 tiger76
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Most fans wish to see their team win, score goals
and perform well and you could say that Burnley fans
have been starved of much of that this season in particular.
So playing in the Championship would provide more of the above
especially if we were challenging for top spots and potential
promotion back to the top league.
Certainly better for most than a constant struggle to win games
and stay up even though our last two games have given fans
some hope and they've got behind the team.
But there's no guarantee we'd become a yo-yo club
and manage to get back up as there's a huge rebuilding
job needs doing in the summer.
Pope,Taylor, Brownhill, Collins, Roberts, Cornet, McNeil and Weghorst
(with the addition of a few good young'uns) might be the nucleus of a team capable of
doing well in the Championship but that's assuming we can hold onto most of them.
and perform well and you could say that Burnley fans
have been starved of much of that this season in particular.
So playing in the Championship would provide more of the above
especially if we were challenging for top spots and potential
promotion back to the top league.
Certainly better for most than a constant struggle to win games
and stay up even though our last two games have given fans
some hope and they've got behind the team.
But there's no guarantee we'd become a yo-yo club
and manage to get back up as there's a huge rebuilding
job needs doing in the summer.
Pope,Taylor, Brownhill, Collins, Roberts, Cornet, McNeil and Weghorst
(with the addition of a few good young'uns) might be the nucleus of a team capable of
doing well in the Championship but that's assuming we can hold onto most of them.
-
- Posts: 4955
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:47 am
- Been Liked: 1087 times
- Has Liked: 996 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
I’d rather yo-yo than head the way of Sunderland and so many other ex PL clubs.
-
- Posts: 23343
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
- Been Liked: 8058 times
- Has Liked: 4714 times
- Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
The way the PL is going, it will be twenty clubs all owned by states or billionaires, and all of them realising that three clubs will still go down
Its just a matter of time before it becomes a closed shop sadly
Its just a matter of time before it becomes a closed shop sadly
-
- Posts: 11123
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:29 pm
- Been Liked: 1576 times
- Has Liked: 360 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Tbh it is pretty much a closed shop now. It’s very much becoming a group of 20-24 clubs. With a few clubs getting promoted and relegated fairly regularly.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:35 amThe way the PL is going, it will be twenty clubs all owned by states or billionaires, and all of them realising that three clubs will still go down
Its just a matter of time before it becomes a closed shop sadly
Apart from Leeds and Brentford I can’t really think of any other clubs recently that have broken into the league
-
- Posts: 207
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:39 am
- Been Liked: 75 times
- Has Liked: 427 times
- Location: Australia
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
If we go down, we’ll lose our best players. I think along with Tarkowski, Pope, McNeil, Mee and possibly Weghorst. We face a massive rebuild if we get relegated.tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:13 pmTrue, but our Championship record under Dyche is second to none, so if we do drop, and assuming he stays, with good recruitment, plus keeping hold of most of our stars, we'll be strong favourites to make an instant return, as many relegated sides have in recent years.
We did finish lower half in those seasons, but often this was due to being forced to sell a star striker mid-season, when we were challenging near the top.
-
- Posts: 300
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:14 pm
- Been Liked: 78 times
- Has Liked: 13 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
It’s not that we want to become a yo-yo team or that we could become one, it’s more the idea that a mix of Championship and Premier League football would be the most exciting if it could be arranged. Unfortunately it can’t. The Premier League is the ultimate challenge for a club like us but one which can become a yearly struggle played mainly on the back foot. The Championship is competitively the most open and exciting and a standard where it’s possible for us to challenge for the top. It would certainly bring relief to see us a force on the front foot taking the game to our opponents, so yes occasionally in the ideal world a successful visit to the Championship would be a pleasant interlude. As we know football doesn’t work like that and the Championship is one step nearer Divisions 1& 2.
What would in my opinion be great to see if we do get relegated is the building of a young side capable of progressing rather than regressing. That might take a new manager with bolder and braver ideas and with it the accompanying risks, but watching a side develop is the most pleasing thing of all.
What would in my opinion be great to see if we do get relegated is the building of a young side capable of progressing rather than regressing. That might take a new manager with bolder and braver ideas and with it the accompanying risks, but watching a side develop is the most pleasing thing of all.
-
- Posts: 15286
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
- Been Liked: 3169 times
- Has Liked: 6770 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
No.
Apparently, relegation from the PL will open a trap door which will see us in the Northern Premier in about 6 years... so no.
Apparently, relegation from the PL will open a trap door which will see us in the Northern Premier in about 6 years... so no.
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
What's the problem with that?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:19 amNo.
Apparently, relegation from the PL will open a trap door which will see us in the Northern Premier in about 6 years... so no.
Apparently as long as the games are entertaining and we are playing good football it shouldn't really matter what league we are in.
These 3 users liked this post: boatshed bill GodIsADeeJay81 tiger76
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
At this moment in time the championship is reasonably competitiveclaretandbluesky wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:58 amThe Championship is competitively the most open and exciting and a standard where it’s possible for us to challenge for the top.
We have already reached the point where wealthy people/companies have started buying up championship clubs and eventually it will just be PL MK2, full of clubs vying for promotion each year and throwing money at it, whilst there will be a group of clubs not quite good enough for the championship and too good for league 1 and then league 1 looks more competitive for a time.
-
- Posts: 300
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:14 pm
- Been Liked: 78 times
- Has Liked: 13 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
It may be the case that the Championship does become a closed shop. Of course if we are able to compete in it that will make no difference, we will still get entertaining games. For the Liverpools and Man U’s of the world the Premier League is entertaining. The danger with the closed shop scenario is that the game becomes stale and loses its appeal. Sadly one of the downsides to Capitalism is the accumulation of wealth and power in a few hands and with it stagnation. Keeping the market open and free is the big problem, keeping completion vibrant and challenging is footballs big problem. It will need new laws and regulations to break out from the present rather predictable patterns.
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Huddersfield and Sheff Utd, but their PL stays were brief, and without checking it does seem to be the same teams bouncing up and down every other season, Fulham and Bournemouth look like maintaining that trend this season also.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:41 amTbh it is pretty much a closed shop now. It’s very much becoming a group of 20-24 clubs. With a few clubs getting promoted and relegated fairly regularly.
Apart from Leeds and Brentford I can’t really think of any other clubs recently that have broken into the league
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Are we about to become a PL/Championship yo-yo club?
Currently it's the mainly the same teams coming up that went down the previous season.
That's one of the complaints about parachute payments distorting the championship.
Link shows every relegated and promoted team since the PL started and there is a pattern where for a few years the same teams go up and down, but eventually those teams change because either one manages to stay up or another just stays down and in some cases drops further, so they're replaced by another team.
Just shows that aiming to yoyo isn't always successful.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ue_seasons
That's one of the complaints about parachute payments distorting the championship.
Link shows every relegated and promoted team since the PL started and there is a pattern where for a few years the same teams go up and down, but eventually those teams change because either one manages to stay up or another just stays down and in some cases drops further, so they're replaced by another team.
Just shows that aiming to yoyo isn't always successful.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ue_seasons