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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:30 am

NewClaret wrote:
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I don’t suppose you know this, but how exactly did germs. spies infiltrate a factory like that? I always imagine them sounding very German? Or were spies during the war just betraying their country?
These particular ones I believe were German special forces with flawless English accents.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bpgburn » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:05 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:30 am
These particular ones I believe were German special forces with flawless English accents.
I once read some years ago (not sure how true), that if someone was suspected of being a German spy in the war they would get them to read out some text that would include the word Squirrel, apparently no matter how good their English the Germans cannot pronounce it correctly.

I have worked in Germany many times over the years and we would often test it out and not one could pronounce squirrel even if we said it to them as opposed to being written down so they could hear how it should be pronounced. Interestingly they were convinced that they were pronouncing it perfectly, so maybe some truth in it.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by BigAlClaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:35 am

I'm as English as they come and still can't pronounce the word squirrel convincingly

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:43 am

bpgburn wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:05 am
I once read some years ago (not sure how true), that if someone was suspected of being a German spy in the war they would get them to read out some text that would include the word Squirrel, apparently no matter how good their English the Germans cannot pronounce it correctly.

I have worked in Germany many times over the years and we would often test it out and not one could pronounce squirrel even if we said it to them as opposed to being written down so they could hear how it should be pronounced. Interestingly they were convinced that they were pronouncing it perfectly, so maybe some truth in it.
In Holland during the invasion when Germans parachuted in dressed as Dutch policemen, apparently the Dutch asked suspects to say 'Scheveningen' (a Dutch seaside resort off The Hague). The 'Sche' sound has no translation into English but for Germans the nearest they can get is 'Shay'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZW7vIVb9VY
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bpgburn » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:52 am

BigAlClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:35 am
I'm as English as they come and still can't pronounce the word squirrel convincingly
Thankfully they have stopped shooting people who can't pronounce Squirrel so you're safe :)
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:20 am

bpgburn wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:05 am
I once read some years ago (not sure how true), that if someone was suspected of being a German spy in the war they would get them to read out some text that would include the word Squirrel, apparently no matter how good their English the Germans cannot pronounce it correctly.

I have worked in Germany many times over the years and we would often test it out and not one could pronounce squirrel even if we said it to them as opposed to being written down so they could hear how it should be pronounced. Interestingly they were convinced that they were pronouncing it perfectly, so maybe some truth in it.
Have you worked in Angle? Not saying that is where the spies came from, but I heard some Angle’s speaking English and I’d swear they spoke with Lancashire accents. I was truly astounded hearing them speak.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bpgburn » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:50 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:20 am
Have you worked in Angle? Not saying that is where the spies came from, but I heard some Angle’s speaking English and I’d swear they spoke with Lancashire accents. I was truly astounded hearing them speak.
No elwa, never been that far North in Germany but it wouldn't surprise me as they do speak English with different accents around the different regions.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Paul Waine » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:18 am

Hipper wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:43 am
In Holland during the invasion when Germans parachuted in dressed as Dutch policemen, apparently the Dutch asked suspects to say 'Scheveningen' (a Dutch seaside resort off The Hague). The 'Sche' sound has no translation into English but for Germans the nearest they can get is 'Shay'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZW7vIVb9VY
When I lived in Den Haag, early 90s, the way I heard this story is that the ability to pronounce "Scheveningen" was also used by the Germans to check the validity of anyone claiming to be Dutch but who was suspected to have forged papers. This included British forces who'd ended up in the Netherlands while it was under German occupation. Thankfully, when you boarded a tram there was no need to tell the driver where you were going, you just stamped your "strippenkaart." Two or three of the tram lines terminated at Scheveningen, including one I would catch to the office - when I wasn't using my bike.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Volvoclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:48 am

Any further updates?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:12 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:48 am
Any further updates?
All pretty quiet, Belarus and Russia ‘on manoeuvres,’ which usually means there is a re-think, re-stock and recruitment drive underway.

They have to do something as current supply routes are providing sitting ducks. Some major logistical problems.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:19 pm

Rob Lee: Video from Ukraine’s Aidar Battalion reportedly showing a D-30 artillery strike on a Russian tank.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1556 ... e6qIGfNkig

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:21 pm

Rob Lee: Another video of Kirpi MRAPs in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1556 ... e6qIGfNkig

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:22 pm

Rob Lee: Ukraine has reportedly received Kirpi MRAPs from Turkey.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1556 ... e6qIGfNkig

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:23 pm

Rob Lee: Video of an explosion at the Saki Airbase in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1556 ... e6qIGfNkig

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:41 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:23 pm
Rob Lee: Video of an explosion at the Saki Airbase in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1556 ... e6qIGfNkig
That's about 200 miles from the front lines. I wonder how they managed that. But wow...

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:04 pm

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status ... WmmxA&s=19

Some big explosions here, potentially munitions dumps

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:09 pm

BigAlClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:35 am
I'm as English as they come and still can't pronounce the word squirrel convincingly
I just say tree rat

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:16 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:41 pm
That's about 200 miles from the front lines. I wonder how they managed that. But wow...
I've seen a few vids of the Novofedorivka Crimean military base "mushroom clouds" now- a few here https://twitter.com/WarAgainstPutin
This town is on Crimea's west coast about halfway down so best part of 150 miles from where Ukraine might place artillery (only another 30 miles southwards to Sevastopol). Could be accident or sabotage but the strikes way behind Russian lines have been increasing a lot lately, this one during daytime too.

Overnight there seems to have been more ammo dump attacks, a fairly big one at Melitopol which would be again be well over 100 miles from Ukrainian (relatively) safe artillery positions and one nearer Kherson.

Nowhere safe for Russian ammo build-ups within 150 miles now apparently! Wonder if they'll have a go at Savastopol soon?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Volvoclaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:47 pm

Cheers for the updates chaps.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:57 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:04 pm
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status ... WmmxA&s=19

Some big explosions here, potentially munitions dumps
Really staggering stuff.

Does anyone know how debilitating these are? They seem to have hit so many it’s hard to believe they have any ammo left. Yet the ones so far don’t seem to have hindered them too much. If I were a Russian soldier and I saw these, I’d be worried where the continued supply of ammunition was coming from.

That’s a lot of cash going up in flames in any event.

Can’t imagine we’ll see them on this scale for much longer. Presumably they’re splitting them up?!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:58 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:04 pm
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status ... WmmxA&s=19

Some big explosions here, potentially munitions dumps
The Russians have tried to play this incident at the airfield down as a few munitions going off with minor injured personnel and no aviation equipment involved. However, some online videos are appearing showing destroyed planes and a lot of destruction and indicating quite a few casualties.

Theres a film that seems to indicate one very destroyed Sukhoi and intimating damage to other aircraft around it https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK (appears to be a firefighter to the right attending to a fire further to the right + photo showing other planes in close proximity before the incident.

Couple of other sequences early on this site purporting to show quite a lot of general destruction at the airport (cars / buildings etc- in line with the huge explosions). https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:39 am

9 planes destroyed yesterday according to latest Ukrainian figures.

If that is true, that’s a very successful operation. What we don’t know is whether any pilots were killed in the attack. I guess it’s harder to replace those, but possibly a reason why it was attacked during the day?

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:23 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:31 am
https://twitter.com/Flash43191300/statu ... rgW4g&s=19

This is grim news
Hardly shocking though. There have been many such reports, most memorably the two garage workers who did everything humanly possible to placate the invaders, to the point they were released… only to be shot in the back as they walked away. All caught on CCTV

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:23 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:23 am
Hardly shocking though. There have been many such reports, most memorably the two garage workers who did everything humanly possible to placate the invaders, to the point they were released… only to be shot in the back as they walked away. All caught on CCTV
Yes, I remember seeing that one

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:24 am

ELINT NEWS RETWEET: A U.S. official tells @NBCNews that Russian troops have been getting training in Iran on UAVs (drones) that Iran intends to transfer to Russia. Training occurred in the last several weeks and the US intel on it recently downgraded

https://twitter.com/joshnbcnews/status/ ... SW3kHBX5ag

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:03 pm

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/155 ... ma-1215215

Message to Russians from the Ukranian Ministry of Defence.

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:12 pm

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/massive-leak- ... 45668.html

The longer this goes on the more dissent will build.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:42 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:12 pm
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/massive-leak- ... 45668.html

The longer this goes on the more dissent will build.
Putin always said he wanted to remembered as a Czar like figure, at this rate it will be Nicholas II, rather than Peter the Great.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:47 pm

KYIV INDEPENDENT: Official: Russian military shells Nikopol district.

Russian troops shelled a community in the Nikopol district, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, late on Aug. 10, Yevhen Yevtushenko, who heads Nikopol district military administration, reported via Telegram.

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... qO9U4qfDyQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:43 pm

interesting if true
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:59 am

JarrowClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:35 pm
Wowity wow wow wow

https://twitter.com/osintua/status/1557 ... bSpNDB57oA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62500560

This is incredible.

Looking at the photos it looks like the aircraft are damaged but not their protective mounds. Can rockets/artillery be that accurate? Surely this is a special forces operation?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:02 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:43 pm
interesting if true
https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/08/11/exp ... sed-media/

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:15 am

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/155 ... RDePg&s=19

Ukraine just trolling the Russians again .....

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:21 am

Hipper wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:59 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62500560

This is incredible.

Looking at the photos it looks like the aircraft are damaged but not their protective mounds. Can rockets/artillery be that accurate? Surely this is a special forces operation?
By the looks of things: yes!

Are the planes at the bottom destroyed or were they at service? Hard to tell from the picture. A lot more than 9 destroyed if that were the case.

Seems they left 3 though? Wonder if those missiles were intercepted, missed, or they just didn’t have enough to finish the job?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:49 pm

Phillips OBrien (retweet): Ukrainian Air Force reported they have destroyed two Kalibr cruise missiles over the Kharkiv region, which were fired from the Black Sea. Original way to waste 13 million dollar from the Russian budget.

https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1 ... e_MLFsO4Ug

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:51 pm

NEXTA: Russians seize trillions of dollars worth of mineral deposits in Ukraine

More than 60% of coal deposits, 20% of gas deposits and more than 40% of metal deposits are concentrated in the occupied regions. The total value of $12.4 trillion.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/155 ... e_MLFsO4Ug

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:04 pm

REUTERS: Ukraine, Russia blame each other for shelling of nuclear

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1557 ... e_MLFsO4Ug

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:09 pm

ROB LEE: Colonel Kanat Mukatov, another Deputy Commander of the 20th Motorized Rifle Division, and Senior Lieutenant Oleg Pivnev were also both killed in the presumed HIMARS strike on the division's HQ on the night of July 8.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1557 ... e_MLFsO4Ug

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:34 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:21 am
By the looks of things: yes!

Are the planes at the bottom destroyed or were they at service? Hard to tell from the picture. A lot more than 9 destroyed if that were the case.

Seems they left 3 though? Wonder if those missiles were intercepted, missed, or they just didn’t have enough to finish the job?
I enlarged the BBC photo using 'CTR:' + '+' (you can reduce it back to normal with 'CTRL' + '0' (zero)) and it looks like the aircraft that were in the bottom red box (and the others in that group, totalling six in all) are no longer present. It also seems that some explosion has occurred between the two very left positions which were originally unoccupied. Of the other ten a/c it looks like seven were destroyed or badly damaged.

Fascinating stuff isn't it.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:15 am

KYIV INDEPENDENT: More British M270 MLRS arrive in Ukraine.

Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov thanked his British counterpart Ben Wallace and assured him that the Ukraine "skillfully uses foreign weapons on the battlefield."

He added that other “gifts” from foreign partners will soon arrive.

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... Gk80tm9L3Q

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:16 am

REUTERS: Russian state depository files lawsuit to overturn EU sanctions

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1558 ... Gk80tm9L3Q

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:19 am

OSINT TECH: Busy day of USTRANSCOM 747s landing at Rzeszow, CMB471, CMB473, and CMB464 have already landed, with CMB475 scheduled for later today. Just about 1,000,000lbs of combined payload most likely making its way to the Ukrainian border.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... Gk80tm9L3Q
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Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:22 am

NEXTA: A monument to a Soviet soldier was dismantled in the Ukrainian city of Chernivtsi.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/155 ... Gk80tm9L3Q

not a big fan of removing statues, but understandable in the current circumstances.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:26 am

REUTERS: EU gas flows via Nord Stream and Ukraine remain steady

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1558 ... Gk80tm9L3Q

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:28 am

NEW VOICE OF UKRAINE: A shell fired by Russian invasion forces hit the courtyard of a residential building in the center of Kharkiv, the city’s mayor, Ihor Terehov, reported on Telegramon Aug 11.

https://twitter.com/newvoiceukraine/sta ... Gk80tm9L3Q

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:31 am

BBC WORLD SERVICE: Crimea blasts significantly hit Russian navy, says UK's Ministry of Defence

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/155 ... Gk80tm9L3Q

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:31 am

Hipper wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:34 pm
I enlarged the BBC photo using 'CTR:' + '+' (you can reduce it back to normal with 'CTRL' + '0' (zero)) and it looks like the aircraft that were in the bottom red box (and the others in that group, totalling six in all) are no longer present. It also seems that some explosion has occurred between the two very left positions which were originally unoccupied. Of the other ten a/c it looks like seven were destroyed or badly damaged.

Fascinating stuff isn't it.
Absolutely fascinating, Hipper.

If your analysis is correct, it’s a shame the line of planes weren’t present at the attack. You assume one missile in the middle of that line would destroy them all if they were fuelled. Can only assume they were on missions given the attack took place during the day.

Nevertheless, most likely the most embarrassing day for Russia since they sunk that ship.

Reports of more western arms this morning will hopefully mean they can start to take further scalps like this and turn the tide of the war.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:34 am

NEXTA: Commander Denis Prokhorov told about possible scenarios for the Belarusian army in the Russian-Ukrainian war for American channel Fox News: :
" Minsk's troops will rebel if Belarus tries to force soldiers to aid Russia"

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/155 ... Gk80tm9L3Q

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