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Re: Russia Invades

Post by jos » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:29 pm

The Kyiv Independent:-
These are the indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses as of Nov. 26, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... JJz-F1ZtgQ

Makes me wonder if Putin would have started this war had he known what losses Russia would suffer beforehand!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:44 pm

welsbyswife wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:22 pm
Strong man or no strong man, the point still stands. Their population is falling and killing off young men of child producing age isn't going to help.
From what I’ve seen they’re not of child bearing age - more grandads army!

And a huge volume of them are convicts, which explains the atrocities that are taking place!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:48 pm

jos wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:29 pm
The Kyiv Independent:-
These are the indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses as of Nov. 26, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... JJz-F1ZtgQ

Makes me wonder if Putin would have started this war had he known what losses Russia would suffer beforehand!
This is what I was referring to earlier; only two tanks destroyed. In other phases of the war it was high teens, especially when 500+ personnel had died. They either don’t have many left, are protecting them a bit better, or Ukrainians are low on anti-tank ammo.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:26 pm

jos wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:21 pm
NOEL Reports:-
This is how trenches and hideouts at the front look like in the east. To give you an idea about the circumstances.

https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/ ... JJz-F1ZtgQ
Horrible!.....maybe there's Permafrost underneath?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:16 am

Russian forces are likely using inert Kh-55 cruise missiles in their massive missile strike campaign against Ukrainian critical infrastructure, further highlighting the depletion of the Russian military’s high-precision weapons arsenal. The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense (MoD) reported on November 26 that Russia is likely removing nuclear warheads from aging Kh-55 missiles and launching the missiles without warheads at targets in Ukraine. The UK MoD suggested that Russian forces are likely launching the inert missiles as decoys to divert Ukrainian air defenses. Ukrainian officials have previously reported that since mid-October, Russian forces have extensively used the non-nuclear variant of the missile system, the Kh-555, to conduct strikes on critical Ukrainian infrastructure. The Russian military’s likely use of a more strategic weapon system in the role of a decoy for Ukrainian air defenses corroborates ISW’s previous reporting that the Russian military has significantly depleted its arsenal of high-precision missiles. The use of more strategic weapons systems in support of the campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure suggests that the Russian military is heavily committed to the strike campaign and still mistakenly believes that it can generate strategically significant effects through that campaign.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgr ... ovember-26

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:34 pm

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1596872759950594048

Been some time since we've had a "Russian logistics aren't great" thread

Here is another one, this one highlighting the importance of Luhansk as a logistical hub

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:43 pm

THE WEEK (speculating a jostle for position in a new order): Pundits say Ukraine defeats may trigger president’s exit following 22 years as Russian leader


https://twitter.com/theweekuk/status/15 ... cTdEFzDzHg

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:22 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:43 pm
THE WEEK (speculating a jostle for position in a new order): Pundits say Ukraine defeats may trigger president’s exit following 22 years as Russian leader


https://twitter.com/theweekuk/status/15 ... cTdEFzDzHg
No idea what will happen with it but it scares me thinking about who could replace him.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:22 pm

Bobzuruncle wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:52 pm
Apologies that this is off topic but the link above sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole where I found this quite nice thread that I thought would be good to share …

https://twitter.com/sarri_c/status/1592991714519977984
Just hit the NEW Topic button and you can give it a new thread. :-)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:27 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:22 pm
No idea what will happen with it but it scares me thinking about who could replace him.
You are hitting the nail on the head. Putin has lost the plot, but their national way of seeing the world is so divergent from the West’s it is hard to see another Gorbachev emerging, just another paranoid power mad dictator.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:53 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:27 pm
You are hitting the nail on the head. Putin has lost the plot, but their national way of seeing the world is so divergent from the West’s it is hard to see another Gorbachev emerging, just another paranoid power mad dictator.
Nobody will be as bad as Putin, and, he’ll also have far fewer options available to whoever it is. Putin has spent all their tanks and a good number of their men. I imagine his successor will keep up a pretence for a while, fulfil whatever moral obligations he feels he agreed to as part of the handover, then claim a big change in circumstances and pull out - probably stabbing Putin in the back for screwing it all up.

The 9 planes they have sent to China for supplies is somewhat worrying though.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:10 am

Will the West sanction China if as suspected they are delivering military aid,also with the anti government protests in China can the leadership afford to have Protests on 2 fronts.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:37 am

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:10 am
Will the West sanction China if as suspected they are delivering military aid,also with the anti government protests in China can the leadership afford to have Protests on 2 fronts.
Not sure. I think sanctions would hurt our economies too.

I think it likely depends what they’re supplying - protective gear I’m sure will go unspoken. If they start supplying weapons then perhaps a different story.

The best thing to do is to not buy anything made in China, which I always try to, but it’s pretty difficult!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:17 pm

NEW VOICE OF UKRAINE: The Ukrainian military can hear the bells a-jinglin'

https://twitter.com/newvoiceukraine/sta ... ESDUk7RN-Q

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:22 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:37 am
Not sure. I think sanctions would hurt our economies too.

I think it likely depends what they’re supplying - protective gear I’m sure will go unspoken. If they start supplying weapons then perhaps a different story.

The best thing to do is to not buy anything made in China, which I always try to, but it’s pretty difficult!
Have we put sanctions on Iran or N Korea when they’ve supplied arms? If not(and I can’t remember), then why would we sanction China even if they do supply weapons?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:23 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:22 pm
Have we put sanctions on Iran or N Korea when they’ve supplied arms? If not(and I can’t remember), then why would we sanction China even if they do supply weapons?
Fair point, although I assume both Iran and N Korea are already heavily sanctioned?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:25 pm

Indeed they are. But I think we’d increase that if the policy was “weapons supply = sanctions”.

Given what we’re supplying across the “west”, I just sanctions for supplying weapons would be a little hypocritical (even if we’re supplying the “good guys”).

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:44 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:25 pm
Indeed they are. But I think we’d increase that if the policy was “weapons supply = sanctions”.

Given what we’re supplying across the “west”, I just sanctions for supplying weapons would be a little hypocritical (even if we’re supplying the “good guys”).
Just my 2 pence worth.

Russians believe and are happy to accept the Ukrainians are a sub human species that they are happy to be eliminated. Erm, where did we see that before. They don’t even hose it, it’s all over Russian TV and social media.

Thing is they also think that about Europeans including the Brits.

So they either die and stop on Ukrainian soil or the west ends up fighting them.

Best end it Ukraine.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:09 pm

Oh I absolutely agree that we’re doing the right thing by supplying weapons. As much as we can afford once our own stockpiles are resupplied works for me.

But I can’t see how we could sanction someone for selling their weapons (as good or not as they are), when we’re doing the same! I’d rather confront countries like India that are sitting on the fence and buying Russian oil.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:19 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:44 pm
Just my 2 pence worth.

Russians believe and are happy to accept the Ukrainians are a sub human species that they are happy to be eliminated. Erm, where did we see that before. They don’t even hose it, it’s all over Russian TV and social media.

Thing is they also think that about Europeans including the Brits.

So they either die and stop on Ukrainian soil or the west ends up fighting them.

Best end it Ukraine.
You overestimate the Bolshevik’s if you are not including the Russian serf classes in your list.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:02 pm


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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:33 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:02 pm
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russi ... 25658.html
Good target for drones?
Depends if you know where exactly it is, if close inshore then what are its defences other than the ship borne ones. A 1 degree aiming error over 10km is roughly 170m off target, even if you can steer your weapon. Trust me, targeting is harder than on call of duty!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:20 pm

They will surely have pinpoint Western satellite positioning ?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:08 am

https://twitter.com/lindseyhilsum/statu ... 2855314432

C4 report from the trenches in Donestk (just a guess, but this will be around or near Donestk City and airport, as they have clearly been there a long time and there hasn't been much (if any) movement around there since 2014

The whole region is just a mass of fortifications like this, and its almost impossible to move forward against

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:08 pm

Some updates, indicating how desperate Russia are getting for recruits, interesting link in there as well about in fighting between the Wagner group and regular soldiers.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/putin-prison- ... 20534.html

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:31 pm

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/p ... -july-2022

Initial conclusions on the war from a NATO/UK perspective going forward

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:27 am

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/sta ... 3437974529

US to step up training for Ukrainian forces

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:00 am

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-for ... 00708.html
More damage inflicted on Russian forces.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:20 am

https://twitter.com/mickbk/status/1597874772809072641

More on the very pointless (operationally and strategically) Battle for Bakhmut

Interesting bit at the end about weapons breaking, which I assume is to do with the barrel replacement on artillery guns, as if they are in constant action, then they will need a regular supply of both new barrels and somewhere safe to change them

I'm sure I read somewhere that the US has set up a facility in Poland to repair the damaged 155 mm artillery pieces its sending to Ukraine

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:43 am

NEXTA: Gauleiter Denis Pushilin reports on another exchange of prisoners of war in the 50-50 format.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/159 ... -Ig1T9J-sQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:45 am

NEXTA: Switzerland has frozen Russian assets worth almost $8 billion

In addition, 15 properties of Russians were blocked, said the Ministry of Economy of the country.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/159 ... -Ig1T9J-sQ

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:17 pm

https://twitter.com/Defense_lu/status/1 ... 7364115462

16% of Luxembourgs defence budget has gone to help Ukraine

some very useful equipment on that list

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:17 pm

I worry that at some point regardless if they want to send more aid to Ukraine, the NATO countries, with some exceptions, are going to run out of stuff to send without dipping past their own minimum requirements. Some of this I think is because of years of not fulfilling their required GDP expenditures, some because 80 years of peace means they just haven't used that much equipment so they don't have factories built up beyond what's required for a slow steady, plannable replacement. And for the old Soviet equipment from our eastern Allies, obviously there are finite amounts of that to give.

It's not just EU governments running into this issue, it's the USA as well.

One option of course is to send modern, Western equipment if the issue is you've run out of Soviet stuff. But the West still seems very unwilling to do that. Another option is to restart production of the needed supplies, ammunition and artillery shells for example, but that takes serious time.

I worry that Russia's pack-ratting of everything from the 60's and 50's is going to pay off at some point as long as they are willing to pay the price in blood. And I've seen no evidence that they mind sending human waves of conscripts and penal brigades has caused them an ounce of worry so far.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:23 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:17 pm
I worry that at some point regardless if they want to send more aid to Ukraine, the NATO countries, with some exceptions, are going to run out of stuff to send without dipping past their own minimum requirements. Some of this I think is because of years of not fulfilling their required GDP expenditures, some because 80 years of peace means they just haven't used that much equipment so they don't have factories built up beyond what's required for a slow steady, plannable replacement. And for the old Soviet equipment from our eastern Allies, obviously there are finite amounts of that to give.

It's not just EU governments running into this issue, it's the USA as well.

One option of course is to send modern, Western equipment if the issue is you've run out of Soviet stuff. But the West still seems very unwilling to do that. Another option is to restart production of the needed supplies, ammunition and artillery shells for example, but that takes serious time.

I worry that Russia's pack-ratting of everything from the 60's and 50's is going to pay off at some point as long as they are willing to pay the price in blood. And I've seen no evidence that they mind sending human waves of conscripts and penal brigades has caused them an ounce of worry so far.
If the NATO countries aren't ramping up production of ammunition already I'll be astonished

There must be substantial ammo stocks and factories in all the ex-Warsaw Pact countries I'd have thought (I read somewhere that 2 factories in Bulgaria producing old Soviet era artillery shells had re started production)

Lots of orders for equipment being placed with South Korea by Poland as well (South Korea has an almost unlimited factory production as I think all their industry can be used for war material for very obvious reasons)

But yeah, its a worry, but its a worry that will get less as the fighting goes on

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:11 pm

The USA will keep supplying Ukraine at any cost.

Ukraine are destroying the Russia army with their help but not one American will die.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:03 pm

I have read loads of reports of arms suppliers increasing production, why would they not. This is a great opportunity for them to make lots of money.

The American company that shut down the stinger production line have brought back retired employees to start the line back up. To be fair as a production engineer myself that’s the fastest way to get it going.

There will be lots of ramping up all over the world.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:09 pm

Good for Lancashire with our defence industry.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:41 pm

Out of interest, where are our weapons and ammunition manufactured?

Before this war I’d have been well up for massive reductions in traditional defence spending to be redirected to cyber warfare protections but this has just underlined the need to stockpile very large quantities of ammunition in my opinion.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:42 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:41 pm
Out of interest, where are our weapons and ammunition manufactured?
Depends on what calibre / type. But lots of it is UK based.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:54 pm

Long list concerning the UK Defence Sector.

https://www.trade.gov/country-commercia ... nd-defense

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:28 pm

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukrainia ... 00057.html

Ukraine is producing its own 152mm artillery shells

Most of its artillery is still that calibre (Soviet era) so a big plus

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:30 pm

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/african-forme ... 22556.html
More evidence of the Russian rabble army and how it treats mercenaries.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:41 am

Public hangings in Luhansk region by the Russians (not posting link for obvious reasons)


I think its fair to say that they are rapidly losing control of the civilian population, and it might be that the 97% who voted to join Russia in the recent referendum might not be entirely representative of the actual population

The Russian supply situation will not be helped by partisan action behind the lines, and they will have to keep substantial bodies of troops (who won't be the best trained, or the best motivated) to try to maintain order and control

Almost certainly that will make the situation worse

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:20 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ru ... 455396e589
As more people mutiny the regime will hopefully turn on itself.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:27 pm

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/15 ... 8537174017

Something hit Russian strategic airbases deep in Russia - could be drones, could be sabotage, could be accidents

I'm not sure hitting Russian strategic defence weapons is a particularly good idea and its a rather worrying development

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:34 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:27 pm
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/15 ... 8537174017

Something hit Russian strategic airbases deep in Russia - could be drones, could be sabotage, could be accidents

I'm not sure hitting Russian strategic defence weapons is a particularly good idea and its a rather worrying development
Looks a very minor to me unless more pictures surface.

Could be an accident with the refuelling or a badly executed sabotage attack.

Not that I would blame the Ukrainians for bringing the war to Russias doorstep, given the destruction Putin has brought to their country.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:39 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:34 pm
Looks a very minor to me unless more pictures surface.

Could be an accident with the refuelling or a badly executed sabotage attack.

Not that I would blame the Ukrainians for bringing the war to Russias doorstep, given the destruction Putin has brought to their country.
Its two airbases on the same day, which would suggest sabotage or Ukrainian attack, but my concern over damaging Russian strategic systems is that they rely on them to defend the Motherland against all attacks

I don't disagree that Ukraine has every right to hit them btw, but its a worrying development

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:44 pm

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1599833639201619969

More pic of the damage

I have no idea how long this sort of damage takes to repair, and its impossible to see if there is anyother damage to part of the aircraft

Absolutely outstanding that Russia STILL allows this level of security in military units

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Claretnick » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:04 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:44 pm
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1599833639201619969

More pic of the damage

I have no idea how long this sort of damage takes to repair, and its impossible to see if there is anyother damage to part of the aircraft

Absolutely outstanding that Russia STILL allows this level of security in military units
A Soviet made drone from the 70's according to this tweet
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/15998 ... snmT84jEwg
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