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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:04 pm

Missiles hit Kyiv, Kharkiv and other cities during G7 summit.

Putin likes making sure people don't forget him just as he did when UN Head Gutierrez was visiting Kyiv.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61943252

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:51 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/nato-to-sign ... t-12641191
I think NATO are getting ready if not to directly intervene then to remind Russia that one stray missile in a NATO country will have consequences.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:54 pm

If Russia somehow wins in Ukraine, do NATO go on the offensive and reclaim the Ukranian land?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:01 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:54 pm
If Russia somehow wins in Ukraine, do NATO go on the offensive and reclaim the Ukranian land?
No one knows, but I think it was telling the new Major General appointed last week, in his acceptance speech stated he saw his job as building an army that could defend against and react to Russian aggression, with feet on the ground.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:05 pm

REUTERS: From Breakingviews - Breakingviews: Russia default makes bondholders political stooges

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1541 ... HdrNvYtC0w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:08 pm

NEW VOICE OF UKRAINE: Russia announced a default on its foreign currency-denominated sovereign debt for the first time since 1918 on June 27, as Western sanctions cut the Russian Finance Ministry’s access to foreign currency with which to pay its creditors.

https://twitter.com/newvoiceukraine/sta ... HdrNvYtC0w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:37 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:01 pm
No one knows, but I think it was telling the new Major General appointed last week, in his acceptance speech stated he saw his job as building an army that could defend against and react to Russian aggression, with feet on the ground.
That would be the CGS Patrick Cordingly, the army has been set up for COIN ops for around 20 years and has suffered because of this. Warrior upgrade cancelled, CR 3 delays amongst others but the comment I suspect is more related to the announced Cuts rather than Russia.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:38 pm

REUTERS: NATO to massively increase high-readiness forces to 300,000 - Stoltenberg

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1541 ... HdrNvYtC0w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:40 pm

REUTERS: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy urged Western leaders to supply anti-aircraft defense systems to his embattled nation as Russian forces assaulted Lysychansk, the last big city still held by Ukrainian troops in eastern Luhansk province

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1541 ... HdrNvYtC0w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:43 pm

REUTERS: A 'default' when flush with cash: Five signs Russia ain't sinking yet

LONDON, June 27 (Reuters) - Russia may have defaulted for the first time on foreign bonds since the Bolsheviks refused to pay on a vast debt pile after the 1917 Revolution, but its $1.8 trillion economy is showing no sign of sinking just yet.

The sanctions imposed by the West over Russia's invasion of Ukraine delivered the biggest external shock to Russia's economy since the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union, but the economy has - so far - been remarkably resilient.

https://twitter.com/reutersuk/status/15 ... HdrNvYtC0w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:56 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:08 pm
NEW VOICE OF UKRAINE: Russia announced a default on its foreign currency-denominated sovereign debt for the first time since 1918 on June 27, as Western sanctions cut the Russian Finance Ministry’s access to foreign currency with which to pay its creditors.

https://twitter.com/newvoiceukraine/sta ... HdrNvYtC0w
This BBC article says it will have little economic effect for the moment. It's not about lack of Russian finance or unwillingness to pay but sanctions preventing the payment method working.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61929926

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:16 pm

Hipper wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:56 pm
This BBC article says it will have little economic effect for the moment. It's not about lack of Russian finance or unwillingness to pay but sanctions preventing the payment method working.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61929926
Yes the Reuters article immediately above your post reaches the same conclusion. But as we know once an account starts defaulting it burns money very quickly in penalties. What I think is telling that Russia is unwilling/unable to pay their dues and keep the war funded, presumably because the know things are about to start getting sticky in the not too distant future.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:18 pm

Shopping centre - clearly a "highly-strategic military target" - hit by Russian missiles in Kremenchuk.

And on it goes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61941287

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgSn1Z2rq6E

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:21 pm

yep, time for NATO to wake the **** up
https://twitter.com/danriversitv/status ... KsXJXCX3gQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:21 pm
yep, time for NATO to wake the **** up
https://twitter.com/danriversitv/status ... KsXJXCX3gQ
The scale of that fire is bloody frightening. Two dead thus fire but you have to fear that toll will mount. And the number of severely burnt people doesn't bear thinking about. No warning. You're pushing your trolley around, having a drink, waiting at a checkout and all hell breaks out.

Bloody evil b*****ds.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by The Enclosure » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:35 pm

There is only one thing that Putin understands, and its not sanctions.
Unfortunately if Nato responds in kind the outcome does not bear thinking about.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:37 pm

ecc wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:32 pm
The scale of that fire is bloody frightening. Two dead thus fire but you have to fear that toll will mount. And the number of severely burnt people doesn't bear thinking about. No warning. You're pushing your trolley around, having a drink, waiting at a checkout and all hell breaks out.

Bloody evil b*****ds.
it sounds like Russia was targeting an oil depot quite a distance away and missed in dramatic fashion. Ukraine needs bombers sending in not more sanctions. Putin has **** all as many of us have been saying from the start. How may times has he "threatened" a response to the West and failed to do it (because he can't) every single time?!. NATO are a joke

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:04 pm

Ukraine are not a NATO member though, will the next move be letting them join ?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:20 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:04 pm
Ukraine are not a NATO member though, will the next move be letting them join ?
neither are Switzerland but do you think the NATO response would have been sanctions had Putin dropped a bunch of rockets on Zurich ? I don't

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:47 pm

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status ... 1209176064

Ukraine hit a very large Russian ammo dump in Luhansk Oblast

(100km trail of smoke)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:57 pm

As a post said on twitter further down from the picture the American supplied missiles could be the game changer.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:05 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:57 pm
As a post said on twitter further down from the picture the American supplied missiles could be the game changer.
There are at least three different Russian ammo dumps burning on twitter at the moment

Perfectly possible that Ukraine has been sitting on the location of various Russian ammo dumps that are nominally out of range and just waiting for the arrival of either the Caesar SP Guns from France or the US supplied MRLS system (both with out range Russian counter battery fire)

Also worth mentioning that Soviet doctrine (and therefore Russia unlikely to change) was for huge, very well protected ammo dumps

If Ukraine have started hitting them then.....

Plus there are also reports of Belarus ammunition being loaded and sent to Russia today, which rather does suggest the Russians might have an ammo shortage, and this won't help
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:14 pm

ecc wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:32 pm
The scale of that fire is bloody frightening. Thirteen dead and counting.And the number of severely burnt people doesn't bear thinking about. No warning. You're pushing your trolley around, having a drink, waiting at a checkout and all hell breaks out.

Bloody evil b*****ds.


Any idea where the missile was supposed to land?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:20 pm

Unless this was a "mistake" it is nothing more and nothing less than terrorism.

They want all Ukranians to fear for their lives through terrorist attacks. They can't take over the whole country so next best thing is to act like terrorists.

The irony of it all: the Russians wiping out cities in Syria to get rid of terrorists.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:13 am

Of to Riga next week lads. Unsure about how sensible it is but sod it, more than happy to chin Vlad if i see him in a hospoda

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:46 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:13 am
Of to Riga next week lads. Unsure about how sensible it is but sod it, more than happy to chin Vlad if i see him in a hospoda
If you're going to chin him, do it with an AK-47, Žižkov. No need for a hospoda then.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:52 am

ecc wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:46 am
If you're going to chin him, do it with an AK-47, Žižkov. No need for a hospoda then.
I used to have one but even if i still did, i'm not sure i'd get it past airport security :lol:

(Hospoda = pub)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:26 pm

You used to have an AK-47 or a pub? :)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:35 pm

ecc wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:26 pm
You used to have an AK-47 or a pub? :)
ecc, I don't think Zizkov would be taking a pub through airport security
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:07 pm

ecc wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:26 pm
You used to have an AK-47 or a pub? :)
AK47

Kept it in a locker under my bed alongside a tasty shotgun, but came to the conclusion it probably wasn't the best idea, so i gave them up.

If nowt else they ****** my shoulder up, and hip firing the AK was frowned upon in the range "you're not f'ing Rambo" was the phrase i think :lol:

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:08 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:37 pm
That would be the CGS Patrick Cordingly, the army has been set up for COIN ops for around 20 years and has suffered because of this. Warrior upgrade cancelled, CR 3 delays amongst others but the comment I suspect is more related to the announced Cuts rather than Russia.
Sanders not Cordingly no idea why I used that name anyway he made a very interesting speech again today in the Russia conference at the Land Warfare center. The British Army is mobilising not for war but to prevent it, new equipment is to be speeded up we might see movement in CR3 and Ajax etc very soon.

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:34 pm

No explosions in this but if you have 25 minutes to spare to listen to a well informed & grown-up discussion about the war's possible development, geopolitical background/consequences etc, could do worse than giving this a watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6CWXy ... annel4News

The lady being interviewed (Lindsey Hilsum) I've seen on quite a few despatches from Ukraine over the past few months. Whilst she was there she was "in amongst it" and appeared to be very much in with/sympathetic to Ukrainian military & civilians.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:13 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:08 pm
Sanders not Cordingly no idea why I used that name anyway he made a very interesting speech again today in the Russia conference at the Land Warfare center. The British Army is mobilising not for war but to prevent it, new equipment is to be speeded up we might see movement in CR3 and Ajax etc very soon.
The only speeding up of AJAX will be when they bin the whole project!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:25 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:13 pm
The only speeding up of AJAX will be when they bin the whole project!
Ha ha the word I used was movement which from what I read is a very apt one. Yeh probably correct they need to either draw a line or get it all sorted I assume with all he issues I guess you are correct and it will be the former.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by otto1959 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:51 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:25 pm
Ha ha the word I used was movement which from what I read is a very apt one. Yeh probably correct they need to either draw a line or get it all sorted I assume with all he issues I guess you are correct and it will be the former.
Spent too much money on the project to bin it. Was looking at one today vibration a huge problem. I believe the tracks are not aligned correctly.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Belgianclaret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:48 pm
this is mental
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1541 ... 9yKTSziujA
Harrowing... He should be put on trial for that alone :|
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:05 pm

NATO leaders will invite Sweden and Finland to become the 31st and 32nd members of the alliance tomorrow, after Turkey struck a trilateral agreement with the Nordic countries to lift its veto

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:27 am

at the time of me posting this there are unconfirmed reports of explosions at Kursk AFB in Russia
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/15 ... 3az1IlKKVA

and it certainly sounds like a rocket
https://twitter.com/EuropeOsint/status/ ... 3az1IlKKVA

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Tw@ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:40 am

NATO need to start moving into Ukraine now and showing Putin that he cannot carry on with his actions

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:42 am

Oryx reckons Russia have over 800 confirmed tank loses so far
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/statu ... p5_WC-neMQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Tw@ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:46 am

Most of the Russian tanks are scrap metal on wheels, their forces are mainly young conscripts aged around 20 years old, I feel so sorry for there soldiers as they don’t want to be there!
Putin should be hung for the crimes he’s committed!!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 am

another crazy video of Russia's ancient missiles

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:23 am

Analysis of that missile strike in Kremartorsk

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/ ... 1135433730

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:56 am

https://twitter.com/Sam_Cranny/status/1 ... 5189029889

Analysis of the war from RUSI (Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Strategic studies)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:51 pm

REUTERS WORLD: Warsaw hails planned U.S. military base in Poland as clear signal to Russia

https://twitter.com/reutersworld/status ... DAKi9we9Hw

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:09 pm

ROB LEE: Ukraine's Defense Intelligence announced they did a prisoner exchange for 144 Ukrainian soldiers held by Russia, including 95 who were at Azovstal. Most of those exchanged have serious wounds.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1542 ... DAKi9we9Hw

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:24 pm

US increases deployments to Europe, including a permanent base in Poland

https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status ... 0172452868

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:25 pm

REUTERS: NATO invited Sweden and Finland to join the military alliance in one of the biggest shifts in European security in decades after Russia's invasion of Ukraine pushed Helsinki and Stockholm to drop their tradition of neutrality

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1542 ... DAKi9we9Hw

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ecc » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:48 pm
this is mental
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1541 ... 9yKTSziujA
I hadn't watched the video, Vegas, but have just seen it on another site. Was going to post but just double-checked and indeed you'd already linked it.

This, FWIW, is what I'd written for my post.

"WARNING: This video does NOT show horrific images (I'm not into that). But it does show the reality of war.

The video comes from CCTV cameras at a swimming pool close to the shopping centre in Kremenchuk.

It shows the sheer panic of people when the unthinkable occurs.

Makes me want to bloody cry in all senses of the verb."

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