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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Thu May 19, 2022 11:11 am

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/putin-top-com ... 02649.html
Blame game, these generals won't take it lieing down

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 12:45 pm

Unease in Belgorod and collapse of Russian holiday makers to the Crimea

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 1:51 pm

Any students of history will have seen the pics of the carnage after the Falaise Gap in 1944, these pics from the failed Russian crossing at Bilhorivka are very similar

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/15 ... 2118992896
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Thu May 19, 2022 2:51 pm

Here's an interesting but long video of the build up to the war and the start of the war from a young Russian officer's perspective. Filmed with his own phone it seems. Mostly it's before the war. It's a pretty humanizing look at his life. I'm not sure who put the film together but I doubt it was the Russians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZIspwem2s&t=2s

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by LeadBelly » Thu May 19, 2022 3:49 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 2:51 pm
Here's an interesting but long video of the build up to the war and the start of the war from a young Russian officer's perspective. Filmed with his own phone it seems. Mostly it's before the war. It's a pretty humanizing look at his life. I'm not sure who put the film together but I doubt it was the Russians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZIspwem2s&t=2s
I saw the last minute or two of that around 2/3 weeks ago. They said that the Russian who had that on phone had been captured (alive) and that they (Ukrainians) would release more of his recorded footage in due course. Looks like theyve now done that.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Thu May 19, 2022 4:30 pm

There's a video of him being interrogated as well but it's in Russian and the available translation is very bad. Can't make heads or tails of it.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 6:55 pm

NEW YORK TIMES: US Senate agree overwhelmingly to provide further aid to the value of $40b in aid to Ukraine, pushing US aid commitment to Ukraine to $54B in two months.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1527 ... GGw5nF6OPQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 6:58 pm

ROB LEE: Russian spetsaez at Llyich plant in Mariupol

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 7:00 pm

ROB LEE: Failed Russian bridge crossing at Bilohorivka

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1527 ... GGw5nF6OPQ

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Fri May 20, 2022 2:49 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 8:59 pm
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukrainians-e- ... 21749.html
Brilliant.
I suppose if you are sitting on the bike when it's fired it might cure their piles - or cause them.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 9:34 pm

The WEEK UK: Oligarch claims that Putin has blood cancer leaked

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 9:35 pm

ROB LEE: Map of Russian river crossing attempts

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 1:26 pm

NEXTA: A Belarusian pro Ukraine unit to expand to a regiment.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 1:29 pm

Canada sanctions Labedev for his connections to Putin and the KGB, meanwhile he continues to take his seat in the House of Lords

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 1:36 pm

THE TIMES : Fears grow Ukraine works defenders will be treated as “Nazi war criminals” in Russian prison camps.

https://twitter.com/stuartpstevens/stat ... 7_uP69WP3w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Gaia » Sat May 21, 2022 2:28 pm

Dr Olga Onuch, of Manchester uni

It is clear now that Russians will accept a retreat if it framed and presented as a victory in Russia. Putin/ Kremlin can manufacture a “win” just as they manufactured consent for the war. This is what folks still don’t get about Putin’s Russia.
https://twitter.com/oonuch/status/15272 ... N_6NA&s=19

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 2:38 pm

Gaia wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 2:28 pm
Dr Olga Onuch, of Manchester uni

It is clear now that Russians will accept a retreat if it framed and presented as a victory in Russia. Putin/ Kremlin can manufacture a “win” just as they manufactured consent for the war. This is what folks still don’t get about Putin’s Russia.
https://twitter.com/oonuch/status/15272 ... N_6NA&s=19
She’s probably quite right on what Putin would accept, but it is not what the West will accept I suspect. Ukraine have made it clear they want their territory back and the West know any ‘Victory’ for Putin will do nothing to keep the Balkans safe, nothing to prevent Russia rebuilding and launching another conquest.

It has been mentioned a thousand times Putin only respects strength and long term planning… something he believes the West lacks. For long term peace he needs humbling and disabling… It needs to be crystal clear Putin has not won, even to Russians, for future stability.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 11:07 pm

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status ... 6057162755

More on the artillery tracking of both sides

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 1:16 pm

REUTERS: President Zelenskii’s wife gives first interview since the invasion, a rare meeting for the couple

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/152 ... KIuhhXVEBQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 1:27 pm

Something for the "Sanctions are not working" lot to look at

They are, and how

https://twitter.com/RobinBrooksIIF/stat ... 2149985280
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Volvoclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 11:00 am

Any further updates?

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 6:05 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 11:00 am
Any further updates?
Essentially there is heavy fighting in the Donbass, and lines are moving forward very slowly, and both sides are taking heavy losses

Its no clearer than that I'm afraid

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by LeadBelly » Mon May 23, 2022 6:40 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 6:05 pm
Essentially there is heavy fighting in the Donbass, and lines are moving forward very slowly, and both sides are taking heavy losses

Its no clearer than that I'm afraid
Yes, heavy casualties indeed. Zelensky said during a press briefing on May 22 that 50-100 soldiers may be dying every day defending Ukraine in “the most difficult direction,” in the country’s eastern regions.

There's often a decent update on SkyNews by a military analyst (who -to me- seems to know what he's talking about). Today's at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpkXuAL ... el=SkyNews

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 6:49 pm

Good analysis of why Russian local successes are not leading to breakthroughs

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/sta ... 3989660673

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 7:33 pm

Phillips OBrien - not impressed by the BBC’s tone when reporting Ukrainian land stance.

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... Qrrq21KAIQ

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 9:00 pm

ROB LEE: Details events leading to 11 OMON officers refusing to fight once it was revealed they were Ukraine bound.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 12:02 am

Kyiv Independent: Ulkraine’s airforce announce considerable Russian losses May 23

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... os1ig_QtAQ

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 12:15 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 12:02 am
Kyiv Independent: Ulkraine’s airforce announce considerable Russian losses May 23

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... os1ig_QtAQ
Good stuff. 30 vehicles in one day. This level of losses has to start making things very difficult for them.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 1:43 pm

Looks like that the Russians having all their units in the Donbass is having an effect

Sounds like the Russian Plan D encirclement (after the attempts to take Ukraine, take Kiev, and encircle the entire Donbass) of Svierdonestk/Luchyansk is going to succeed

Need a map really, but I can't find one, but its sounds like the only road out is now under artillery fire

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 1:55 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 1:43 pm
Looks like that the Russians having all their units in the Donbass is having an effect

Sounds like the Russian Plan D encirclement (after the attempts to take Ukraine, take Kiev, and encircle the entire Donbass) of Svierdonestk/Luchyansk is going to succeed

Need a map really, but I can't find one, but its sounds like the only road out is now under artillery fire
I haven't really been following the war much recently, Lancaster, but might not this be a good thing?

Might it not enable Putin to tell the Russian public that he had "won " his " special operation", thereby leading to a downscaling of the offensive?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 2:00 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 1:55 pm
I haven't really been following the war much recently, Lancaster, but might not this be a good thing?

Might it not enable Putin to tell the Russian public that he had "won " his " special operation", thereby leading to a downscaling of the offensive?
Well, he's clearly aiming to clear Luhansk and Donestk oblasts so he can do that

I just don't know tbh

If Putin gets any territory out of this, then he's going to regard it as a "win", and he's going to want Ukraine to give up as much as possible

I'm not sure appeasing Putin is the way forward, actually, I'm very sure that appeasing Putin is a really bad idea
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 2:15 pm

This is from late yesterday, and I think its more fluid now because once the initial frontline fortifications have been broken through, then its a lot harder to slow down armour

It will still need a lot of work to seal any encirclement, and even more to actually take the Ukrainian positions, but its still a Russian tactical victory

But it took them 85 days to take Mariupol, and Severedonestk and Luchyamsk will be even more fortified than that



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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 24, 2022 2:23 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:00 pm

I'm not sure appeasing Putin is the way forward, actually, I'm very sure that appeasing Putin is a really bad idea
remember how some of us kept saying that NATO are very weak and should just get the job done........now Putin's forces are incredibly depleted and concentrated in a smaller area would be the perfect time to step up. As you say, there will be no negotiating with him, no way to appease him.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 2:58 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:00 pm
Well, he's clearly aiming to clear Luhansk and Donestk oblasts so he can do that

I just don't know tbh

If Putin gets any territory out of this, then he's going to regard it as a "win", and he's going to want Ukraine to give up as much as possible

I'm not sure appeasing Putin is the way forward, actually, I'm very sure that appeasing Putin is a really bad idea

I know that Ukraine have been training the reserves and would be pushing them forward soon. I wonder if this is a deliberately planned pull back to more defendable positions ready for a another advance from them. Only time will tell

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 4:19 pm

Better map

https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1529114156187938816

I'm not sure, but I'd imagine that Ukraine will have to withdraw from Siversdonestk/Lychansk

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 4:28 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:58 pm
I know that Ukraine have been training the reserves and would be pushing them forward soon. I wonder if this is a deliberately planned pull back to more defendable positions ready for a another advance from them. Only time will tell
No way that Ukraine counter attacks where Russia is both strongest in troops, tanks and artillery, and also has extensive supply network behind the line

Pretty sure those reserves will go to relieve front line units, who will then refit and rest before they become the units that mount the major counter attack

Still think its going to be in the Kharkiv region

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue May 24, 2022 5:02 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:00 pm
Well, he's clearly aiming to clear Luhansk and Donestk oblasts so he can do that

I just don't know tbh

If Putin gets any territory out of this, then he's going to regard it as a "win", and he's going to want Ukraine to give up as much as possible

I'm not sure appeasing Putin is the way forward, actually, I'm very sure that appeasing Putin is a really bad idea

Precisely this. Putin was appeased in 2014, or at least felt little consequence to his actions. Didn’t work out too well. Dictators such as Putin see that as weakness.

That’s not to say NATO getting stuck in (like some voices at the other end of the argument are suggesting) should happen. But maintaining current policies do seem, slowly but surely, to be working.

Putin needs to lose, and to be seen to have lost.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 5:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 4:28 pm
No way that Ukraine counter attacks where Russia is both strongest in troops, tanks and artillery, and also has extensive supply network behind the line

Pretty sure those reserves will go to relieve front line units, who will then refit and rest before they become the units that mount the major counter attack

Still think its going to be in the Kharkiv region
I suspect pulling troops out and seeing the enemy concentrate will not upset Ukraine too much. The opportunity to employ an ever increasing number of drone/missile attacks on concentrated positions must be mouthwatering, and would reserve manpower and fighting strength.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 6:42 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 4:28 pm
No way that Ukraine counter attacks where Russia is both strongest in troops, tanks and artillery, and also has extensive supply network behind the line

Pretty sure those reserves will go to relieve front line units, who will then refit and rest before they become the units that mount the major counter attack

Still think its going to be in the Kharkiv region
My friend seems to think the reserves moving forwards will coincide with another counter attack where I don’t know but let’s see.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 7:34 pm

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/ ... 5391987712

Russia running out of tanks

I'm guessing, and this is only a guess, is that the Russians know this, and are driving much harder at the Ukrainian lines, trying to achieve successes before they are reduced to T-62 tank units (which as the report says, are essentially a death trap in the front line)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 7:49 pm

ROB LEE: Russian Tor air defence around Lyman

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 9:12 pm

ROB LEE: M777 Howitzers arriving in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1529 ... jGbh2hSzbg

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 9:14 pm

NEXTA: EU agree further funding for Ukraine defence, putting their contribution to E2.b

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 9:40 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:34 pm
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/ ... 5391987712

Russia running out of tanks

I'm guessing, and this is only a guess, is that the Russians know this, and are driving much harder at the Ukrainian lines, trying to achieve successes before they are reduced to T-62 tank units (which as the report says, are essentially a death trap in the front line)
Reassuring. My fear was that they’d sent in the old stuff and would then send in the new. Looks like they sent the new stuff in first :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 10:43 pm

Kyiv Independent - Russia claim to have cleared a route for foreign ships to leave Mariupol, with a humanitarian corridor to be opened May 25

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... UvSU5U2d2g

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