S0S-1971 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:16 am
Yes
They are on their way to achieving what they started out wanting to do and have taken large areas of land ( granted it’s taken a long time to achieve ) , surely you can see this ?
The United states giving Ukraine long range weapons will obviously escalate matters so all parties need to get around the table sharpish before we truly enter a global war .
I fully appreciate that it’s already a proxy war .
They are nowhere near achieving what they set out to do - take charge of Kiev and install a puppet regime that would basically annex Ukraine (and its resources) for the benefit of Russia.
They have hugely lost face by not being able to overcome Ukraine forces and latterly by it being shown that their weaponry is considerably inferior to western weaponry. (their arms sales and influence around the world will suffer consequently)
They've lost power on the periphery of their sphere of influence - look at Armenia now.
They've driven more countries towards NATO and made NATO stronger (more members on Russia's borders + greater arms spend commitment).
Their energy sales to Europe have been hit (and it will remain so in the medium term at least).
I doubt they'll escalate matters militarily to come into conflict with NATO given they are now well aware that NATO has superior weaponry.
Apart from all that-obviously a great move by Putin and cronies..
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