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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:57 am

Falcon wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:21 am
Any idea what date they will join?
Been ratified by all NATO members so I would say that technically they are in NATO

You have to remember that they have been allied partners of NATO for a fair few years as well, so the only change I suspect is that you will see Finnish troops, ships and aircraft in NATO battlegroups throughout Europe

The fact that they felt sufficiently alarmed by Russian actions (and their history with them being less than stellar!) to do this just highlights both how much Putin overreached and NATO opinion of Russian strengths and weaknesses

Essentially Russia cannot do anything about this, and hasn't been able to do for a while, but by invading Ukraine they have told everyone that they don't care if they can't actually do stuff, they are willing to do it anyway

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by yTib » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:00 pm

Pendle Bella wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:46 am
Is Nato really a defensive alliance?

https://www.royalgazette.com/letters-to ... -alliance/

Worth a read.
nothing you've ever posted on here is worth a read bluelabradonkey.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:48 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html

Both Turkey and Hungary were obstacles to Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Sweden still isn't agreed.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:13 am
I don't understand what he was exposed for?

As far as I can see Sarah Ashton is exposing him for not being contracted to the Ukraine Armed Forces.

Do foreign volunteers need to be contracted? Can they not just travel over and create their own small group of fighters with other volunteers and locals?
He was doing videos of him being in combat, pretending to be an active soldier and getting people to donate hundreds of thousands pounds . When he was never in combat.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:39 pm

I'm loving the idea that the Ukrainian Armed forces just let volunteers run around shooting at Russians whenever they feel like it

They essentially join the AFU as regular military units

You can't run an army any other way, the Russians are proving with Wagner

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:01 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:23 pm
He was doing videos of him being in combat, pretending to be an active soldier and getting people to donate hundreds of thousands pounds . When he was never in combat.
but he was in combat (there's footage of that) just not as a registered soldier for the Ukrainian Army, right? I did a little reading and saw he never claimed to be apart of the official army. I wasn't sure how that works, can volunteers just form their own small group and fight without registering as an official soldier? i'm not sure how that would work logistically with coordinated military attacks but I assume Ukraine were desperate for all 18+ year old men to stay and pick up a gun.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:39 pm
I'm loving the idea that the Ukrainian Armed forces just let volunteers run around shooting at Russians whenever they feel like it

They essentially join the AFU as regular military units

You can't run an army any other way, the Russians are proving with Wagner
Well the Azov Battalion and Da Vinci Wolves were not part of the official armed forces at one stage, just volunteer units.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:09 pm

Russian war blogger killed in explosion in St Petersburg cafe:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65155075

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:24 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:03 pm
Well the Azov Battalion and Da Vinci Wolves were not part of the official armed forces at one stage, just volunteer units.
They operated under the C & C of the Ukrainian Armed Forces though

I don't know what the crack was pre-2014, but the evolution of the AFU to an essentially NATO trained formation hasn't happened overnight but it has happened with great success

Russia is fighting this war with questionable tactics and certainly non-military objectives but it still had a lot of (in theory) capable troops and equipment but even so

Pretty impressive to see
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by AmbleClaret » Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:09 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:09 pm
Russian war blogger killed in explosion in St Petersburg cafe:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65155075
Handy that.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:10 pm

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/stat ... 0863395847

Finland to officially join NATO tomorrow

The complete strategic failure of Russian policy is clear for all to see
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:42 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:10 pm
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/stat ... 0863395847

Finland to officially join NATO tomorrow

The complete strategic failure of Russian policy is clear for all to see
Huge dub.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:10 pm
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/stat ... 0863395847

Finland to officially join NATO tomorrow

The complete strategic failure of Russian policy is clear for all to see
Unless you live in Russia.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:58 pm

https://twitter.com/InfoAgeStrategy/sta ... 12C7A&s=19

Interesting opinion on China/Russia.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:08 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:58 pm
https://twitter.com/InfoAgeStrategy/sta ... 12C7A&s=19

Interesting opinion on China/Russia.
Absolutely Chine is thinking of invading Russia. It’s so weak now.

The first thing the Chinese leader did was invite the leaders of the stans countries on the borders to come to China.

They have oil and gas controlled by Russia or they defect to China .

Be an interesting year

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:13 pm

Guys, the same reason that Ukraine isn't going to invade Russia is exactly the same why China isn't going to attack Russia

I'm sure China would love to get their hands on the "Northern Resource Area" but they don't have to

Russia has handed China economic dominance of itself by buying heavily discounted Russian oil, while the performance and attitude of Russia in Ukraine has the stans really worried and ready to look elsewhere for support and help, and the longer the war goes on, the more reliant Russia will be on that market

its not just the NATO expansion that Russia has totally strategically lost, its the battle for influence on its southern border as well

And what have they got instead?

Some expressions of support from Africa and thats it

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:16 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:13 pm
Guys, the same reason that Ukraine isn't going to invade Russia is exactly the same why China isn't going to attack Russia

I'm sure China would love to get their hands on the "Northern Resource Area" but they don't have to

Russia has handed China economic dominance of itself by buying heavily discounted Russian oil, while the performance and attitude of Russia in Ukraine has the stans really worried and ready to look elsewhere for support and help, and the longer the war goes on, the more reliant Russia will be on that market

its not just the NATO expansion that Russia has totally strategically lost, its the battle for influence on its southern border as well

And what have they got instead?

Some expressions of support from Africa and thats it
#disagree The

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:34 pm

China doesn't have to attack Russia.
They could retake that land via negotiations and agreements etc.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by SocialistClaret » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:54 pm

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by yTib » Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:01 pm

a strange part of me thinks putin wanted this all along.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by simonclaret » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:10 pm

An interesting insight into Putin's paranoia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... cret-train

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Here's-Johnny » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:27 pm

simonclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:10 pm
An interesting insight into Putin's paranoia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... cret-train
Id guess most World leaders are looking over there shoulder at some point not that unusual.

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:21 pm

simonclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:10 pm
An interesting insight into Putin's paranoia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... cret-train
This guy’s gonna spend his life looking over his shoulder that’s for sure.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:26 am

The story of the 331st Guards Parachute Regiment:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65179074

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am

It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:28 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Hopefully when it starts we'll know nothing about it. The biggest weapon is surprise.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:55 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Russia isn't going anywhere and its winter offensive with 300,000 extra troops has not achieved what they wanted/needed

Ukraine will attack when it is the perfect time (the leak of US papers from the Pentagon shows just how much they know about the Russian military situation and its all going to Ukraine) for it

End of the month?
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:58 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Not much. A kind of eerie silence before a storm perhaps?

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgr ... ril-8-2023
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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:23 am

https://twitter.com/pjasinski/status/16 ... 5820926977

British soldiers saluting Ukrainian troops who have completed their training and are heading back to the front

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:23 am
https://twitter.com/pjasinski/status/16 ... 5820926977

British soldiers saluting Ukrainian troops who have completed their training and are heading back to the front
Very moving.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:28 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:23 am
https://twitter.com/pjasinski/status/16 ... 5820926977

British soldiers saluting Ukrainian troops who have completed their training and are heading back to the front
Wathgill Camp, just a few miles from home. I hadn't realised they were training there.
Good luck, and success to all of them.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:13 am

BBC News - Ukraine war: Leak shows Western special forces on the ground
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Elbarad » Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:41 am

There is a video going around supposedly taken by Russians of them cutting the head off a live Ukrainian POW. I have not seen it by choice but supposedly it is all over telegram. War is by it’s very nature brutal but this is barbarism.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Goalposts » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:48 pm

Elbarad wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:41 am
There is a video going around supposedly taken by Russians of them cutting the head off a live Ukrainian POW. I have not seen it by choice but supposedly it is all over telegram. War is by it’s very nature brutal but this is barbarism.
It’s been geoconfirmed as Wagner forces and there are two UKR soilders who they behead. Genuinely horrific on an isis scale.. its possible that as its Wagner putin may use it as leverage to arrest those Wagner involved.. but in truth that’s what happens when rapists , murderers , and total physcopaths are recruited from prisons and mental institutions…

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by SocialistClaret » Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:12 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:48 pm
It’s been geoconfirmed as Wagner forces and there are two UKR soilders who they behead. Genuinely horrific on an isis scale.. its possible that as its Wagner putin may use it as leverage to arrest those Wagner involved.. but in truth that’s what happens when rapists , murderers , and total physcopaths are recruited from prisons and mental institutions…
Russia's been isis-like for a long time. Long before this war. What we saw from them though was a Christian version of isis not at war. Now they're warring we see the same ****.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:44 pm

Can we keep it to the specific Ukraine invasion topic, elements attempting to divert to other areas will get it locked.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:45 pm

Well done Mods 👍

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:23 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:13 am
BBC News - Ukraine war: Leak shows Western special forces on the ground
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065
I did mention this, post xmas after speaking to people with family serving.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Zom Zom » Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:04 pm

I just wish we could bring this to an end. I'm not into the politics of it all, I wouldn't know where to begin, but how far does this have to go? How extreme does it need to be before the rest of the world says 'That's enough'?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:07 pm

Zom Zom wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:04 pm
I just wish we could bring this to an end. I'm not into the politics of it all, I wouldn't know where to begin, but how far does this have to go? How extreme does it need to be before the rest of the world says 'That's enough'?
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:32 pm

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/border-panic- ... 37574.html
I should imagine the border is very porous in places.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:54 pm

Zom Zom wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:04 pm
I just wish we could bring this to an end. I'm not into the politics of it all, I wouldn't know where to begin, but how far does this have to go? How extreme does it need to be before the rest of the world says 'That's enough'?
Quite liking the idea that someone can tell Putin what to do

Of course it should end right now, but that would involve Russia admitting that it can't win, or Ukraine surrendering and we are all back to square one waiting for Russia to attack someone else

Neither look likely at the moment

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Pendle Bella » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 pm

The war in Ukraine was planned by the United States/Uk/Nato well before any Russian boot stepped over the border in 2022!

Please tell what country Russia are planning to pop into next.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by ClaretLoup » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:24 pm

Just to update you on a bit of history . Russian boots stepped over the border in 2014 when they invaded Crimea and assisted separatist movements in Eastern Ukraine.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by box_of_frogs » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:38 pm

I see the Russian bot is back.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by SocialistClaret » Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:26 am

It's amazing how everything Russia does is always America's fault. Russia amassed over a hundred thousand troops on Ukraine's border throughout the 2021-22 winter and then launched an invasion in Feb 2022 all because of the United States. They annexed Crimea and attempted to assassinate at least two of Ukraine's leaders all because the United States made them do it.

Maybe it's all mind control and Putin is secretly being controlled by the CIA, and probably Israel somehow. It's always the jews somehow too, right Bella? They did 9/11 too you know. And they got us relegated last year. Probably. I dunno, ask Pendle Bella. They'll explain.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Enola Gay » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:14 am

Pendle Bella wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 pm
The war in Ukraine was planned by the United States/Uk/Nato well before any Russian boot stepped over the border in 2022!

Please tell what country Russia are planning to pop into next.
So what you're really saying is... Russia are f******g stupid enough to fall for anyone else's sh*t?

на хуй, дурак...

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Robbie_painter » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:23 am

Pendle Bella wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 pm
The war in Ukraine was planned by the United States/Uk/Nato well before any Russian boot stepped over the border in 2022!

Please tell what country Russia are planning to pop into next.
Literally skipped to the last page on this thread and happened upon this little gem.It’s unreal to think people actually think this ****.
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