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Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 9:33 pm
by Lancasterclaret
There is a telegram post on Rob Lees twitter feed with the grim reality of what happens to the crew when a Russian BMP explodes
For the all the pyrotechnics and explosions, each and every one of them means more people have died, and we have to keep that in mind
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:20 pm
by bfcjg
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 11:20 pm
by NewClaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 11:53 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Scrolling down that feed there is a story on Macron, who I have always despised , asking Zelensky to makes concessions of territory to Russia, so that Putin can save face. The bloke is a complete arse.
Also disappointed that the story of his cowardly suggestion isn't being reported, and condemned on the main news channels.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:17 am
by Taffy on the wing
Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:53 pm
Scrolling down that feed there is a story on Macron, who I have always despised , asking Zelensky to makes concessions of territory to Russia, so that Putin can save face. The bloke is a complete arse.
Also disappointed that the story of his cowardly suggestion isn't being reported, and condemned on the main news channels.
Absolutely agree with you.....someone needs to look at Mr Macrons bank accounts, especially the offshore ones.......What a tosser he is! He's been saying this consistently from the start & meeting with Putin etc
Giving the French a bad name .....as if they need any help.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 8:05 am
by Lowbankclaret
Interest thread to read on the failed river crossings.
https://twitter.com/warinthefuture/stat ... ncLUBxMHtg
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:05 am
by bfcjg
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The more I read about Zelensky the more I admire him
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:57 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
President of Finland rang Putin directly to let him know Finland is planning on joining NATO....
Putin is, of course, apoplectic with rage about that one
Also the threat to switch off electricity supplies to Finland from Russia isn't such a big deal as I've seen reports it's only 10% of what Finland use.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:08 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:53 pm
Scrolling down that feed there is a story on Macron, who I have always despised , asking Zelensky to makes concessions of territory to Russia, so that Putin can save face. The bloke is a complete arse.
Also disappointed that the story of his cowardly suggestion isn't being reported, and condemned on the main news channels.
Again, and trying not to sound like I like Macron ( I don't)
There is nothing wrong with exploring options for peace, because every day there isn't peace, then more people die
Macron talked to Putin for an hour last week, and I assume he got enough encouragement to think there was something worth mentioning to Zelensky
He did, Zelensky said no, and thats it
Also not widely reported as well is that the American and Russian chiefs of staff had an hour long conversation as well
As long as the peace lines are kept open, there is always a chance
But I completely agree that Zelensky and Ukraine should have a veto on any territorial concessions unless they agree to it
Day 80 of the "Two day special operation" btw
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:47 pm
by Colburn_Claret
I've never said that they shouldn't explore options for peace, but Macron was out of line in putting that suggestion to Ukraine.
Firstly it isn't his territory to offer, would he be willing to cede French territory in order to appease a tyrant like Putin, I don't think so.
More importantly, it sends the wrong message to Moscow. It gives Putin the belief that the West will cave in, eventually, and plead with Zelensky to take a deal that suits him, rather than one that suits Ukraine. That belief is more likely to prolong the conflict, rather than shorten it.
Macron should have told Putin that he cannot see Ukraine being willing to accept that. That no one else would be willing to accept that. That he would be too embarrassed to even suggest it to Zelensky. Finally that the West are united behind Ukraines fight for freedom.
If Macron wants to shorten this war, then he needs to make his mate Putin understand, that he has made a massive miscalculation, and the only way he can put it right is by accepting, and taking ownership of that mistake.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:17 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 3:47 pm
I've never said that they shouldn't explore options for peace, but Macron was out of line in putting that suggestion to Ukraine.
Firstly it isn't his territory to offer, would he be willing to cede French territory in order to appease a tyrant like Putin, I don't think so.
More importantly, it sends the wrong message to Moscow. It gives Putin the belief that the West will cave in, eventually, and plead with Zelensky to take a deal that suits him, rather than one that suits Ukraine. That belief is more likely to prolong the conflict, rather than shorten it.
Macron should have told Putin that he cannot see Ukraine being willing to accept that. That no one else would be willing to accept that. That he would be too embarrassed to even suggest it to Zelensky. Finally that the West are united behind Ukraines fight for freedom.
If Macron wants to shorten this war, then he needs to make his mate Putin understand, that he has made a massive miscalculation, and the only way he can put it right is by accepting, and taking ownership of that mistake.
Again, you are thinking that he's ceding Ukrainian territory to Putin
He's not, he's exploring avenues for peace, and what works for Russia, and then seeing if that works for Ukraine
Thats how you stop wars
If he was having a press conference stating that Ukraine is the reason there is still fighting, as Russia only wants the Donbass you would have a point
But he's not, he's sanctioning Russian oligarchs, sending long range Artillery to Ukraine and participating the the bans of Russian oil and gas
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 5:25 pm
by jos
NEXTA:
The occupants planted a grenade in the piano of a ten-year-old girl from Bucha
When the family returned to the liberated city, the girl's mother noticed that the awards on the piano were in the wrong order. Looking inside, the parents found the grenade and called the bomb squad.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/152 ... 81889?s=21
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 7:01 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 4:17 pm
Again, you are thinking that he's ceding Ukrainian territory to Putin
He's not, he's exploring avenues for peace, and what works for Russia, and then seeing if that works for Ukraine
Thats how you stop wars
If he was having a press conference stating that Ukraine is the reason there is still fighting, as Russia only wants the Donbass you would have a point
But he's not, he's sanctioning Russian oligarchs, sending long range Artillery to Ukraine and participating the the bans of Russian oil and gas
My thoughts on this.
Putin is like a spoilt brat.
Whilst all these leaders keep ringing him, it feeds his self importance and his belief he has the upper hand in negotiations.
They should all stop talking to him, it would drive him crazy being ignored. He would be stomping around like tantruming like a two year old.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 8:55 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 7:01 pm
My thoughts on this.
Putin is like a spoilt brat.
Whilst all these leaders keep ringing him, it feeds his self importance and his belief he has the upper hand in negotiations.
They should all stop talking to him, it would drive him crazy being ignored. He would be stomping around like tantruming like a two year old.
But also a guarantee that the war continues, and more people die
We are playing this right everyone, its just a matter of time
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:33 am
by Lancasterclaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:27 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Latest map, Ukraine taking more ground. Russia losing more kit each day.
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Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:31 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Clearly planned, but this is a Ukrainian territorial defense Battalion at the Russian border near Kharkiv
Not regular troops, volunteers, and they have pushed the Russians back to the border
https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1 ... 2222316545
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:47 am
by Lowbankclaret
I did see that yesterday, looks well staged. There was also thread about Russian troops who had been driven back to the border, but Russia would not let them in.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:43 am
by bfcjg
Russia still threatening Sweden,Finland, Poland etc. etc, they are behaving like the school bully getting absolutely beaten to sh1t by the small kid they picked on but whilst being hammered to the ground shouting threats along the lines of this is what you are facing. Pathetic, they have lost all credibility and are no longer a conventional threat.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:44 pm
by elwaclaret
NEW YORK TIMES: editorial of Sweden and Finland’s move to join NATO.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1526 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:46 pm
by elwaclaret
BBC WS: India ban wheat exports due to failed harvest, adding to pressure on wheat prices already so hard hit by Putin’s War
https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/152 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:50 pm
by elwaclaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:14 pm
by elwaclaret
BBC WS: McDonald’s has announced it has quit Russia and will not return when the war ends, ending a thirty year association. The opening of the first McD’s was a major signal of Glasnost.
https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/152 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:17 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Being reported that the Russians are killing their own wounded
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:19 pm
by elwaclaret
Russian Reaction to Finland and Swdwn’s NATO request: Do the Nordic states want things to heat up?
https://twitter.com/kama_kamilia/status ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:32 pm
by elwaclaret
REUTERS: Sanctions failing as Ruble continues to rise against Euro on the back of Oil and gas super-profits.
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1526 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:35 pm
by elwaclaret
REUTERS: EU urge Hungary to agree to sign up to Russian oil embargo
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1526 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:55 pm
by elwaclaret
ROB LEE: Russian strikes on Ukrainian position around Zolote
https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1526 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:58 pm
by elwaclaret
NEXTA: She’ll stop selling fuel but continue to run convenience shops and cafe facilities for Russians.
https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1526 ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:03 pm
by Firthy
No surprise there. The only sanctions that will really cripple is a total ban on oil and gas exports but while you have the likes of Germany that can't survive without it and India prepared to buy as much cheap oil and gas as they can get from Russia then other imposed sanctions will take too long to have an effect on them. Hard to believe that we actually give monetary aid to a country like India who buy cheap gas and oil at the expense of Ukraine then ban exports of wheat. We're alright jack so F**k you.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:12 pm
by elwaclaret
Moscow rebrand of McDonald’s suffers technical setback
https://twitter.com/jason_corcoran/stat ... WfK1VTrcBQ
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:13 pm
by RicardoMontalban
Sure someone (possibly Lancaster) posted a thread last week that suggested this apparent resurgence of the ruble shouldn’t necessarily be taken as a failure of sanctions. The Russian govt will be doing everything to support its value right now and that will undoubtedly have knock on effects elsewhere. There’s going to be plenty of pain down the line, whether that’s ultimately regarded as ‘effective’ only time will tell but the Russian economy is currently very exposed.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:14 pm
by elwaclaret
ROB LEE: Ukraine assault on Russian position in Kharkiv Oblast
https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1526 ... N_BtipFBKg
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:17 pm
by Lancasterclaret
RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:13 pm
Sure someone (possibly Lancaster) posted a thread last week that suggested this apparent resurgence of the ruble shouldn’t necessarily be taken as a failure of sanctions. The Russian govt will be doing everything to support its value right now and that will undoubtedly have knock on effects elsewhere. There’s going to be plenty of pain down the line, whether that’s ultimately regarded as ‘effective’ only time will tell but the Russian economy is currently very exposed.
Yeah, it was me
Russia is pumping up the value of the rouble to say that sanctions aren't working, while the short, medium and long term damage continues to have serious effects to the Russian economy and war effort
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:17 pm
by elwaclaret
PHILLIPS-OBrien - US backs Ukraine ‘end game’ with all regions returned to Ukraine (including Crimea), suggesting they believe the war has turned/is about to turn in Ukraines favour.
https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... N_BtipFBKg
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:23 pm
by Lancasterclaret
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1526164608238624769
Russian acknowledgement of their losses (v similar to what is being reported by Oryx)
Staggering
Very noticeable that the Russians are handing out medals to Generals sons who lose half their tank strength in three weeks
That kind of thing isn't the sign of a military that is able to do the job its supposed to do
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:28 pm
by elwaclaret
RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:13 pm
Sure someone (possibly Lancaster) posted a thread last week that suggested this apparent resurgence of the ruble shouldn’t necessarily be taken as a failure of sanctions. The Russian govt will be doing everything to support its value right now and that will undoubtedly have knock on effects elsewhere. There’s going to be plenty of pain down the line, whether that’s ultimately regarded as ‘effective’ only time will tell but the Russian economy is currently very exposed.
Absolutely, but it is being very effective short term in hiding the hardship from the populace, meaning the pressure is not yet being felt among the populace; who will ultimately have to undermine Putin.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:28 pm
by RicardoMontalban
If those are the losses from the better trained and equipped formations, what must the losses be like as the dross gets sent in?
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:45 pm
by RicardoMontalban
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:28 pm
Absolutely, but it is being very effective short term in hiding the hardship from the populace, meaning the pressure is not yet being felt among the populace; who will ultimately have to undermine Putin.
True, and it’s a fairly well debated point on just how effective sanctions as a weapon really are. What’s to be considered are the aims of the sanctions, are they to drive a population to destabilise the establishment to change course? Or to effect economic pressure that will have a long term degrading effect on the target?
I would suggest here it’s the latter. Putin will have foreseen sanctions of some sort, factored them in to his thinking and gone in with the aim of getting it done before any real damage is done, and international ‘prestige’ intact. Now that seems to have absolutely not happened but given the extent of social control in Russia, civil destabilisation, certainly within a 3/4 month period was probably never the expectation.
However the long term impact of these sanctions, coupled with the very public failure of Putin’s imperial ambitions here, will hobble Russia for many years.
It’s been done to death here but I don’t think sanctions on gas and oil were ever realistic in the short term.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:50 pm
by elwaclaret
THE WEEK: Looking at the ‘surprising resilient’ Ruble, and the possible catastrophe it may spell long term for Russia.
https://twitter.com/theweekuk/status/15 ... N_BtipFBKg
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 2:55 pm
by elwaclaret
RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:45 pm
True, and it’s a fairly well debated point on just how effective sanctions as a weapon really are. What’s to be considered are the aims of the sanctions, are they to drive a population to destabilise the establishment to change course? Or to effect economic pressure that will have a long term degrading effect on the target?
I would suggest here it’s the latter. Putin will have foreseen sanctions of some sort, factored them in to his thinking and gone in with the aim of getting it done before any real damage is done, and international ‘prestige’ intact. Now that seems to have absolutely not happened but given the extent of social control in Russia, civil destabilisation, certainly within a 3/4 month period was probably never the expectation.
However the long term impact of these sanctions, coupled with the very public failure of Putin’s imperial ambitions here, will hobble Russia for many years.
It’s been done to death here but I don’t think sanctions on gas and oil were ever realistic in the short term.
Agree, cutting the nose to spite the face springs to mind. However, the impact of the war has underlined Western hopes for a small world global economy was hugely flawed… it only works if everyone buys into it. Fuel self sufficiency was something warned about, but largely ignored. Now energy self sufficiency is seen as a must by developed nations, Russia’s long term forecast is bleak indeed.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:04 pm
by RicardoMontalban
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:55 pm
Agree, cutting the nose to spite the face springs to mind. However, the impact of the war has underlined Western hopes for a small world global economy was hugely flawed… it only works if everyone buys into it. Fuel self sufficiency was something warned about, but largely ignored. Now energy self sufficiency is seen as a must by developed nations, Russia’s long term forecast is bleak indeed.
Absolutely. There’s a nuance that’s been missed in globalisation, like you say, if everyone is broadly singing from the same hymn sheet then it’s all groovy. But it seldom works that way.
As an aside….the fuel self-sufficiency, it’s something that really should be a bigger topic in climate change discussion and maybe a way of getting some more reluctant countries on board. Security: and it’s been highlighted on a couple of things in Ukraine, not just fuel, but agriculture.
But that’s probably for another thread.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:04 pm
by Lancasterclaret
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:55 pm
Agree, cutting the nose to spite the face springs to mind. However, the impact of the war has underlined Western hopes for a small world global economy was hugely flawed… it only works if everyone buys into it. Fuel self sufficiency was something warned about, but largely ignored. Now energy self sufficiency is seen as a must by developed nations, Russia’s long term forecast is bleak indeed.
Well no, its just becomes economically dependent on China and India
I'd suggest they would much prefer to be economically dependent on India, who won't have designs on Russian territory
China is a completely different matter
But I'm not sure Russia under a failing Putin will recognise the danger
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:21 pm
by RicardoMontalban
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:04 pm
Well no, its just becomes economically dependent on China and India
I'd suggest they would much prefer to be economically dependent on India, who won't have designs on Russian territory
China is a completely different matter
But I'm not sure Russia under a failing Putin will recognise the danger
The thing to watch for there is the less than fantastic relationship between India and China.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:25 pm
by Lancasterclaret
RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:21 pm
The thing to watch for there is the less than fantastic relationship between India and China.
Yeah
India will be always need the oil and gas, but how can Russia get it there cheaper than they can get it from the Gulf?
Answer, they can't
What they need a huge market right on their doorstep that they could undercut the Gulf states and other suppliers, with a network of pipelines and a rock solid economy
Course, they thought they could have that while invading other European countries, and it turns out that they fundamentally miscalculated on every level, and are going to pay a horrific price
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:31 pm
by Lancasterclaret
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status ... 2096548864
Putin has no problem with Finland and Sweden joining NATO, as he has "no problem with either country"
The issue will be where NATO infrastructure goes
Course, he was hopping mad last week about it so its very unlikely he's realised that he can do nothing about it or that its 100% his own fault
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:01 pm
by Lowbankclaret
RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 2:13 pm
Sure someone (possibly Lancaster) posted a thread last week that suggested this apparent resurgence of the ruble shouldn’t necessarily be taken as a failure of sanctions. The Russian govt will be doing everything to support its value right now and that will undoubtedly have knock on effects elsewhere. There’s going to be plenty of pain down the line, whether that’s ultimately regarded as ‘effective’ only time will tell but the Russian economy is currently very exposed.
Oil and Gas profits are at the highest level for years across the globe. That’s holding up the Ruble.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:16 pm
by Lowbankclaret
RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:04 pm
Absolutely. There’s a nuance that’s been missed in globalisation, like you say, if everyone is broadly singing from the same hymn sheet then it’s all groovy. But it seldom works that way.
As an aside….the fuel self-sufficiency, it’s something that really should be a bigger topic in climate change discussion and maybe a way of getting some more reluctant countries on board. Security: and it’s been highlighted on a couple of things in Ukraine, not just fuel, but agriculture.
But that’s probably for another thread.
It’s going to be difficult to be independent in agriculture, when we are using loads of our land for building new houses.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:47 pm
by Lowbankclaret
An interesting thread, taken from. A Russian reporter, I think against the war.
https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/15 ... e-dAGFZhEg
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:50 pm
by RicardoMontalban
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:16 pm
It’s going to be difficult to be independent in agriculture, when we are using loads of our land for building new houses.
But resources and where you get them from are absolutely going to be a security issue going forward.
If not self sufficiency, which is more achievable with energy, then dependency needs to be addressed. What % of grain supply does Ukraine account for? Think it’s the second highest in Europe after everyone’s favourite, Russia. What effect does the recent developments in India have on that matter?
That was the point I was cackhandedly trying to make.