AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:48 pm

You really think there’s not just as many vids of UKR’s military captured /blown apart / broken and demoralised? Posting this sort of content along with vids of blowing up tanks /soldiers etc from either side is the ultimate voyeurs cowardice . There’s no winners in this conflict , though perhaps a bit of common decency rather than gloating over captured terrified simpletons would be more appropriate ?

It's topical though,but hey have invaded Ukraine,Putin has sent Canon fodder,if Ukraine showing them so what ? It demoralised the Russians and makes the Ukrainians realise they can defeat the invaders.

Then (above) and below (now)

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1594479817948282880


Nothing changes - fighting in the November mud in Ukraine is next to impossible for non-tracked vehicles

Suspect this month will involve not a lot of movement unless the mud freezes

If that had tractor type tyres (with 'V's on) it might well get through that mud with it's four wheel drive.

Hipper wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:13 pm

If that had tractor type tyres (with 'V's on) it might well get through that mud with it's four wheel drive.

Should have chains as well

But the point doesn't change, its going to be hard logistically to supply, especially if you've already suffered catastrophic losses to your supply chain mechanism

Hope none of the HIMARS are risked in such muddy circumstances as they would be sitting ducks for the Russian artillery or drones.

Some insight as to why the Russian early advances failed.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/russian-force ... 00876.html

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/stat ... 6026112000

More Russian TV debate

Worth a listen, as its clear that the presenter is articulating the hard line loved by the more extreme in Russia, but he's being taken apart by the more moderate members of the panel

They wouldn't do that if they weren't allowed to, so you can read this as Russia is as aware of the dangers of nukes and is beginning to realise that it is alone

I think this a very good sign and provides a potential pathway to a settlement, but (as stated at the time) Putin signing regions he never controlled into the Russian constitution complicates it a lot.

No doubt the arms manufacturers are hoping this war goes on for a long, long time. It’s all a bit sick isn’t it.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:29 pm

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/stat ... 6026112000

More Russian TV debate

Worth a listen, as its clear that the presenter is articulating the hard line loved by the more extreme in Russia, but he's being taken apart by the more moderate members of the panel

They wouldn't do that if they weren't allowed to, so you can read this as Russia is as aware of the dangers of nukes and is beginning to realise that it is alone

I think this a very good sign and provides a potential pathway to a settlement, but (as stated at the time) Putin signing regions he never controlled into the Russian constitution complicates it a lot.

That's a positive. Then on the other hand it seems that Prigozhin and his Wagner Group are becoming more powerful and might one day be able to move Putin aside if it suits him.

If mud does start to become an issue then I can see the UK letting the Ukrainians having some of our Vikings (the older less powerful models if any still exist) and of course they would be ideal for river crossing.

Corky wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:30 pm

If mud does start to become an issue then I can see the UK letting the Ukrainians having some of our Vikings (the older less powerful models if any still exist) and of course they would be ideal for river crossing.

Mud is already an issue, seen several videos already. It’s also snowing and freezing at night. Frost bite will be the next problems.

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/159 ... J4vKsECylg

Winter is here.

Here’s the mud.

https://twitter.com/militarylandnet/sta ... J4vKsECylg

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:07 pm

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/159 ... J4vKsECylg

Winter is here.

these lads n lasses are hard as nails, I've nothing but admiration for them

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-launc ... 51686.html
More Ukraine advances

That's promising. It could get them in a position to moves eastwards and then presumably push the ruskies North/East including up the left river bank.

NEXTA: Elected president of Belarus Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya took part in the Public Policy Forum in Ottawa.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/159 ... HE6U2Tqf6Q

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee1/stat ... ojifQ&s=19
German Air defence given to Ukraine shootingbdown a Russian plane.

KYIV INDEPENDENT: Interior Ministry: Russian forces kidnap Ukrainian mayors in Kherson Oblast.

Russian troops have kidnapped the mayors of several communities in Kherson Oblast and brought them to the east bank of the Dnipro River, the Interior Ministry reported on Nov. 22.

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... HE6U2Tqf6Q

murderous, torturing ********, 2022, and we are seeing the same things as in previous hideous times. we never learn.

Couple of updates, I reckon if there is another call up the Russians will revolt.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/russian-regio ... 53130.html
More evidence of the sub human barbaric species that are the Russian military commanders and Putins elite, a maternity hospital FFS.
BBC News - Ukraine war: Fresh strikes reported in capital Kyiv
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63729427

Russia targeting civilian infrastructure is essentially their tactics which they still use in Syria

Now they will probably think as they managed to help Assad recover from certain defeat to a never ending civil war, that counts as a win

Very unlikely that such tactics will work in Ukraine though, and it is a waste of Russia diminishing stockpiles of modern weaponry

OSINT Technical: Captured Russian 1V-series (probably 1V14) artillery fire control center, Kherson Oblast.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... qsbiKWEqKA

NEXTA: A fire broke out in Kherson after shelling. A residential building is on fire.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/159 ... qsbiKWEqKA

NEW VOICE OF UKRAINE: “After another Russian missile strike, I asked Germany to transfer the Patriot systems offered to Poland to Ukraine and deploy them on its western border,” Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak said

https://twitter.com/newvoiceukraine/sta ... qsbiKWEqKA

NEXTA: The head of the National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, confirmed the deaths of Iranian instructors who were training Russians to work with drones in annexed Crimea.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/159 ... qsbiKWEqKA

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/wagner-group- ... 49994.html
Charming bunch.

KYIV Independent: Ireland, Romania, Moldova recognize Holodomor as genocide against Ukrainian people.

“A truly historic decision was made by the Senate of Ireland, recognizing the Holodomor in Ukraine as genocide on the Ukrainian people,” the Embassy of Ukraine to Ireland said on Nov. 24.

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... qsbiKWEqKA

It’s not even winter yet and Russian soldiers are suffering.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/159 ... hwrJbS8Sww

https://twitter.com/warnerta/status/159 ... hwrJbS8Sww

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:01 am

It’s not even winter yet and Russian soldiers are suffering.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/159 ... hwrJbS8Sww

https://twitter.com/warnerta/status/159 ... hwrJbS8Sww

I didn't want to see the 2nd one again because its too distressing

The complete lack of training evident in that photo is stark, and I hope that I'm still around when Putin and his cronies get their just desserts for allowing that to happen

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:32 pm

I didn't want to see the 2nd one again because its too distressing

The complete lack of training evident in that photo is stark, and I hope that I'm still around when Putin and his cronies get their just desserts for allowing that to happen

Several commentators are saying they must be suffering from hypothermia. That’s why they don’t react.

It’s only getting colder from now on.

I have slept in my fishing bivvy in under zero temps with a 5 season sleeping bag and was still cold. At least I was dry and could make hot drink in the morning. I cannot even imagine how bad it must be to cold and wet with no cover over you.

Poor sods are going to freeze to death next month.

It's being reported that 2 million Russians could be mobilised in the new year

What do we think is Putin's end game now? To take the areas he thinks are his and not stop until that's accepted by everyone else, and to do that just bomb Ukraine until they give in? It's all just so pointless, i can't get my head around a supposed civilised European state doing this to what should be their brothers and sisters.

Jellybean wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:08 pm

What do we think is Putin's end game now? To take the areas he thinks are his and not stop until that's accepted by everyone else, and to do that just bomb Ukraine until they give in? It's all just so pointless, i can't get my head around a supposed civilised European state doing this to what should be their brothers and sisters.

Thing is, if they didn't have nukes, I'm pretty sure that there would be a no-fly zone enforced by now, as all Russia are doing is attacking civilian infrastructure to try to force a Ukrainian settlement, or a huge refugee crisis in Europe

Its essentially what they think was successful in Syria

Course, because of everything you correctly say about attitudes in Europe and Ukrainian reluctance to bow to threats, then I'm not sure its a successful strategy

Course, you can never predict just how willing those in the West are to capitulate at the first sign of discomfort, but if we get through this winter, and manage to supply Ukraine with enough stuff and tech to protect their infrastructure, then Russia can mobilise as many men as they want, but they won't have the modern equipment for them, and the economy will collapse

But lets get the Ukrainians through the winter first

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:54 pm

It's being reported that 2 million Russians could be mobilised in the new year

1.5 million must be getting issued with pitchforks, and the other 500,000 with burning torches.

Jellybean wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:08 pm

What do we think is Putin's end game now? To take the areas he thinks are his and not stop until that's accepted by everyone else, and to do that just bomb Ukraine until they give in? It's all just so pointless, i can't get my head around a supposed civilised European state doing this to what should be their brothers and sisters.

Daily mail article thinks Putin will step down in the new year and be replaced by another hardliner.
They're adamant he's got terminal cancer.

Jellybean wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:08 pm

What do we think is Putin's end game now? To take the areas he thinks are his and not stop until that's accepted by everyone else, and to do that just bomb Ukraine until they give in? It's all just so pointless, i can't get my head around a supposed civilised European state doing this to what should be their brothers and sisters.

The people in charge are definitely not civilised.

I used to think that people were basically decent, and it's only the governments, or rulers that were capable of being despotic. The way Russia carries out 'war' against women and children, the way their TV audiences are fed on bile and hatred, with no argument, leads me to believe I was wrong.
There are bound to be decent people in Russia, but not enough to make a difference to this war. Putin has run out of end games, he'll just keep going to the bitter end, which may take years.
The only alternative, imo, is if WE up the anti and put an end to it quickly, but that comes at a price to us as well. So do we bleed slowly and drag this out, or bleed freely and finish it. The longer it goes on the more I'm inclined to the latter. The human race can't move forward with this hanging over our heads constantly.

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1596250847058370560

Some idea of the conditions on the front, as these Ukrainian troops relieved from Bakhmut show

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:16 pm

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1596250847058370560

Some idea of the conditions on the front, as these Ukrainian troops relieved from Bakhmut show

Terrible, the bottom right photo made me wince . Such brave people, I hope their spirit never wains, fighting to protect their homes,children, spouses etc, the senselessness of war and man's cruelty to man is personified in Putin and his ilk.

Churchill speech with Ukrainian war footage:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GissiSim/sta ... 6897105922

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:29 pm

1.5 million must be getting issued with pitchforks, and the other 500,000 with burning torches.

In recent days the number of tanks and machinery destroyed has massively reduced, often to none or very low single figures.

Either that’s because there’s some form of regrouping / reorganising going on (although that doesn’t fit with continued high levels of personnel losses)… or there’s just not enough left to destroy! In which case, hard to imagine them lasting much longer against a well equipped army.

Putin speaking to Russian soldiers mothers:

"In our country, about 30,000 people die in road accidents (per year). About the same number die from alcohol," he said. "We are all mortal, and someday all of us will leave this world. It is inevitable."

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndepend ... 3941281793

Staggering disregard for his own people’s lives!

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:25 am

In recent days the number of tanks and machinery destroyed has massively reduced, often to none or very low single figures.

Either that’s because there’s some form of regrouping / reorganising going on (although that doesn’t fit with continued high levels of personnel losses)… or there’s just not enough left to destroy! In which case, hard to imagine them lasting much longer against a well equipped army.

My guess is that it's because they are digging in. Tanks and armoured vehicles, and troops, are far easier targets on the move. Nobody appears to be moving atm.

I don't expect either side will be thinking of mounting an offensive in winter, which smacks me as a good time to try, do what the opposition least expect.

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status ... ote6w&s=19

Russian couple who've been living in Sweden for a few decades have been arrested for being spies.

This thread is quite an interesting read though...

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:28 am

Putin speaking to Russian soldiers mothers:

"In our country, about 30,000 people die in road accidents (per year). About the same number die from alcohol," he said. "We are all mortal, and someday all of us will leave this world. It is inevitable."

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndepend ... 3941281793

Staggering disregard for his own people’s lives!

Even if he doesn't care about their lives it's a ridiculous strategy in terms of the future of the country. Russia faces a massive demographic issue in terms of an ageing population, low birth rate and outward migration. A country can't sustain that. It will just decline and decline. So condemning hundreds of thousands of young men to death is utterly stupid from the point of view of future prosperity.

welsbyswife wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:43 pm

Even if he doesn't care about their lives it's a ridiculous strategy in terms of the future of the country. Russia faces a massive demographic issue in terms of an ageing population, low birth rate and outward migration. A country can't sustain that. It will just decline and decline. So condemning hundreds of thousands of young men to death is utterly stupid from the point of view of future prosperity.

The mobilisation has fallen heavily in the mainly Moslem regions of Southern Russia, where population density is high, and getting into the Russian army is seen as a fairly stable way to get up and about

If they have to heavily recruit in Russia proper (St Petersburg. Moscow) and the heavy casualties continue, then they might be issues, but Russia just isn't used to not having a "strong man"

You will see a huge increase of WWII "Great Patriotic War" propaganda as well, as the Russian look to the war even more than we do

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:28 am

Putin speaking to Russian soldiers mothers:

"In our country, about 30,000 people die in road accidents (per year). About the same number die from alcohol," he said. "We are all mortal, and someday all of us will leave this world. It is inevitable."

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndepend ... 3941281793

Staggering disregard for his own people’s lives!

He even lies about road deaths. Actual figure is 16,900 for 2019. Surprised he didn’t round it up to 100,000 just to reinforce his pathetic argument.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:07 pm

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status ... ote6w&s=19

Russian couple who've been living in Sweden for a few decades have been arrested for being spies.

This thread is quite an interesting read though...

May be worth getting a list of all those owning an apartment in that block if the powers that be haven't already.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:50 pm

The mobilisation has fallen heavily in the mainly Moslem regions of Southern Russia, where population density is high, and getting into the Russian army is seen as a fairly stable way to get up and about

If they have to heavily recruit in Russia proper (St Petersburg. Moscow) and the heavy casualties continue, then they might be issues, but Russia just isn't used to not having a "strong man"

You will see a huge increase of WWII "Great Patriotic War" propaganda as well, as the Russian look to the war even more than we do

Strong man or no strong man, the point still stands. Their population is falling and killing off young men of child producing age isn't going to help.

NOEL Reports:-
This is how trenches and hideouts at the front look like in the east. To give you an idea about the circumstances.

https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/ ... JJz-F1ZtgQ