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Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:57 am
by Lancasterclaret
Falcon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:21 am
Any idea what date they will join?
Been ratified by all NATO members so I would say that technically they are in NATO
You have to remember that they have been allied partners of NATO for a fair few years as well, so the only change I suspect is that you will see Finnish troops, ships and aircraft in NATO battlegroups throughout Europe
The fact that they felt sufficiently alarmed by Russian actions (and their history with them being less than stellar!) to do this just highlights both how much Putin overreached and NATO opinion of Russian strengths and weaknesses
Essentially Russia cannot do anything about this, and hasn't been able to do for a while, but by invading Ukraine they have told everyone that they don't care if they can't actually do stuff, they are willing to do it anyway
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:00 pm
by yTib
nothing you've ever posted on here is worth a read bluelabradonkey.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:48 pm
by Hipper
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html
Both Turkey and Hungary were obstacles to Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Sweden still isn't agreed.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:23 pm
by Lowbankclaret
KRBFC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:13 am
I don't understand what he was exposed for?
As far as I can see Sarah Ashton is exposing him for not being contracted to the Ukraine Armed Forces.
Do foreign volunteers need to be contracted? Can they not just travel over and create their own small group of fighters with other volunteers and locals?
He was doing videos of him being in combat, pretending to be an active soldier and getting people to donate hundreds of thousands pounds . When he was never in combat.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:39 pm
by Lancasterclaret
I'm loving the idea that the Ukrainian Armed forces just let volunteers run around shooting at Russians whenever they feel like it
They essentially join the AFU as regular military units
You can't run an army any other way, the Russians are proving with Wagner
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:01 pm
by KRBFC
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:23 pm
He was doing videos of him being in combat, pretending to be an active soldier and getting people to donate hundreds of thousands pounds . When he was never in combat.
but he was in combat (there's footage of that) just not as a registered soldier for the Ukrainian Army, right? I did a little reading and saw he never claimed to be apart of the official army. I wasn't sure how that works, can volunteers just form their own small group and fight without registering as an official soldier? i'm not sure how that would work logistically with coordinated military attacks but I assume Ukraine were desperate for all 18+ year old men to stay and pick up a gun.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:03 pm
by KRBFC
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:39 pm
I'm loving the idea that the Ukrainian Armed forces just let volunteers run around shooting at Russians whenever they feel like it
They essentially join the AFU as regular military units
You can't run an army any other way, the Russians are proving with Wagner
Well the Azov Battalion and Da Vinci Wolves were not part of the official armed forces at one stage, just volunteer units.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:09 pm
by NewClaret
Russian war blogger killed in explosion in St Petersburg cafe:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65155075
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:24 pm
by Lancasterclaret
KRBFC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:03 pm
Well the Azov Battalion and Da Vinci Wolves were not part of the official armed forces at one stage, just volunteer units.
They operated under the C & C of the Ukrainian Armed Forces though
I don't know what the crack was pre-2014, but the evolution of the AFU to an essentially NATO trained formation hasn't happened overnight but it has happened with great success
Russia is fighting this war with questionable tactics and certainly non-military objectives but it still had a lot of (in theory) capable troops and equipment but even so
Pretty impressive to see
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:09 pm
by AmbleClaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:10 pm
by Lancasterclaret
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/stat ... 0863395847
Finland to officially join NATO tomorrow
The complete strategic failure of Russian policy is clear for all to see
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:42 pm
by CoolClaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:26 pm
by Boss Hogg
Unless you live in Russia.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:58 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:08 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Absolutely Chine is thinking of invading Russia. It’s so weak now.
The first thing the Chinese leader did was invite the leaders of the stans countries on the borders to come to China.
They have oil and gas controlled by Russia or they defect to China .
Be an interesting year
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:13 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Guys, the same reason that Ukraine isn't going to invade Russia is exactly the same why China isn't going to attack Russia
I'm sure China would love to get their hands on the "Northern Resource Area" but they don't have to
Russia has handed China economic dominance of itself by buying heavily discounted Russian oil, while the performance and attitude of Russia in Ukraine has the stans really worried and ready to look elsewhere for support and help, and the longer the war goes on, the more reliant Russia will be on that market
its not just the NATO expansion that Russia has totally strategically lost, its the battle for influence on its southern border as well
And what have they got instead?
Some expressions of support from Africa and thats it
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:16 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:13 pm
Guys, the same reason that Ukraine isn't going to invade Russia is exactly the same why China isn't going to attack Russia
I'm sure China would love to get their hands on the "Northern Resource Area" but they don't have to
Russia has handed China economic dominance of itself by buying heavily discounted Russian oil, while the performance and attitude of Russia in Ukraine has the stans really worried and ready to look elsewhere for support and help, and the longer the war goes on, the more reliant Russia will be on that market
its not just the NATO expansion that Russia has totally strategically lost, its the battle for influence on its southern border as well
And what have they got instead?
Some expressions of support from Africa and thats it
#disagree The
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:34 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
China doesn't have to attack Russia.
They could retake that land via negotiations and agreements etc.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:54 pm
by SocialistClaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:01 pm
by yTib
a strange part of me thinks putin wanted this all along.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:10 pm
by simonclaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:27 pm
by Here's-Johnny
Id guess most World leaders are looking over there shoulder at some point not that unusual.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:55 pm
by Lip
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:21 pm
by AlargeClaret
This guy’s gonna spend his life looking over his shoulder that’s for sure.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:26 am
by Hipper
The story of the 331st Guards Parachute Regiment:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65179074
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
by Taffy on the wing
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:28 am
by Colburn_Claret
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Hopefully when it starts we'll know nothing about it. The biggest weapon is surprise.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:55 am
by Lancasterclaret
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Russia isn't going anywhere and its winter offensive with 300,000 extra troops has not achieved what they wanted/needed
Ukraine will attack when it is the perfect time (the leak of US papers from the Pentagon shows just how much they know about the Russian military situation and its all going to Ukraine) for it
End of the month?
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:58 am
by Hipper
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:36 am
It's all gone very quiet on here.........anything going on? I don't use Twitter.
I thought the Ukrainian counter offensive might have started by now.
Not much. A kind of eerie silence before a storm perhaps?
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgr ... ril-8-2023
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:51 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:23 am
by Lancasterclaret
https://twitter.com/pjasinski/status/16 ... 5820926977
British soldiers saluting Ukrainian troops who have completed their training and are heading back to the front
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:12 pm
by NewClaret
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:28 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Wathgill Camp, just a few miles from home. I hadn't realised they were training there.
Good luck, and success to all of them.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:13 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
BBC News - Ukraine war: Leak shows Western special forces on the ground
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:41 am
by Elbarad
There is a video going around supposedly taken by Russians of them cutting the head off a live Ukrainian POW. I have not seen it by choice but supposedly it is all over telegram. War is by it’s very nature brutal but this is barbarism.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:48 pm
by Goalposts
Elbarad wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:41 am
There is a video going around supposedly taken by Russians of them cutting the head off a live Ukrainian POW. I have not seen it by choice but supposedly it is all over telegram. War is by it’s very nature brutal but this is barbarism.
It’s been geoconfirmed as Wagner forces and there are two UKR soilders who they behead. Genuinely horrific on an isis scale.. its possible that as its Wagner putin may use it as leverage to arrest those Wagner involved.. but in truth that’s what happens when rapists , murderers , and total physcopaths are recruited from prisons and mental institutions…
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:12 pm
by SocialistClaret
Goalposts wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:48 pm
It’s been geoconfirmed as Wagner forces and there are two UKR soilders who they behead. Genuinely horrific on an isis scale.. its possible that as its Wagner putin may use it as leverage to arrest those Wagner involved.. but in truth that’s what happens when rapists , murderers , and total physcopaths are recruited from prisons and mental institutions…
Russia's been isis-like for a long time. Long before this war. What we saw from them though was a Christian version of isis not at war. Now they're warring we see the same ****.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:44 pm
by bfcjg
Can we keep it to the specific Ukraine invasion topic, elements attempting to divert to other areas will get it locked.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:45 pm
by Volvoclaret
Well done Mods
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:23 pm
by Lowbankclaret
I did mention this, post xmas after speaking to people with family serving.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:04 pm
by Zom Zom
I just wish we could bring this to an end. I'm not into the politics of it all, I wouldn't know where to begin, but how far does this have to go? How extreme does it need to be before the rest of the world says 'That's enough'?
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:07 pm
by Vino blanco
Zom Zom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:04 pm
I just wish we could bring this to an end. I'm not into the politics of it all, I wouldn't know where to begin, but how far does this have to go? How extreme does it need to be before the rest of the world says 'That's enough'?
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Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:32 pm
by bfcjg
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/border-panic- ... 37574.html
I should imagine the border is very porous in places.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:54 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Zom Zom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:04 pm
I just wish we could bring this to an end. I'm not into the politics of it all, I wouldn't know where to begin, but how far does this have to go? How extreme does it need to be before the rest of the world says 'That's enough'?
Quite liking the idea that someone can tell Putin what to do
Of course it should end right now, but that would involve Russia admitting that it can't win, or Ukraine surrendering and we are all back to square one waiting for Russia to attack someone else
Neither look likely at the moment
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 pm
by Pendle Bella
The war in Ukraine was planned by the United States/Uk/Nato well before any Russian boot stepped over the border in 2022!
Please tell what country Russia are planning to pop into next.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:24 pm
by ClaretLoup
Just to update you on a bit of history . Russian boots stepped over the border in 2014 when they invaded Crimea and assisted separatist movements in Eastern Ukraine.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:38 pm
by box_of_frogs
I see the Russian bot is back.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:26 am
by SocialistClaret
It's amazing how everything Russia does is always America's fault. Russia amassed over a hundred thousand troops on Ukraine's border throughout the 2021-22 winter and then launched an invasion in Feb 2022 all because of the United States. They annexed Crimea and attempted to assassinate at least two of Ukraine's leaders all because the United States made them do it.
Maybe it's all mind control and Putin is secretly being controlled by the CIA, and probably Israel somehow. It's always the jews somehow too, right Bella? They did 9/11 too you know. And they got us relegated last year. Probably. I dunno, ask Pendle Bella. They'll explain.
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:14 am
by Enola Gay
Pendle Bella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 pm
The war in Ukraine was planned by the United States/Uk/Nato well before any Russian boot stepped over the border in 2022!
Please tell what country Russia are planning to pop into next.
So what you're really saying is... Russia are f******g stupid enough to fall for anyone else's sh*t?
на хуй, дурак...
Re: Russia Invades
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:23 am
by Robbie_painter
Pendle Bella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 pm
The war in Ukraine was planned by the United States/Uk/Nato well before any Russian boot stepped over the border in 2022!
Please tell what country Russia are planning to pop into next.
Literally skipped to the last page on this thread and happened upon this little gem.It’s unreal to think people actually think this ****.
