Abramovich selling Chelsea!

[TonbridgeClaret]

Will that affect their players on Saturday?

[conyoviejo]

No !

[clarethomer]

Will the assets just not get frozen upon sale?

Interesting to see who would be able to take over and maintain the financial commitment to maintain what Abramovich has had to put in over the years.

[BurnleyFC]

Is Abramovich actually a mate of Putin’s as has been widely mooted?

[NewClaret]

Net proceeds to go to a charity that will benefit victims of Ukrainian war and long-term recovery. £1.5bn loans written off.

Amazing gesture for Ukrain and Chelsea, if true.

Putin further isolated.

[clarethomer]

Net proceeds to go to a charity that will benefit victims of Ukrainian war and long-term recovery. £1.5bn loans written off.

Amazing gesture for Ukrain and Chelsea, if true.

Putin further isolated.

Just read that as it seems one way of not being caught up in assets being frozen and demonstrating you are not close to Putin.

[tarkys_ears]

Repairations indeed

Probably planning his move as next president of Russia

Personally I'd tell him to stick it up his arse, he's been a Putin enabler for decades

[Lancasterclaret]

Huge caveat here

"All victims of war in Ukraine"

That could mean anything, and anybody who is a victim, including Russian oligarchs who have to sell their ill gotten gains at huge losses

[NewClaret]

Yeah I did think that. And the Russian military will need rebuilding!

[Dark Cloud]

As a Russian, you don't get to where he's got in life and remain there without being a close friend of Putin.

[jos]

So what he ‘should’ have done was donate Chelsea FC to ALK Capital, so they become a feeder club to the Clarets.

Obviously!

[Cirrus_Minor]

According to Wikipedia he personally recommended to then president Yeltsin that Putin take over as president. Probably explains the extraordinary wealth. Abramovic probably now sees that has his Faustian moment in his life.

[Roosterbooster]

Does the £1.5bn write off affect FFP? Seems slightly bizarre if not

[IanMcL]

Net proceeds to go to a charity that will benefit victims of Ukrainian war and long-term recovery. £1.5bn loans written off.

Amazing gesture for Ukrain and Chelsea, if true.

Putin further isolated.

Good for him.

[Jakubclaret]

A very honourable gesture if he’s true to his word.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Does the £1.5bn write off affect FFP? Seems slightly bizarre if not

That is indeed a very good question

[DCWat]

A very honourable gesture if he’s true to his word.

Without any condemnation of Putin’s actions.

[taio]

Does the £1.5bn write off affect FFP? Seems slightly bizarre if not

Can't see how it could be. Surely can just be dealt with as part of the sale and acquisition.

[Jakubclaret]

Without any condemnation of Putin’s actions.

If he’s doing more good than bad that’s good if it’s the other way around that’s bad. That money if allocated correctly will go far.

[Billy Balfour]

Honourable gesture? This is a guy who sucks up and enables a despot who jails people for up to 15 years for daring to criticise him, and they are the lucky ones. Others fall out of windows or are poisoned. And this is before we even get to the current events. Honourable gesture, my arse.

[jos]

Without any condemnation of Putin’s actions.

My 2 cents,

I was led to understand that Obramovich, was assisting in the negotiations between the two factions, it’s difficult to achieve that if you are publicly denouncing one side.

[TheFamilyCat]

A very honourable gesture if he’s true to his word.

Is he though? I won't believe him until he goes on Talksport with Simon Jordan.

[RVclaret]

Is he though? I won't believe him until he goes on Talksport with Simon Jordan.

Agree. If he’s not on talk sport in the morning then this is all a sham.

[Jakubclaret]

Is he though? I won't believe him until he goes on Talksport with Simon Jordan.

He’s doing a lot more than you dispensing your pearls of wisdom on a clarets forum, leave the sniping aside & see a good act for what it is, he didn’t have to pledge that money if that money helps just 1 person it makes a difference.

[DCWat]

My 2 cents,

I was led to understand that Obramovich, was assisting in the negotiations between the two factions, it’s difficult to achieve that if you are publicly denouncing one side.

Where did you read that, Jos?

[Buxtonclaret]

Just been sent this.

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2022/ ... nonetheles

[tiger76]

The phrase getting out well he can springs to my mind, and on a purely football basis could recent events see Chelsea being replaced by Newcastle in the big 6.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Is he though? I won't believe him until he goes on Talksport with Simon Jordan.

Jordan and White both have the week off, you'll need to wait until Monday next week.

[DCWat]

Jordan and White both have the week off, you'll need to wait until Monday next week.

Who have they got on instead to whip up a frenzy, repeat the same thing numerous times and not forgetting, plenty of White’s “I’ve met him, I know him, I’ve been there, I’ve done that” self appreciating guff.

[Billy Balfour]

It sure is the go-to radio station for the UTC intellectuals.

[Garnerssoap]

Lol they’re ******

[Spiral]

You're gullible beyond belief if you believe this is an act coming from a place of honour or decency. It's so obvious why he's doing this that the question "why sell now?" needs not asking. Chelsea FC has always been his political insurance policy. And look, it's worked, because HM Government seizing Chelsea is far more difficult politically than seizing yachts and sanctioning Russian organisations. The sale, the donation, and the debt write off are just the premiums these people pay for their political insurance policies. Let's not pretend he's benevolence incarnate.

[Boss Hogg]

Selling quickly perhaps before his affairs are looked into or assets are frozen. It’s a shame the money that funded that club wasn’t looked into more thoroughly at the time. It’s a snippet compared to his other wealth which was probably achieved by the same means.

[ElectroClaret]

Anyone know who's in the frame to buy it?

[tiger76]

Without any condemnation of Putin’s actions.

Not directly no, but I never picked up on this at first, the very fact he referred to the events in Ukraine as a war is telling in itself.

Mind you it's amazing that it takes the threatening of the oligarchs ill gotten gains to gain their attention, and finally get them speaking out against the Putin regime, shows it's all about the wealth with these guys.

[tiger76]

Anyone know who's in the frame to buy it?

A couple of billionaires been mentioned.

Why were you thinking of making an offer.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Who have they got on instead to whip up a frenzy, repeat the same thing numerous times and not forgetting, plenty of White’s “I’ve met him, I know him, I’ve been there, I’ve done that” self appreciating guff.

Not sure tbh, I've not been listening, mainly 5live because of their Ukraine coverage.

[ElectroClaret]

A couple of billionaires been mentioned.

Why were you thinking of making an offer.

Petty cash, tiger.

[jos]

Where did you read that, Jos?

I read and heard that much stuff it’s hard to recall where it came from but I think it was from a tv news team.

Just done a quick Google and there’s several sources.

[BurnleyFC]

His daughter has publicly condemned Putin and I would imagine she wouldn’t have been allowed to do that without her dad’s permission.

[jurek]

The 1.5b plus whatever he gets for selling Chelsea
will still leave him one of the richest people on the planet I suspect.
Can't recall now but I think his overall wealth was estimated at well over 10bn
and that was a number of years ago.

He amongst others stripped Russia of a lot of its wealth even though.I believe
he had to borrow a lot of the money to buy whatever he bought.
And I'm also led to believe British banks were involved in helping him out.
That might explain why he invested in Chelsea and came to live here.

Setting up a fund to help the victims of the war in Ukraine might sound
commendable but I feel he'd be better off coming out against Putin and his
insane war.

[taio]

The 1.5b plus whatever he gets for selling Chelsea
will still leave him one of the richest people on the planet I suspect.
Can't recall now but I think his overall wealth was estimated at well over 10bn
and that was a number of years ago.

He amongst others stripped Russia of a lot of its wealth even though.I believe
he had to borrow a lot of the money to buy whatever he bought.
And I'm also led to believe British banks were involved in helping him out.
That might explain why he invested in Chelsea and came to live here.

Setting up a fund to help the victims of the war in Ukraine might sound
commendable but I feel he'd be better off coming out against Putin and his
insane war.

Doubt he'd be in the top 50

[Jakubclaret]

You're gullible beyond belief if you believe this is an act coming from a place of honour or decency. It's so obvious why he's doing this that the question "why sell now?" needs not asking. Chelsea FC has always been his political insurance policy. And look, it's worked, because HM Government seizing Chelsea is far more difficult politically than seizing yachts and sanctioning Russian organisations. The sale, the donation, and the debt write off are just the premiums these people pay for their political insurance policies. Let's not pretend he's benevolence incarnate.

Maybe so but at the end of day it makes no difference whatever the reasons whether honourable or sinister the final outcome will be vulnerable & needy people benefitting, why some people seem to be finding fault with this is absolutely astonishing.

[Roosterbooster]

Can't see how it could be. Surely can just be dealt with as part of the sale and acquisition.

In which case could a company essentially sell a club to itself (via a subsidiary branch or something similar) and just write off all the debts??

[RalphCoatesComb]

I'll take my Abramovich with a pinch of salt until it's proved that he is the new St Nicholas.

[Spiral]

Maybe so but at the end of day it makes no difference whatever the reasons whether honourable or sinister the final outcome will be vulnerable & needy people benefitting, why some people seem to be finding fault with this is absolutely astonishing.

Benefactions borne of ill-gotten gains. I'm sure the Ukrainians will care not a jot where the money comes from, nor should they, but it's ridiculous to lionise a man with Abramovich's past with terms like 'honourable'. Cynical, politically convenient, sure, even proven to be rather clever if your attitude toward this is a reflection of the wider public's (I suspect it's not). He's simply manoeuvring and trying to cling on to his reputation, such as it is. With the worst of this conflict still to come, Abramovich knows there's a greater chance than not he will eventually have his foreign assets seized, so he's liquidating a huge one while there's a still shred of grace from HM Govt in the hope he isn't thrown on Putin's funerary pyre when the pressure eventually becomes too much for Boris Johnson, who will be forced to demonstrate in ways even a simpleton would understand that he has no conflicts of interest in administering his duties as PM, and will thus feel inclined to distance himself from the slightest whiff of a connection to Russian money by publicly going after the most known of all the Russian oligarchs to have enjoyed the safety and luxury of Londongrad. Honour has nothing to do with it.

How can a man who denies ties to Putin also presume his value as a peace broker? I have no ties to Putin. Can I be a peace broker, too? Everyone can see the contradiction, but no matter, he's read the room, noticed that what everyone wants more than anything is an end to the fighting, and has realised that being seen to advocate peace and reconciliation while helping the victims of the war provides him with more political protection than sitting around waiting to be ostracised alongside Putin. It is however notable that he has not condemned the aggressor. Still wants to keep that door open, no doubt. It's theatre. Did he play-act as peacekeeper during the Second Chechen War? The Russo-Georgian War? The invasion of Crimea? The conflict in the Donbass which has been happening for years? Nope. Because the political situation was cooler back then, not a screaming pressure-cooker like it is today. Had Abramovich not elevated Putin in the first place the victims of the war in Ukraine might not be in the position of needing his alms. He's an inveterate opportunist. That characteristic is a necessity for people who 'work' their way up in the way he has.

[Jakubclaret]

Benefactions borne of ill-gotten gains. I'm sure the Ukrainians will care not a jot where the money comes from, nor should they, but it's ridiculous to lionise a man with Abramovich's past with terms like 'honourable'. Cynical, politically convenient, sure, even proven to be rather clever if your attitude toward this is a reflection of the wider public's (I suspect it's not). He's simply manoeuvring and trying to cling on to his reputation, such as it is. With the worst of this conflict still to come, Abramovich knows there's a greater chance than not he will eventually have his foreign assets seized, so he's liquidating a huge one while there's a still shred of grace from HM Govt in the hope he isn't thrown on Putin's funerary pyre when the pressure eventually becomes too much for Boris Johnson, who will be forced to demonstrate in ways even a simpleton would understand that he has no conflicts of interest in administering his duties as PM, and will thus feel inclined to distance himself from the slightest whiff of a connection to Russian money by publicly going after the most known of all the Russian oligarchs to have enjoyed the safety and luxury of Londongrad. Honour has nothing to do with it.

How can a man who denies ties to Putin also presume his value as a peace broker? I have no ties to Putin. Can I be a peace broker, too? Everyone can see the contradiction, but no matter, he's read the room, noticed that what everyone wants more than anything is an end to the fighting, and has realised that being seen to advocate peace and reconciliation while helping the victims of the war provides him with more political protection than sitting around waiting to be ostracised alongside Putin. It is however notable that he has not condemned the aggressor. Still wants to keep that door open, no doubt. It's theatre. Did he play-act as peacekeeper during the Second Chechen War? The Russo-Georgian War? The invasion of Crimea? The conflict in the Donbass which has been happening for years? Nope. Because the political situation was cooler back then, not a screaming pressure-cooker like it is today. Had Abramovich not elevated Putin in the first place the victims of the war in Ukraine might not be in the position of needing his alms. He's an inveterate opportunist. That characteristic is a necessity for people who 'work' their way up in the way he has.

Not interested in the politics of all that, you think far too deep & you’ll give yourself migraines in later life, the simple facts are if he comes good on his word/promise it will benefit the vulnerable people who have been affected in this war that’s more important than anything else at a basic level.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

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[timshorts]

His daughter has publicly condemned Putin and I would imagine she wouldn’t have been allowed to do that without her dad’s permission.

This.

Much that I'd like to see Chelsea go back to what they were late 80's early 90's, in this particular conflict I have the feeling that the abramovic family are on the right side of the fence.

[JohnMac]

Victims of this conflict will surely include those Russian citizens in the Dombass region.

I just can't believe it means Ukranian citizens but would ultimately hope to be proved wrong.

Benefitting them all is morally the right thing.